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+xHow do you burn through $140 million in 3 years? Don't forget the $12million for the Grand Final/Unite Round in Sydney.
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+x+xHow do you burn through $140 million in 3 years? Pay a dividend to every club. Spend $60 million on a website. And redundancies :)
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+xHow do you burn through $140 million in 3 years? Pay a dividend to every club. Spend $60 million on a website.
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How do you burn through $140 million in 3 years?
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Dec 2022 :-
Global Advance: Challenging the duopoly“NEP and Gravity Media are both very well-run, established production services companies,” said Hogg about the existing production outsourcing giants. “Chris and I thought that duopoly could be shaken up a bit.
We don’t need to dominate the sector to derive a solid return on capital.
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Hogg finished with, “GA is here to stay, our investment will significantly shift in the next twelve months as we grow market share. We don’t need to be the biggest, but we certainly want to be the best.”
https://www.mediaweek.com.au/global-advance-wants-to-disrupt-tv-production-outsourcing-says-ian-hogg/
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+xSo where has all the Silverlake money gone ? $140 million in and now the cupboard is bare What does everyone reckon, Fall guys or tying up loose ends ? 
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So where has all the Silverlake money gone ?
$140 million in and now the cupboard is bare
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So an entity that owns 30% of the league now owns 15% of one of the teams in it ?
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Silverlake now own 15%:of CFG
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Ah, that would make complete sense then ... thank you
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+x+x+xIn fairness , they did have an a- league "All stars " game , didn' t they ? Yes, Popovic was the manager. Is he American ? Yes he was manger of Tom Brady's team n the NFL as well. He was known as Popovich back then.
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+x+xIn fairness , they did have an a- league "All stars " game , didn' t they ? Yes, Popovic was the manager. Is he American ?
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+xIn fairness , they did have an a- league "All stars " game , didn' t they ? Yes, Popovic was the manager.
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In fairness , they did have an a- league "All stars " game , didn' t they ?
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+xI would like to know what they have done with all the money ?? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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+xI would like to know what they have done with all the money ?? Heard they are building the Stadium and two storey headquarters for Western Utd.
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I would like to know what they have done with all the money ??
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+xAs you might have realized, soccer in Australia is similar to the North American leagues. The A-League is a closed championship (no relegation or promotion) of 11 Australian clubs and one New Zealand club. Please set your bots to use Australian English on this site. "Realise." I for one will not buy your pazzports, high level degreez, crypto advice or kitchen rebuildz unlezz you identify more clozely with my needz.
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As you might have realized, soccer in Australia is similar to the North American leagues. The A-League is a closed championship (no relegation or promotion) of 11 Australian clubs and one New Zealand club. The tournament consists of two parts: regular season and knockout matches. The regular season winner is named Premier, and the play-off winner is named Champion. And what it says on the site, I think it's a fantastic opportunity to try something new. And my business will remain to bet on matches at https://1bonzaspins.com/ and to make money.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. I have a few clubs around the world and locally I "follow" too... I cant speak for all of us soccer tragics but I would hazard that most of us were a step above our classmates in Geography at school?. Who else but the soccer nerds knew where the hell Lisbon, Kiev and Dortmund were? Hahah Everyone in my sphere has a favourite EPL club, German club, Italian club, Spanish club and Greek club etc etc. But there is nothing like your first true love, the club above all other clubs. