Strongly disagree.

With the fine margins of football,  two decisive saves from a very experienced Egyptian overage (?) keeper, denied Australia making the quarters against Brazil.

One decisive fumble  from correct age Glover,  conceded the second goal.

I don't think anyone could've done better than Arnie.

1. Had zero rotation plan... Played basically all the same players every game despite only 2 days between games. Wales, Metcalfe and genreau were clearly tired by third game, king too. Bacchus who has the biggest engine in the squad meanwhile was only used as a sub twice. 

2. Arzani meanwhile, who was electric against Spain, was inexplicably left off despite being subbed early in the first 2 matches. Like if there was anyone you would have started it would have been him. Wales meanwhile starts 3 fucking matches 

3. The non selection of actual footballers in kalik, Deni, de Silva and armenaskas makes no sense to me either. Again, Wales meanwhile starts 3 fucking matches 

4. Our biggest strength in this side is the centre back partnership of souttar and Deng, and then Arnold goes and shifts Deng to Right back, where he looked like a fish on a bicycle! 

5. Despite our players being completely fucked from 3 games in quick  succession, arnie leaves 2 subs up his sleeve til the 90th fucking minute.. what is the point of that! 

6. In a reduced squad with again little time between games, what was the need for a third keeper?! Should have brought an extra striker as evidenced by what happened with a CB up forward. 

7. Arnie had another 2 overage spots up his sleeve that he didn't use. Now look I get it that its good to give the exposure to the young guys blah blah, but think about the effect that say a Ryan and mooy would have made in helping us keep possession of the ball which was our biggest fault this tournament. These 2 guys I think would have helped us get to the knock out stages i believe  which would have given even more spotlight to our young stars like arzani, Atkinson, Deng etc to potentially earn a big move. 

8. Clearly played for the draw in last game rather than back in our more technical footballers in arzani and piscopo. 

9. The selection of genreau and Metcalfe and non selection of devlin and Bacchus in last match.. they were both cooked and blind Freddy could see that Bacchus should have started that game.. the fact Arnold brought him on at half time is an admission of that fact 

agreed and sub007's post.

We don't know all the ins and out going back to selection time of the squad - wasn't there some good prospects not given clearance by their Clubs for starters ???
We also saw GA wanted to give as many local youth players the go for he didn't use up 2 more over aged player spots that imo should have.
I get the rage I'm disappointed as well BUT its not all on him, its a team with the coachs win lose draw.
Easy to blame him but we also didn't take our slim chances as well, barring the 2 good game winning saves by their keeper Arzani skied a shot, put another in the keepers hands And a couple of times King should have pulled the trigger.
On top of he's not the one out there passing terribly/giving ball away - even though his starting line up was questionable all those players we're getting shut down far too easy in the 1st half, they were running like rabbits and we didn't react quick enough.
We had our chances and thats the diff of winning losing the fine margins as mentioned.

Also, Arnie gave many young players a chance. They will learn.

We only had one overage player.

The A L players were every bit as good as players playing overseas.

One point is that all three of our opponents were not clinical around goal either.  Is this coincidence, or the result  of an organised and cohesive  defensive  unit? 

agreed and sub007's post.

We don't know all the ins and out going back to selection time of the squad - wasn't there some good prospects not given clearance by their Clubs for starters ???
We also saw GA wanted to give as many local youth players the go for he didn't use up 2 more over aged player spots that imo should have.
I get the rage I'm disappointed as well BUT its not all on him, its a team with the coachs win lose draw.
Easy to blame him but we also didn't take our slim chances as well, barring the 2 good game winning saves by their keeper Arzani skied a shot, put another in the keepers hands And a couple of times King should have pulled the trigger.
On top of he's not the one out there passing terribly/giving ball away - even though his starting line up was questionable all those players we're getting shut down far too easy in the 1st half, they were running like rabbits and we didn't react quick enough.
We had our chances and thats the diff of winning losing the fine margins as mentioned.

He set us up for the final game better than I think most of us would have predicted. But he completely screwed the pooch in the last game. 

Had he gone out and scored first, then Egypt would have needed to take even bigger risks to score twice. 

Instead Arnold went for a 0-0, risking them scoring first ,which they did, and then all the pressure was back on us

As I said in the other thread, I’m not defending Arnie’s set-up against Egypt as I am also disappointed we played for a draw and didn’t set out to win the match.

I will say again that as much as some people are wishing for Arnie to be sacked, no one is offering any realistic alternatives. Who else do you think would have done a better job at:

A) Qualifying for the Olympics for the first time in over a decade 

B) Earning 3 points in that group of death 

The other managers who had the job in the past didn’t even qualify us for the tournament. So at a bare minimum, Arnie is by far the most successful option we’ve had in the role in over a decade.

Again, I’m not taking anything away from last night’s disappointing performance, however it feels like the ‘Arnie Out’ crowd aren’t living in reality right now in terms of available options for the job.

As I said in the other thread, I’m not defending Arnie’s set-up against Egypt as I am also disappointed we played for a draw and didn’t set out to win the match.

