As I reported earlier, today's news:

"MRI scan to diagnose myocarditis after Covid-19 vaccine added to Medicare Benefits Schedule"

"Australians who suffer from rare heart conditions after their coronavirus vaccines will soon be able to access a new government payment."

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/mri-scan-to-diagnose-myocarditis-after-covid19-vaccine-added-to-medicare-benefits-schedule/news-story/9795fb7b3140b420565bc629cc1c2df9

In the above news article, the word "rare" is used 4 times. The Media really want you people to realise this myocarditis after Covid-19 vaccine is rare, rare, rare, rare.

Someone in the comments under the article said: it's so rare, it needs its own Medicare claim number.

What I have learned, from debating on this forum, is that society contains people that will follow the Media's instructions to the letter, and keep saying it is rare, rare, rare, rare.

Pfizer's own document, revealed under Freedom of Information, stated that 3.3% of all the side effects related to: Acute myocardial infarction; Arrhythmia; Cardiac failure; Cardiac failure acute; Cardiogenic shock; Coronary artery disease; Myocardial infarction; Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome; Stress cardiomyopathy; Tachycardia

See bottom of page 16 of this Pfizer document, that Pfizer wanted to keep secret, but it was forced out of them under Freedom of Information:

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

And yet, there will be people, such as on this forum, who will follow the instructions given to them by the Media, to keep saying it's rare, rare, rare, rare.

Media says that word 4 times, and the masses follow.

See the post made directly above, by our mate DavidE82, for an example of a person who mocks anyone who questions the Media.

Tell me if there's anything wrong with this logical statement that I read:

IF a vaccinated person feels safer by avoiding un-vaccinated people, it means that vaccinated person does not trust the vaccine that they took to protect themselves.

Admit it.

Holy shit this page could be the record breaker - up to SIX already in one post!!

I kinda don't want anyone else to post on this page to see how many we can get to if he just talks to himself!!

mental health is a growing problem in this country...particularly among young white men

coincidentally there is a venn intersection between mental health problems and anti-vaxers

we shouldn't ridicule these people but provide them with established facts from reliable sources in an attempt to help them stay grounded with some sense of reality

So fast and another example reveals his true colours. When cesspit has been given correction on the point that the doctors, such as Dr. Robert Malone - among the pioneer inventors of the MRNA vaccine, who devoted his career to vaccine research and development -- are not "anti-vax", Malone is a pro-vax scientist sounding warnings that there is something very wrong with these specific vaccines.

That is not "anti-vax". That is a pro-vaxer warning of dangers of these specific vaccines.

But the indoctrination to use the term "anti-vax" is so strong among people like Cesspit, he cannot help using to slander those who dare to warn of the dangers. He is goaded on by fellow mockers, which makes him think everyone is ignoring the emerging data.

:D :D:D:D:D:D

The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

Malone debunked

Thanks to the media

See how easy it is to herd the Masses.

That Atlantic article is dated 13 August 2021 which uses old data. It says the vaccines prevent infection, which has been debunked by U.K. government data. See this chart with your very own eyes:



This is backed up by medical research papers which show that the vaccines do not stop transmission.

Dated November 2021

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02243-1/fulltext#coronavirus-linkback-header

Dated: November 2021

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=09#%20

Even the CDC director Rochelle Walensky says that the vaccine *cannot* prevent transmission, dated 3 October 2021

https://twitter.com/ANTHONYBLOGAN/status/1444390327884947461

Hence, that Atlantic article -- which you say "debunked" with the triumphant boof of a Barmy Army true believer even when their side is sliding towards another 5-0 whitewash - that Atlantic article is old data.

Sheeesh, everyone knows by now that the 1st and 2nd doses of the vaccines are virtually useless against Omicron, and everyone is bleating for a 3rd dose of the same drug hoping good things come in 3's.

Incidentally, to those on this forum who are quaking in their speedos awaiting their appointment for the 3rd booster, note today's news:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10329827/South-Africas-daily-Covid-cases-fall-day-row-hospital-admissions-drop-20.html

"chief modeller admits they don't do optimistic estimates because 'that doesn't get decisions made'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10328333/Why-easier-believe-Father-Christmas-SAGEs-6k-Covid-deaths-day-projection.html#reader-comments

"Face of Australia's vaccine rollout Dr Nick Coatsworth SLAMS Covid doomsayers and claims worrying reports about Omicron are 'inaccurate'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10330315/Nick-Coatsworth-slams-Covid-doomsayers-claims-reports-Omicron-inaccurate.html

Look, I know that this is an evolving situation, and we're all waiting for further data -- but, face it, if the vaccines were so effective, the world would not be in this position right now.

Might have something to do with all peer reviewed data showing it to be, you know, rare:

I'd throw a few links up but why waste my time. You never bother actually reading anything. 

Even though you are obnoxious and essentially everything you post is nonsense, you must realise Cesspit isn't posting in good faith either.

That article was just a character assassination (an interesting one which made good points, sure) but I BELIEVE he is just posting these quick lazy "debunked" posts to show the rest of us up as something. Not sure what to be honest but yeah...

omg just gave this a crack. Hilarious. 

:D

It's Paulc for sure.

Don't conflate all the shit you speak with the hope (I dare say a lot of us have) that omicron is a milder strain that could outcompete deadlier strains.