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... Maybe I'm a sentimental old fool but money and marketing and artificial rivalry can't create that, and part of "that" hunger is what used to drive the kids with the ball and jumpers as goalposts..... Now those kids have all got one of the many CR7 club shirts (their poor parents have to fork out another $200 whenever the shampoo model changes clubs) and $300 boots and they all do a special dance when they score ......... Money calls the tune mate, I just don't feel like dancing to it anymore :) You got that one right, but I'm an old fool too. But I'm smart enough to realise what another old fool sung 50 years ago Your old road is rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin' You really do have a beef with me huh, old timer? I prefer: "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you" BTW, did you see the shampoo model kick a poor kid lying on the ground on Monday morning? What a grub huh Robert? No beef with you mate, maybe just see thing a little differently. You mean Ronaldo, yeah not a good look, I've seen far worse from Maradona & he, Pele, Messi & Roanlado are the top 4 best players ever. This is the first time I've really seen him lash out though in his career, was only a Liverpool player though, they do that at training. Haahahaha watch Diego's last game for Barca in Spain (I think it was a cup game from memory) hahahahahha little bugger jumped straight up and karate kicked a player in the chest. HAHAHAAH mad bastard....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc But 15 years without ever experiencing a relegation battle, relegation itself or The following Promotion tilt or Promotion itself Or even better, experiencing Victory getting relegated Over the years on 442 I've come to realise I don't care about the machinations of football behind the scenes as much as others. I think the only people left on this forum are the ones who care too much about this stuff. I'm not sure I have heard a single conversation about this stuff in the stands at Hindmarsh in 17 years.I have watched and played the sport my whole life. Literally kicked a ball from when I could stand and I absolutely love going to a game, having a few beers, firing up and walking out laughing or swearing. The rest is all bullshit and if it wasn't for the internet we'd all just be the one cranky bastard at every club who wants to chew your ear off once a fortnight at home games and puts his arm on you when he's doing it so you can't walk away aha Hahahahah fair enough. Do you think the conversation in Hindmarsh may change if/when Silverlake decide that the current Aleague clubs are not appealing enough to their massive overseas target market and they need to introduce a whole new set of "clubs" to Australia .... It's all "bullshit" to you my friend because you have a club you have hitched your wagon to in the top flight. My club can NEVER join.... ...and if South ever "bought a license" it wouldn't be long before you started to care less about the Knights or Carlton SC not being there... Anyway, I don't think the closed shop is a good system and I am 100% all for clubs like SM being in the league whichever way that happens. I'm just saying that a lot of people don't care about the politics and you admit yourself half of South's fans jumped ship anyway and obviously don't care about the politics either. I dare say most sports fans just enjoy watching the sport they love and only have a passing interest in league structures etc etc Exactly, John Oliver an British comedian TV host on American TV prior to the 2014 WC said on American TV. 'Awarding the WC to Qatar would be similar to hosting the next Super Bowl in swimming pool, all us football fans hate it, but next week the WC in Brazil starts & we will all be glued to it, because we all love the Football but hate the Politics'.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. I have a few clubs around the world and locally I "follow" too... I cant speak for all of us soccer tragics but I would hazard that most of us were a step above our classmates in Geography at school?. Who else but the soccer nerds knew where the hell Lisbon, Kiev and Dortmund were? Hahah Everyone in my sphere has a favourite EPL club, German club, Italian club, Spanish club and Greek club etc etc. But there is nothing like your first true love, the club above all other clubs. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... Maybe I'm a sentimental old fool but money and marketing and artificial rivalry can't create that, and part of "that" hunger is what used to drive the kids with the ball and jumpers as goalposts..... Now those kids have all got one of the many CR7 club shirts (their poor parents have to fork out another $200 whenever the shampoo model changes clubs) and $300 boots and they all do a special dance when they score ......... Money calls the tune mate, I just don't feel like dancing to it anymore :) You got that one right, but I'm an old fool too. But I'm smart enough to realise what another old fool sung 50 years ago Your old road is rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin' You really do have a beef with me huh, old timer? I prefer: "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you" BTW, did you see the shampoo model kick a poor kid lying on the ground on Monday morning? What a grub huh Robert? No beef with you mate, maybe just see thing a little differently. You mean Ronaldo, yeah not a good look, I've seen far worse from Maradona & he, Pele, Messi & Roanlado are the top 4 best players ever. This is the first time I've really seen him lash out though in his career, was only a Liverpool player though, they do that at training.