Barca4Life
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+x+xIts a shame isn't? Once touted as the next big thing in Aus football and fair enough too given how he got into the World Cup squad via he's aleague form and probably was the Socceroos most dangerous attacking player we got during those games. It just shows how quickly things can change in football, once you feel your on top of the world the next you are back down to the basement trying to get out. Clearly the ACL injury didnt help but I do have to wonder what if he made a better move after the World Cup? Its catch 22 but he could have joined JVS at PEC Zwolle who knew him from Melbourne City or could have joined a club where they would have played younger players like him, clearly the Celtic move was a step too far? And FC Utrecht where it seemed it looked like a great move to play but it hasn't eventuated like how we wanted. To be fair he's still young at 22 years old but like the previous wonder kids who have been hyped up like Patafta, De Silva, Nathan Burns etc I think you can all but end the hype train for this lad. (But I hope im wrong and he gets back to where we knew he can become but ill remain doubtful from now on in what he can achieve at a higher level). It also just shows never rely on 1 or 2 players to take us to the promise land of football, its almost unsustainable and the risk is what we have witnessed with anyone who was destined as the next great hope that I could fall over very quickly. Build a generation of players and not one you can rely on as this has reflected on the dysfunctional youth system which has been in place for almost 15 years. 22 is not seen as young in any other country (other than aus). Especially in Europe. So it could be teams are expecting more from him given his age, but his limited play time has stagnated this development compared to his peers. A loan to Girona may help, but i am assuming that City want to loan him to a club with the option to buy in order to make some money back. The Nordic leagues may be a good option for him To be honest im not sure if he has enough leverage now compared to 2 years ago when it comes to options, if the lad couldn't play for FC Utrecht who are known to developing young talent then its going to be hard just to walk into another league as a loanee. And expect him to walk into a club in Spain like Girona? Patrick Roberts a former loanee from Man City couldn't get enough game time so how do we expect Daniel to get game time there? I can see him coming back to the aleague and the reality is this won't harm him as he badly needs to get his confidence back through regular game time.
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+xA return worked wonders for Ikon until disaster struck. It's certainly more the injury than skill. His confidence would be down. I'd prefer young Australians to try for the A League instead. Risdon and Grant have turned into very good players. Imagine Gersbach with 4 full A League seasons now. He be better than where he is now but to what extent? A return to the A League worked wonders for Mooy as well. Arzani and Gerbach both need to return to the A league, if all goes well upon their A League return they are both still young enough to be able to return to Europe.
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+x+xCouldn't even get a go in Dutch 2nd division ffs. Wtf is going on with this kid For a start, FC Utrecht are in the top flight. Also, the article does mention that club had held onto Gyrano Kerk who Arzani couldn't overtake in the pecking order. Not sure if FC Utrecht were thinking they might lose this other winger and Arzani was brought in as a back up... but it's obviously worked out to not be the ideal option.
Thing is, he just needs game time, perhaps a stint in the A-League will get that confidence back. Sure FC Utrecht are in the top flight but Jong FC Utrecht (U21s/reseeves) who Daniel has played a few times for this season and was playing 90 minutes for just a month ago suddenly stopped being picked. Was he injured or was he just dropped? Who knows
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CS
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+x+x+xIts a shame isn't? Once touted as the next big thing in Aus football and fair enough too given how he got into the World Cup squad via he's aleague form and probably was the Socceroos most dangerous attacking player we got during those games. It just shows how quickly things can change in football, once you feel your on top of the world the next you are back down to the basement trying to get out. Clearly the ACL injury didnt help but I do have to wonder what if he made a better move after the World Cup? Its catch 22 but he could have joined JVS at PEC Zwolle who knew him from Melbourne City or could have joined a club where they would have played younger players like him, clearly the Celtic move was a step too far? And FC Utrecht where it seemed it looked like a great move to play but it hasn't eventuated like how we wanted. To be fair he's still young at 22 years old but like the previous wonder kids who have been hyped up like Patafta, De Silva, Nathan Burns etc I think you can all but end the hype train for this lad. (But I hope im wrong and he gets back to where we knew he can become but ill remain doubtful from now on in what he can achieve at a higher level). It also just shows never rely on 1 or 2 players to take us to the promise land of football, its almost unsustainable and the risk is what we have witnessed with anyone who was destined as the next great hope that I could fall over very quickly. Build a generation of players and not one you can rely on as this has reflected on the dysfunctional youth system which has been in place for almost 15 years. 22 is not seen as young in any other country (other than aus). Especially in Europe. So it could be teams are expecting more from him given his age, but his limited play time has stagnated this development compared to his peers. A loan to Girona may help, but i am assuming that City want to loan him to a club with the option to buy in order to make some money back. The Nordic leagues may be a good option for him To be honest im not sure if he has enough leverage now compared to 2 years ago when it comes to options, if the lad couldn't play for FC Utrecht who are known to developing young talent then its going to be hard just to walk into another league as a loanee. And expect him to walk into a club in Spain like Girona? Patrick Roberts a former loanee from Man City couldn't get enough game time so how do we expect Daniel to get game time there? I can see him coming back to the aleague and the reality is this won't harm him as he badly needs to get his confidence back through regular game time. City will let him go in June. He's not a bright young thing any more. Sadly, he's just another player who didn't quite cut it. The ACL did him in. Hope he comes back to City. He isn't a lost cause yet, but he MUST be playing.
