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+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Another reason to have a longer season (30 or more league games plus others, e.g., cup games) rather than the shortest season in world football that we have now.
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+x+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Another reason to have a longer season (30 or more league games plus others, e.g., cup games) rather than the shortest season in world football that we have now. And Mooy, that Jaymz mentions, had a difficult job when he first went to Europe as he wasn't robust enough to handle the extended amount of games. Time we got moving on this front. Bring in a minimum of 4 new teams to the A League in as short a time frame as possible.
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+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Fair points Jaymz. It shows how important is the match minutes needed especially around 17 to 23, the more larger the numbers the more likely the players who be better developed for the touch challenges of European football. It makes the 'peformance gap' ever more important and needs to be addressed more than ever before. McGree is an interesting one and he's got those match minutes in his belt too, I do agree maybe Birmingham City maybe doesnt suit him entirely and given they are in a relegation battle they dont seem to trust him. I wonder if Adelaide made the right move for him or did they just try to milk as much money possible as well? Lets see what happens if he stays in England or he goes to the MLS and has a better time over there.
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+x+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Fair points Jaymz. It shows how important is the match minutes needed especially around 17 to 23, the more larger the numbers the more likely the players who be better developed for the touch challenges of European football. It makes the 'peformance gap' ever more important and needs to be addressed more than ever before. McGree is an interesting one and he's got those match minutes in his belt too, I do agree maybe Birmingham City maybe doesnt suit him entirely and given they are in a relegation battle they dont seem to trust him. I wonder if Adelaide made the right move for him or did they just try to milk as much money possible as well? Lets see what happens if he stays in England or he goes to the MLS and has a better time over there. Covid may be a god send for us in this regard because so many young players are getting minutes. You would hope with this extended run they become seen as regular first team players. It will just be on them to not leave too early
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+x+x+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Fair points Jaymz. It shows how important is the match minutes needed especially around 17 to 23, the more larger the numbers the more likely the players who be better developed for the touch challenges of European football. It makes the 'peformance gap' ever more important and needs to be addressed more than ever before. McGree is an interesting one and he's got those match minutes in his belt too, I do agree maybe Birmingham City maybe doesnt suit him entirely and given they are in a relegation battle they dont seem to trust him. I wonder if Adelaide made the right move for him or did they just try to milk as much money possible as well? Lets see what happens if he stays in England or he goes to the MLS and has a better time over there. Covid may be a god send for us in this regard because so many young players are getting minutes. You would hope with this extended run they become seen as regular first team players. It will just be on them to not leave too early Let’s hope this continues and not just become a one off event. Its been refreshing to see.
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Full 90 for Ouzoundinis in a 2-1 loss to Tottenham U23.
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Thomas with a good save at 4:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lbiD-QsYl0
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+xFull 90 for Ouzoundinis in a 2-1 loss to Tottenham U23. Full game for Watts in a 2-2 draw with Arsenal U23, wearing number 10. Good news. You’d love ouzinidis to kick on wouldn’t you. He could be big for us in the future
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+x+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Fair points Jaymz. It shows how important is the match minutes needed especially around 17 to 23, the more larger the numbers the more likely the players who be better developed for the touch challenges of European football. It makes the 'peformance gap' ever more important and needs to be addressed more than ever before. McGree is an interesting one and he's got those match minutes in his belt too, I do agree maybe Birmingham City maybe doesnt suit him entirely and given they are in a relegation battle they dont seem to trust him. I wonder if Adelaide made the right move for him or did they just try to milk as much money possible as well? Lets see what happens if he stays in England or he goes to the MLS and has a better time over there. Did you ever think that, maybe, he's only good enough for the aleague?
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+x+x+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Fair points Jaymz. It shows how important is the match minutes needed especially around 17 to 23, the more larger the numbers the more likely the players who be better developed for the touch challenges of European football. It makes the 'peformance gap' ever more important and needs to be addressed more than ever before. McGree is an interesting one and he's got those match minutes in his belt too, I do agree maybe Birmingham City maybe doesnt suit him entirely and given they are in a relegation battle they dont seem to trust him. I wonder if Adelaide made the right move for him or did they just try to milk as much money possible as well? Lets see what happens if he stays in England or he goes to the MLS and has a better time over there. Covid may be a god send for us in this regard because so many young players are getting minutes. You would hope with this extended run they become seen as regular first team players. It will just be on them to not leave too early No they won't. When the cap goes up they go down or if there lucky on the bench.
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Langerak starting in Japan, no sign of Deng.