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc But 15 years without ever experiencing a relegation battle, relegation itself or The following Promotion tilt or Promotion itself Or even better, experiencing Victory getting relegated Over the years on 442 I've come to realise I don't care about the machinations of football behind the scenes as much as others. I think the only people left on this forum are the ones who care too much about this stuff. I'm not sure I have heard a single conversation about this stuff in the stands at Hindmarsh in 17 years.I have watched and played the sport my whole life. Literally kicked a ball from when I could stand and I absolutely love going to a game, having a few beers, firing up and walking out laughing or swearing. The rest is all bullshit and if it wasn't for the internet we'd all just be the one cranky bastard at every club who wants to chew your ear off once a fortnight at home games and puts his arm on you when he's doing it so you can't walk away aha Hahahahah fair enough. Do you think the conversation in Hindmarsh may change if/when Silverlake decide that the current Aleague clubs are not appealing enough to their massive overseas target market and they need to introduce a whole new set of "clubs" to Australia .... It's all "bullshit" to you my friend because you have a club you have hitched your wagon to in the top flight. My club can NEVER join.... ...and if South ever "bought a license" it wouldn't be long before you started to care less about the Knights or Carlton SC not being there... Anyway, I don't think the closed shop is a good system and I am 100% all for clubs like SM being in the league whichever way that happens. I'm just saying that a lot of people don't care about the politics and you admit yourself half of South's fans jumped ship anyway and obviously don't care about the politics either. I dare say most sports fans just enjoy watching the sport they love and only have a passing interest in league structures etc etc Well I guess we can cross that bridge if it ever happens ..... :P
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc But 15 years without ever experiencing a relegation battle, relegation itself or The following Promotion tilt or Promotion itself Or even better, experiencing Victory getting relegated Over the years on 442 I've come to realise I don't care about the machinations of football behind the scenes as much as others. I think the only people left on this forum are the ones who care too much about this stuff. I'm not sure I have heard a single conversation about this stuff in the stands at Hindmarsh in 17 years.I have watched and played the sport my whole life. Literally kicked a ball from when I could stand and I absolutely love going to a game, having a few beers, firing up and walking out laughing or swearing. The rest is all bullshit and if it wasn't for the internet we'd all just be the one cranky bastard at every club who wants to chew your ear off once a fortnight at home games and puts his arm on you when he's doing it so you can't walk away aha Hahahahah fair enough. Do you think the conversation in Hindmarsh may change if/when Silverlake decide that the current Aleague clubs are not appealing enough to their massive overseas target market and they need to introduce a whole new set of "clubs" to Australia .... It's all "bullshit" to you my friend because you have a club you have hitched your wagon to in the top flight. My club can NEVER join.... ...and if South ever "bought a license" it wouldn't be long before you started to care less about the Knights or Carlton SC not being there... Anyway, I don't think the closed shop is a good system and I am 100% all for clubs like SM being in the league whichever way that happens. I'm just saying that a lot of people don't care about the politics and you admit yourself half of South's fans jumped ship anyway and obviously don't care about the politics either. I dare say most sports fans just enjoy watching the sport they love and only have a passing interest in league structures etc etc
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc Bang on, as I said above: "Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books" Whatever your reasons for being "rusted on" all of them are valid, even the ones like you say that left their NSL clubs to follow the shiny new toy (as much as I personally dont understand them I dont think they are less passionate about their club than I am mine.) My point is that being rusted on should mean that you see the club as more than just a provider of "content". What the lads or lasses play out on the pitch is the embodiment of our passion as fans NOT a sitcom or a reality show for Investors to monetize.... Club passion (and I agree with you, in 15-20 years time these ALeague clubs will be just like normal ones to their fans) is something that I believe is lacking in our sport here in Australia and what is needed as a driver to increase its growth and popularity .... leading to a better outcome as a nation in football. Artificial rivalries, slick social media marketing and being locked away in a super league, closed off, plastic (for lack of a better word) league will not achieve those goals ... in my eyes anyway. But the ones that talk about content are the suits in the offices. Who cares? Coaches, players and fans don't call it content. I bet you anything the nsl suits talked in similar