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+x+x+xIts a shame isn't? Once touted as the next big thing in Aus football and fair enough too given how he got into the World Cup squad via he's aleague form and probably was the Socceroos most dangerous attacking player we got during those games. It just shows how quickly things can change in football, once you feel your on top of the world the next you are back down to the basement trying to get out. Clearly the ACL injury didnt help but I do have to wonder what if he made a better move after the World Cup? Its catch 22 but he could have joined JVS at PEC Zwolle who knew him from Melbourne City or could have joined a club where they would have played younger players like him, clearly the Celtic move was a step too far? And FC Utrecht where it seemed it looked like a great move to play but it hasn't eventuated like how we wanted. To be fair he's still young at 22 years old but like the previous wonder kids who have been hyped up like Patafta, De Silva, Nathan Burns etc I think you can all but end the hype train for this lad. (But I hope im wrong and he gets back to where we knew he can become but ill remain doubtful from now on in what he can achieve at a higher level). It also just shows never rely on 1 or 2 players to take us to the promise land of football, its almost unsustainable and the risk is what we have witnessed with anyone who was destined as the next great hope that I could fall over very quickly. Build a generation of players and not one you can rely on as this has reflected on the dysfunctional youth system which has been in place for almost 15 years. 22 is not seen as young in any other country (other than aus). Especially in Europe. So it could be teams are expecting more from him given his age, but his limited play time has stagnated this development compared to his peers. A loan to Girona may help, but i am assuming that City want to loan him to a club with the option to buy in order to make some money back. The Nordic leagues may be a good option for him To be honest im not sure if he has enough leverage now compared to 2 years ago when it comes to options, if the lad couldn't play for FC Utrecht who are known to developing young talent then its going to be hard just to walk into another league as a loanee. And expect him to walk into a club in Spain like Girona? Patrick Roberts a former loanee from Man City couldn't get enough game time so how do we expect Daniel to get game time there? I can see him coming back to the aleague and the reality is this won't harm him as he badly needs to get his confidence back through regular game time. Their is a good reason why Roberts didn't get much game time, he is S H I T E.
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I just cant understand the mentality... Mooy has shown it can be done... if you dominate in the a-league you will get a move to a club that wants you. But you have to fucking DOMINATE... Arzani needs 20+ goals for a season or two and he will get a good move..
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Won't happen but he is probably better off staying on the radar in England, maybe dropping to HK's Oldham or even lower in just to get the guaranteed minutes.... he should take his mate Panos Armenakas while he is at it.
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+xI just cant understand the mentality... Mooy has shown it can be done... if you dominate in the a-league you will get a move to a club that wants you. But you have to fucking DOMINATE... Arzani needs 20+ goals for a season or two and he will get a good move.. Agree
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Assuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee?
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+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere.
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+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. He would struggle to get game time in J1 at present. plenty of good technical players in japan. He needs to go somewhere and play. Even if it means dropping down in league level.
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+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia".
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+xWon't happen but he is probably better off staying on the radar in England, maybe dropping to HK's Oldham or even lower in just to get the guaranteed minutes.... he should take his mate Panos Armenakas while he is at it. At least Armenakas is getting a few minutes here and there for a decent team in a decent league (Belgium), he could still come good.
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CS
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If you look across Europe, the list of players around Azarni's age excelling at the very highest level makes depressing reading in terms of where Daniel's career stands.
He left the A League too soon, went to a club so wrong for him it was bad joke, then was out for almost 2 years with his ACL. Just a cascade of poor judgement and disastrous luck, but the end result remains.
He needs to come home and be happy and play every week. Mooy has shown it can work and he was a lot older than Daniel.
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CS
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+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Ange is notably misanthropic with an unhealthy martyr complex. He made a mess of the Roos post 2015 Asian Cup and then cut and ran for the money when disastrous performances were at the edge of seriously damaging his post NT career. He wasn't hounded out. That's simply self justification for a self interested decision that left his players feeling betrayed - which they were. If you could see Ange's ego, it would loom over him like a dark colossus, shadowing his every step.
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+x+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Ange is notably misanthropic with an unhealthy martyr complex. He made a mess of the Roos post 2015 Asian Cup and then cut and ran for the money when disastrous performances were at the edge of seriously damaging his post NT career. He wasn't hounded out. That's simply self justification for a self interested decision that left his players feeling betrayed - which they were. If you could see Ange's ego, it would loom over him like a dark colossus, shadowing his every step. It must suck to be so bitter.