I will say again that as much as some people are wishing for Arnie to be sacked, no one is offering any realistic alternatives. Who else do you think would have done a better job at:

A) Qualifying for the Olympics for the first time in over a decade 

B) Earning 3 points in that group of death 

The other managers who had the job in the past didn’t even qualify us for the tournament. So at a bare minimum, Arnie is by far the most successful option we’ve had in the role in over a decade.

Again, I’m not taking anything away from last night’s disappointing performance, however it feels like the ‘Arnie Out’ crowd aren’t living in reality right now in terms of available options for the job.

This is not advocating for Ange but if you could imagine he was in charge, what would or performance look like. If you can imagine that this team would have more possession and play on the front foot more with more courage then it dispells the idea that the standard we produced is mostly because of the players. 

This is football in this country.
It's all about fighting national team spirit, valiant losses and 'next time'.

In the meantime, we'll watch the A-League, get overexcited about young players who are 'the next big thing'. We will hype them up too much, they'll go to Europe on hope without much senior experience and then they'll probably get injured for a while adjusting. Might get loaned out a bit, might come home again. They'll probably turn in to solid pros, but certainly not stars.

We'll get up at 2am to watch Middle Eastern qualifiers I'm 50 degrees. We might scrape through and qualify for a World Cup.
When the Cup comes we will be hopeful, yet probably lose our group games, but it's okay. Because we'll show fight and character. But hey, we qualified! Remember when we couldnt? Didn't you know that that's our victory?! And so I'll be hurt and frustrated again, and I'll wait for next time. 

Like a toxic relationship, that's the cycle of being an Australian football fan. It's always the hope that kills.

..the boys tried their best. No denying that. Massive question marks over Arnie's squad management and tactics. This was ALWAYS our must win game.

we looked even money to equalise 2nd half until the big guy came on up front then looked out of ideas. 2 great saves by their keeper and it could have been different. 

1. Had zero rotation plan... Played basically all the same players every game despite only 2 days between games. Wales, Metcalfe and genreau were clearly tired by third game, king too. Bacchus who has the biggest engine in the squad meanwhile was only used as a sub twice. 

2. Arzani meanwhile, who was electric against Spain, was inexplicably left off despite being subbed early in the first 2 matches. Like if there was anyone you would have started it would have been him. Wales meanwhile starts 3 fucking matches 

3. The non selection of actual footballers in kalik, Deni, de Silva and armenaskas makes no sense to me either. Again, Wales meanwhile starts 3 fucking matches 

4. Our biggest strength in this side is the centre back partnership of souttar and Deng, and then Arnold goes and shifts Deng to Right back, where he looked like a fish on a bicycle! 

5. Despite our players being completely fucked from 3 games in quick  succession, arnie leaves 2 subs up his sleeve til the 90th fucking minute.. what is the point of that! 

6. In a reduced squad with again little time between games, what was the need for a third keeper?! Should have brought an extra striker as evidenced by what happened with a CB up forward. 

7. Arnie had another 2 overage spots up his sleeve that he didn't use. Now look I get it that its good to give the exposure to the young guys blah blah, but think about the effect that say a Ryan and mooy would have made in helping us keep possession of the ball which was our biggest fault this tournament. These 2 guys I think would have helped us get to the knock out stages i believe  which would have given even more spotlight to our young stars like arzani, Atkinson, Deng etc to potentially earn a big move. 

8. Clearly played for the draw in last game rather than back in our more technical footballers in arzani and piscopo. 

9. The selection of genreau and Metcalfe and non selection of devlin and Bacchus in last match.. they were both cooked and blind Freddy could see that Bacchus should have started that game.. the fact Arnold brought him on at half time is an admission of that fact 

African champions perhaps. Not bad considering the quality of opposition in Africa.

Not saying we couldn't have done better but it's ignorant to think Egypt were a team we could have easily beaten. 

Contract ends after the 2022 WC.

agreed and sub007's post.

We don't know all the ins and out going back to selection time of the squad - wasn't there some good prospects not given clearance by their Clubs for starters ???
We also saw GA wanted to give as many local youth players the go for he didn't use up 2 more over aged player spots that imo should have.
I get the rage I'm disappointed as well BUT its not all on him, its a team with the coachs win lose draw.
Easy to blame him but we also didn't take our slim chances as well, barring the 2 good game winning saves by their keeper Arzani skied a shot, put another in the keepers hands And a couple of times King should have pulled the trigger.
On top of he's not the one out there passing terribly/giving ball away - even though his starting line up was questionable all those players we're getting shut down far too easy in the 1st half, they were running like rabbits and we didn't react quick enough.
We had our chances and thats the diff of winning losing the fine margins as mentioned.

African champions perhaps. Not bad considering the quality of opposition in Africa.

Not saying we couldn't have done better but it's ignorant to think Egypt were a team we could have easily beaten. 

He set us up for the final game better than I think most of us would have predicted. But he completely screwed the pooch in the last game. 

Had he gone out and scored first, then Egypt would have needed to take even bigger risks to score twice. 

Instead Arnold went for a 0-0, risking them scoring first ,which they did, and then all the pressure was back on us

Don't forget Wales starting 3 matches.