terms when they were trying to get tv deals etc We just hear more from the executives now because we sometimes make the papers or there are online publications unlike 20 years ago. Thats fair I guess. Maybe if Hellas was still in the top flight it wouldn't bug me as much, Im willing to concede that. In my hazy, at best, memory it seemed like the importance was on making the clubs themselves more "mainstream" friendly and all marketing efforts (along with the "White Australia policy" like whitewashing of the club's identities) were aimed at making it more inclusive, NOT less so. Anyway, its done now, APL has sold off the top league to these instagram social media influencers. Good luck with them uniting all of the football fans in Australia..... Yeah I agree re my main memories were of clubs trying to become more mainstream. On your last point, it's never gonna happen. Football fans here will never ever be united. We could start p/r tomorrow and the majority of "football fans" in Australia would still look down on us as being not as good as Liverpool (or whoever is winning that decade). That was the same in the NSL as it is today and it will be forever. They are the true plastics. Thats another issue ALL TOGETHER mate...I agree.. Im a Liverpool fan too, have been since the days of Barnes and Rush and Beardsley but always just a "fan" from afar.... What I watched on the park at Middle Park (and Jesus some of the dross served up in the last few years at Lakeside in the NPL...OMFG) had nothing to do with how I perceived the league... I would watch 11 players on crutches loose 14 nil every week, as long as they are wearing South jerseys :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc But 15 years without ever experiencing a relegation battle, relegation itself or The following Promotion tilt or Promotion itself Or even better, experiencing Victory getting relegated Over the years on 442 I've come to realise I don't care about the machinations of football behind the scenes as much as others. I think the only people left on this forum are the ones who care too much about this stuff. I'm not sure I have heard a single conversation about this stuff in the stands at Hindmarsh in 17 years.I have watched and played the sport my whole life. Literally kicked a ball from when I could stand and I absolutely love going to a game, having a few beers, firing up and walking out laughing or swearing. The rest is all bullshit and if it wasn't for the internet we'd all just be the one cranky bastard at every club who wants to chew your ear off once a fortnight at home games and puts his arm on you when he's doing it so you can't walk away aha Hahahahah fair enough. Do you think the conversation in Hindmarsh may change if/when Silverlake decide that the current Aleague clubs are not appealing enough to their massive overseas target market and they need to introduce a whole new set of "clubs" to Australia .... It's all "bullshit" to you my friend because you have a club you have hitched your wagon to in the top flight. My club can NEVER join....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc Bang on, as I said above: "Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books" Whatever your reasons for being "rusted on" all of them are valid, even the ones like you say that left their NSL clubs to follow the shiny new toy (as much as I personally dont understand them I dont think they are less passionate about their club than I am mine.) My point is that being rusted on should mean that you see the club as more than just a provider of "content". What the lads or lasses play out on the pitch is the embodiment of our passion as fans NOT a sitcom or a reality show for Investors to monetize.... Club passion (and I agree with you, in 15-20 years time these ALeague clubs will be just like normal ones to their fans) is something that I believe is lacking in our sport here in Australia and what is needed as a driver to increase its growth and popularity .... leading to a better outcome as a nation in football. Artificial rivalries, slick social media marketing and being locked away in a super league, closed off, plastic (for lack of a better word) league will not achieve those goals ... in my eyes anyway. But the ones that talk about content are the suits in the offices. Who cares? Coaches, players and fans don't call it content. I bet you anything the nsl suits talked in similar terms when they were trying to get tv deals etc We just hear more from the executives now because we sometimes make the papers or there are online publications unlike 20 years ago. Thats fair I guess. Maybe if Hellas was still in the top flight it wouldn't bug me as much, Im willing to concede that. In my hazy, at best, memory it seemed like the importance was on making the clubs themselves more "mainstream" friendly and all marketing efforts (along with the "White Australia policy" like whitewashing of the club's identities) were aimed at making it more inclusive, NOT less so. Anyway, its done now, APL has sold off the top league to these instagram social media influencers. Good luck with them uniting all of the football fans in Australia..... Yeah I agree re my main memories were of clubs trying to become more mainstream. On your last point, it's never gonna happen. Football fans here will never ever be united. We could start p/r tomorrow and the majority of "football fans" in Australia would still look down on us as being not as good as Liverpool (or whoever is winning that decade). That was the same in the NSL as it is today and it will be forever. They are the true plastics.