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+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Aha do all Greeks have persecution complexes??? He QUIT and abandoned his players on the eve of a world cup for a secure career move. Don't let him rewrite the history. Even if he was frustrated and unhappy with the FFA and their "vision" (rightfully so, no doubt) he could have stayed loyal to his team for another month and seen the job he started through.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Aha do all Greeks have persecution complexes??? He QUIT and abandoned his players on the eve of a world cup for a secure career move. Don't let him rewrite the history. Even if he was frustrated and unhappy with the FFA and their "vision" (rightfully so, no doubt) he could have stayed loyal to his team for another month and seen the job he started through. Aha, so he is Greek now but in 2015 he was our dinkie die Aussie hero? ... I love this country sometimes.... Like I said I dont know the guy but I do empathise with how he was treated. Also my point then stands, if he is "the Greek" why would he then want to help out a young up an coming *cough cough* Aussie?
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charlied
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Ange is notably misanthropic with an unhealthy martyr complex. He made a mess of the Roos post 2015 Asian Cup and then cut and ran for the money when disastrous performances were at the edge of seriously damaging his post NT career. He wasn't hounded out. That's simply self justification for a self interested decision that left his players feeling betrayed - which they were. If you could see Ange's ego, it would loom over him like a dark colossus, shadowing his every step. It must suck to be so bitter. I don't understand your comment. I'm not bitter about anything. These were simply my observations. I was at every Suncorp match when AP coached Brisbane. I have great admiration for the man. But that is doesn't change my view of his NT exit.
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charlied
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Aha do all Greeks have persecution complexes??? He QUIT and abandoned his players on the eve of a world cup for a secure career move. Don't let him rewrite the history. Even if he was frustrated and unhappy with the FFA and their "vision" (rightfully so, no doubt) he could have stayed loyal to his team for another month and seen the job he started through. Aha, so he is Greek now but in 2015 he was our dinkie die Aussie hero? ... I love this country sometimes.... Like I said I dont know the guy but I do empathise with how he was treated. Also my point then stands, if he is "the Greek" why would he then want to help out a young up an coming *cough cough* Aussie? And yeah I'm one and the same as CS. For some reason I can't gets CS to work on my phone, only on my computer.
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What about Ruiz-Diaz and Silvera then? This is getting too much attention.
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+xIf you look across Europe, the list of players around Azarni's age excelling at the very highest level makes depressing reading in terms of where Daniel's career stands. He left the A League too soon, went to a club so wrong for him it was bad joke, then was out for almost 2 years with his ACL. Just a cascade of poor judgement and disastrous luck, but the end result remains. He needs to come home and be happy and play every week. Mooy has shown it can work and he was a lot older than Daniel. What is really disheartening is seeing so many young asian players coming through.. we cant seem to find one aussie, Souttar is the only shining light we have.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Aha do all Greeks have persecution complexes??? He QUIT and abandoned his players on the eve of a world cup for a secure career move. Don't let him rewrite the history. Even if he was frustrated and unhappy with the FFA and their "vision" (rightfully so, no doubt) he could have stayed loyal to his team for another month and seen the job he started through. Aha, so he is Greek now but in 2015 he was our dinkie die Aussie hero? ... I love this country sometimes.... Like I said I dont know the guy but I do empathise with how he was treated. Also my point then stands, if he is "the Greek" why would he then want to help out a young up an coming *cough cough* Aussie? And yeah I'm one and the same as CS. For some reason I can't gets CS to work on my phone, only on my computer. ???? OK
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAssuming Ange is still there, this is probably the best option. Good shout. Any reason to think Ange would give Arzani a preference against any other CFG loanee? I think Ange genuinely has the best interests of Australian football at heart, but yes he'd also prioritise the job he's being paid to do. Either way, at least he'd be better off sitting on the bench under the tutelage of Ange than sitting on the bench elsewhere. I dont know Angie well personally, only met him a few times but others that do tell me he feels pretty jaded with how he was "hounded out of Australia". Aha do all Greeks have persecution complexes??? He QUIT and abandoned his players on the eve of a world cup for a secure career move. Don't let him rewrite the history. Even if he was frustrated and unhappy with the FFA and their "vision" (rightfully so, no doubt) he could have stayed loyal to his team for another month and seen the job he started through. Aha, so he is Greek now but in 2015 he was our dinkie die Aussie hero? ... I love this country sometimes.... Like I said I dont know the guy but I do empathise with how he was treated. Also my point then stands, if he is "the Greek" why would he then want to help out a young up an coming *cough cough* Aussie? And yeah I'm one and the same as CS. For some reason I can't gets CS to work on my phone, only on my computer. ???? OK Yeah I should rationalise.
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FC Utrecht coach, René Hake when asked if Daniel Arzani could leave the club this month 🗣️: "That could happen. It's clear that he doesn't meet our expectations."
Far out, that’s savage.
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+xFC Utrecht coach, René Hake when asked if Daniel Arzani could leave the club this month 🗣️: "That could happen. It's clear that he doesn't meet our expectations."
Far out, that’s savage. Thanks for info 👍 I guess a coach with 36% win rate in 75 games at FC Twente must know better than former coach Van den Brom who played Arzani in 4 games before he left for Belgium?? Guess Hake doesn’t think much of Bert either
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It's clear this fucker has no idea. He hasn't been given any opportunity since Hake took over as Manager
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