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+x+x+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Fair points Jaymz. It shows how important is the match minutes needed especially around 17 to 23, the more larger the numbers the more likely the players who be better developed for the touch challenges of European football. It makes the 'peformance gap' ever more important and needs to be addressed more than ever before. McGree is an interesting one and he's got those match minutes in his belt too, I do agree maybe Birmingham City maybe doesnt suit him entirely and given they are in a relegation battle they dont seem to trust him. I wonder if Adelaide made the right move for him or did they just try to milk as much money possible as well? Lets see what happens if he stays in England or he goes to the MLS and has a better time over there. Did you ever think that, maybe, he's only good enough for the aleague? Or maybe, you're just a shit stirrer looking for some attention?
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Delbridge bench
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Brought on very late to hang onto the lead. Grant picked up an injury, not in the Pohang squad.
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Mcgree isn’t even making the bench now
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+xMcgree isn’t even making the bench now He's a loan player. They barely care he's on their books. It's unfortunate but so are Birmingham City. Another loss.
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+x+xMcgree isn’t even making the bench now He's a loan player. They barely care he's on their books. It's unfortunate but so are Birmingham City. Another loss. Yep. As said above when he’s played he’s done well so who knows. I don’t believe he’s not good enough I believe he hasn’t been given a chance. Ah well, aussies get treated poorly overseas, our boys need to deal with it
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they also have Halilović who cant even get a run... who told him to even go there on loan of all things? they full of young midfielders. Bizarre advice. I'm guessing Tepper has connections to Birmingham City?
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Yokohama 3-3 Hiroshima Clean sheet and win for Langerak yesterday
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+x+x+x+xArzani, McGree two of our recent talents to have come through the aleague as our best prospects and both at the moment are not playing for their clubs. I know they quite young and can still come good once they find a decent envionment to flourish in, but ill ask this question has the aleague done a good enough job preparing these guys for the tough environment for Europe or is it players themselves that haven't gotten the breaks they need? Lets hope they come through because we have seen with former young prospects who have broke though at aleague level and once we have seen them struggle in Europe they come back home, and at least they have established themselves as good aleague players but unfortunately they are not good enough for European football especially at the bigger leagues. Riley Mcgree and Daniel Arzani are 22, it is not young. Especially in Europe. So i think the reason for the struggle with a lot of our players is in Aus these players are considered young and given slack when their performances arent up to scratch where as in Europe they are considered as mature so expected to play at peak level and not make mistakes. When they do they get dropped. We as a league need to start considering 17-19 as young and to instil this mentality in players and better prepare them for overseas. Also Arzani whilst talented when he left, only played 24 games at a league level so the league had no prepared him for Europe because he was not here long enough (which is common with Aussie players sadly). Mcgree has only played 79 A league games which is also on the lower end. I think their was a study done where players who went overseas with 100 + A league games did better overseas than those with less. Mooy for example played 102 games in the a league so basically a full extra season (and didnt have it broken up by a euro stint) Another reason to have a longer season (30 or more league games plus others, e.g., cup games) rather than the shortest season in world football that we have now. And Mooy, that Jaymz mentions, had a difficult job when he first went to Europe as he wasn't robust enough to handle the extended amount of games. Time we got moving on this front. Bring in a minimum of 4 new teams to the A League in as short a time frame as possible. dude. mooy went into the championship and was playing nearly 60 games in comp and cup. plus NT duties. had no breaks because of NT. there are very few players that would hold up to that. but aside from that agree. the aus league is pretty much part time. the injuries our players get consistently when they go to europe say to me that they also train at semi pro levels and they dont cope with the step up in training regimes.
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Borrello, Rogic, Mileusnic on the bench
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Behich starting, again. What a difference a change of club makes. Has he locked in the LB position for the Socceroos now or Elder (he starts every game for Hull & they may get automatic promotion to the Championship next season)
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+xBehich starting, again. What a difference a change of club makes. Has he locked in the LB position for the Socceroos now or Elder (he starts every game for Hull & they may get automatic promotion to the Championship next season) Healthy competition for the spot. Elder is very good. His debut for Australia keeps getting hampered by injury or pandemics.
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Borrello comes on and gets an assist. Behich assist as well. Gersbach bench, no Arzani
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Brighton under a lot of pressure now. Sanchez with a nice flap for the second goal. Wouldn't height be an advantage there?
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Degenek started in a 2-0 win. Mabil (1-0 loss), Rogic (0-0 draw) & Armenakas (3-0 loss) all came off the bench.
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+xBrighton under a lot of pressure now. Sanchez with a nice flap for the second goal. Wouldn't height be an advantage there? Long may the losses continue, hoping they go to League 1.
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