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc Bang on, as I said above: "Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books" Whatever your reasons for being "rusted on" all of them are valid, even the ones like you say that left their NSL clubs to follow the shiny new toy (as much as I personally dont understand them I dont think they are less passionate about their club than I am mine.) My point is that being rusted on should mean that you see the club as more than just a provider of "content". What the lads or lasses play out on the pitch is the embodiment of our passion as fans NOT a sitcom or a reality show for Investors to monetize.... Club passion (and I agree with you, in 15-20 years time these ALeague clubs will be just like normal ones to their fans) is something that I believe is lacking in our sport here in Australia and what is needed as a driver to increase its growth and popularity .... leading to a better outcome as a nation in football. Artificial rivalries, slick social media marketing and being locked away in a super league, closed off, plastic (for lack of a better word) league will not achieve those goals ... in my eyes anyway. But the ones that talk about content are the suits in the offices. Who cares? Coaches, players and fans don't call it content. I bet you anything the nsl suits talked in similar terms when they were trying to get tv deals etc We just hear more from the executives now because we sometimes make the papers or there are online publications unlike 20 years ago. Thats fair I guess. Maybe if Hellas was still in the top flight it wouldn't bug me as much, Im willing to concede that. In my hazy, at best, memory it seemed like the importance was on making the clubs themselves more "mainstream" friendly and all marketing efforts (along with the "White Australia policy" like whitewashing of the club's identities) were aimed at making it more inclusive, NOT less so. Anyway, its done now, APL has sold off the top league to these instagram social media influencers. Good luck with them uniting all of the football fans in Australia.....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... To be fair, the A-League has now being going longer than we probably realise. 15 odd years of following an A-League team has given all of us those feelings even if 20 years ago we followed, half followed or didn't follow another team. None of those feelings or emotions are different because my team's owners have changed or the league structure isn't exactly how some people do or don't prefer etc etc etc But 15 years without ever experiencing a relegation battle, relegation itself or The following Promotion tilt or Promotion itself Or even better, experiencing Victory getting relegated Over the years on 442 I've come to realise I don't care about the machinations of football behind the scenes as much as others. I think the only people left on this forum are the ones who care too much about this stuff. I'm not sure I have heard a single conversation about this stuff in the stands at Hindmarsh in 17 years. I have watched and played the sport my whole life. Literally kicked a ball from when I could stand and I absolutely love going to a game, having a few beers, firing up and walking out laughing or swearing. The rest is all bullshit and if it wasn't for the internet we'd all just be the one cranky bastard at every club who wants to chew your ear off once a fortnight at home games and puts his arm on you when he's doing it so you can't walk away aha
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYes some of this money should eb used for a second div and for marquees. Also lol at the dopes who think this deal gives City 38% ownership of the aleague. I suppose we're also worried by what Airbnb, Alibaba, GoDaddy and Skype have in mind for the code?? This is an investment company. They're worried about money. They invest to help other companies make more money and then they in turn get richer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Lake_(investment_firm)#Investments You should lol at the dopes that will spend their hard earned wages gambling on the results of matches in this league big fella. As far as I know the results of matches between Alibaba vs Skype don't get bet on online..... Its ok if they come right out and say its "sportertainment" like wrestling, but while they are still pretending its a football competition its a bit suss that the lines of "ownership" are so blurred wouldn't you say? I see why you call yourself mono... I actually find your repartee insightful and amusing most of the time but it must be exhausting trying to convince yourself the A-League isn't football. Personal insults aside, are YOU not concerned that the opportunities for match fixing are now doubled if not tripled? What would you call a so called "sporting competition" were franchises own a stake in each other, where one "club" effectively is financially in bed with a consortium that now owns 30% of the league??? I must be naïve but that, to me, is alarming. "MLS lite" is not the "golden standard" that will make our sport grow, make our playing pool better and create an environment where all Australians can enjoy and appreciate this glorious, beautiful game we all love. Even the yanks are starting to see the light and the grumbling from fans and clubs below the money tiers is growing ever louder over there... why must we look to one failing example instead of following the 200+ other , better examples of leagues around the world? A-League or APL or Aleagues Men's, Women's and Children's or Isuzu Trucks event series or whatever they are now calling themselves may very well play the sport of football, however this is now, clearly, incidental as their goal (self declared by the way - just have look back at all of Lederer and Townsend's decelerations over the last few months) is to generate "content" for public consumption. A-League Franchises currently may very well PLAY football (currently) but they are NOT Football mate.In truth, this is actually a great thing for real football in this country. It marks the "line in the sand" moment where the A-leagues competitions cease to be the financial burden on the other 700+ clubs in the country and we can focus on creating what we have never had in this country, a true football pyramid from amateur to National NPL, all interconnected.... In fact I agree with pretty much all of that, except the highlighted part. I want nothing more than for football to be the best it can possibly be in this country and that absolutely requires the fully connected pyramid. But don't tell a rusted on Mariners supporter, or Victory supporter or any other supporter who goes along to every match and experiences the oscillation of joy and grief that they're not watching (and part of) football. As I've said before, one of the happiest days in my life will be when South are promoted on merit to the AL. Then we might agree. Mate, no beef whatsoever with the supporters of these clubs - especially the ones who have jumped on board with the surge of the sports popularity over the last 15 years... Anyone under the age of 30 or so who is an Aleague supporter, or even the new ones over that age that didnt follow the sport in this country before are well regarded in my books (as for the turncoats who abandoned their old NSL clubs to jump on board a new franchise .... well I think they are the lowest form of bandwagoner to be honest but thats their problem). Ofcourse these clubs have established rusted on support (even the newest abominations will over time I guess?) but that's not the issue here. In fact that is one of the few strength the Aleague brought, a whole bunch of people who engaged with a club and the sport of football who otherwise might not have.... The issue is that the APL and their new financial bedfellows are running the sport as a business, even in the darkest days of the NSL soccer was at the core of all issues. Fame and prestige (and political clout I suppose) from having a strong club, promoting their own agendas, being a celebrity in their own circles etc etc whatever the reason the previous Soccer Australia mob did all the ridiculously scandalous things they did it was always soccer at the heart of it.. When I hear the head of APL and the CEO of FA describe the sport I love as "content" I guess that just gets my goat..... Again, I agree with (pretty much) all of that. Money calls the tune everywhere, but an A-League club doesn't have to be your only club. I take an interest in a number of clubs but I'm also the sort of bloke who'll stop and watch a couple of kids kick a ball with jumpers as goalposts. I have a few clubs around the world and locally I "follow" too... I cant speak for all of us soccer tragics but I would hazard that most of us were a step above our classmates in Geography at school?. Who else but the soccer nerds knew where the hell Lisbon, Kiev and Dortmund were? Hahah Everyone in my sphere has a favourite EPL club, German club, Italian club, Spanish club and Greek club etc etc. But there is nothing like your first true love, the club above all other clubs. The one you ride the highs and lows with over 40, 50, 60 years of your life.... , the one where as a grown man you still stumble out of the gate after a heavy loss feeling like you've been through a colonoscopy. The club who's last minute winner actually causes your heart to skip a beat..... Maybe I'm a sentimental old fool but money and marketing and artificial rivalry can't create that, and part of "that" hunger is what used to drive the kids with the ball and jumpers as goalposts..... Now those kids have all got one of the many CR7 club shirts (their poor parents have to fork out another $200 whenever the shampoo model changes clubs) and $300 boots and they all do a special dance when they score ......... Money calls the tune mate, I just don't feel like dancing to it anymore :) You got that one right, but I'm an old fool too. But I'm smart enough to realise what another old fool sung 50 years ago Your old road is rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin' You really do have a beef with me huh, old timer? I prefer: "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you" BTW, did you see the shampoo model kick a poor kid lying on the ground on Monday morning? What a grub huh Robert?
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