You can't quote someone saying keep calm about omicron and use it to prove anything besides the point he is making

Yeah that's my bet

Mate, it's the data coming out of South Africa that is giving cause for optimism.

Meanwhile, because Oz has bought a ton of vaccine doses, plus they have a secret deal with Pfizer that no one can see what they got us into -- so they gotta use up the stocks of vaxes somehow.

Why aren't you rushing out to Coles to get some extra Vitamin C, D and Zinc? There are doctors who've treated thousands of Covid patients, and used these protocols, and some have not had hardly any patients needing to go to hospital.

Why be so committed to the narrative? What's the harm in taking extra Vitamin C, D and Zinc? It it doesn't work, hey, no big loss. But if the doctors, who are advocating this, are onto something, why not try it?

Just for kicks, check out this video: How to end the pandemic in 6 weeks

https://rumble.com/voqyxv-how-to-end-the-pandemic-in-just-6-short-weeks.html

Even if Melbourne Doctor Ian Brighthope's premise is just HALF true, isn't it worth trying?

If you think it is mindless to follow the recommendations of a doctor such as Dr Ian Brighthope recommendation of high Vitamin D blood levels, you realise you're also on a similar journey of blind-trust and blind-faith hoping that boosters are going to work, when there are reports like this: "ALL major Covid vaccines are 'markedly' weaker at preventing Omicron infection — even boosters — lab trial suggests"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10320345/Will-booster-jabs-REALLY-beat-Omicron-Trial-shows-variant-markedly-resistant-Covid-vaccines.html

So data showing lower hospitalisations/deaths in South Africa is immediately a "cause for optimism" yet but the data showing a booster is 80% effective at preventing severe disease from omicron is only "blind faith".  

Talk about confirmation bias. 

(VAR) IS NAVY BLUE

This data is for those slow on the uptake.

TGA said, on 16 December 2021:

"How serious is myocarditis?
Myocarditis is often mild, and cases usually resolve after a few days with treatment and rest. Some cases are more serious need to be treated in hospital. Our analysis has found about half of the patients with suspected myocarditis were admitted to hospital. Five people with confirmed myocarditis were treated in intensive care. This represents about 1% of all confirmed myocarditis cases. Most patients admitted to hospital were discharged within 4 days."

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-16-12-2021

We must not treat this debate like football where people blindly follow their team. The lives of our nation's children are at stake from people willing to get their children vaccinated for a disease that, for children, has a virtually a 0% chance of kids dying.

So the TGA's definition of myocarditis being mild is when half the people having it from the vaccines had to go to hospital.

But remember very carefully: if, after the vax, you get myocarditis after the 22nd day, you're on your own. No compensation. Medicare only covers it from days 1 to 21.

Why just 21 days? Because Pfizer's secret trials data said the range was 1 to 21 days. So basically, if you get it from day 22nd onwards, you cover the medical bills yourself.

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

"However, 1-8% of those diagnosed with myocarditis require a heart transplant." says the Myocarditis Foundation.
https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/life-after-a-heart-transplant/

So just hope that our friends in our communities don't get myocarditis from Day 22 onwards, and hope your boys aren't in the 1 to 8% who need a heart transplant.

And there are people who are so enthusiastic about kids getting vaccinated. Remember, getting Covid and recovering from it is not the end of the world.

I had a friend in his 20's who got Covid, and was sounding off against anti-vaxers and how everyone should get vaccinated. About 4 days later, he recovered and was out swimming in the sea.

This has to be the best one yet

It's conclusive guys. John Smith had a friend that went swimming after recovering from COVID.  

If that doesn't convince you that we're all going to have heart attacks in the next few months, nothing will.  

Also, something something media.

This is scary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFdfbG6ldsg

Big picture person vs small picture person.

You pick on my anecdote of my friend who got Covid -- but you ignore the report of TGA's statement, and the myocarditis statistics of 1-8% needing a heart transplant. This shows you how much many people are on a leash. The Media gives it a good yank, and the compliant fall into line by ignoring any information that is against the narrative. These people ignore it by pouncing on any information they can use to insult the other side.

The lives of our children is at stake, and you belittle me for an anecdote?

I didn't ignore the TGA's statement.

In fact, unlike you, I actually read it.   Note the numbers of those diagnosed with myocarditis and divide by the number of doses administered. 

Pretty rare isn't it? 

They get enjoyment out of thinking they are in possession of the "truth" and will stoop to anything to hold onto that. 

John Smith is a prime example.  Look at the way he belittles everybody with his sociology 101 bullshit.  

I’m dumbfounded how anyone there can’t just look around and go - “hang on there’s only deadshits and Nuffies here, there’s no successful people. Should I really be listening to these loonies” 

Nahhhhh bra da media just shows the worst off emm

Theres thousands of cardiologist indat crowd

Don't be hard on yourself. Deep inside, when one scratches beneath the surface, you're probably a genuinely good person.

Sorry but this is just plain ignorant

The whole point of Movember is to highlight the issues that males have with mental health  (things like anxiety, depression etc...) and get them the help they need. Its about saying its OK for a male to have these issues and we're here to help

What you did is imply that mental health is a weakness and something that only stupid people have, and we need to educate them. How is your ignorance towards mental health issues in this country any different to an anti-vaxxers ignorance towards logic, fact and rational thinking?

Australia's view of this pandemic has been dollars vs deaths. But not quality of life. Thats why we have mental health bail out packages over $200m each for the two biggest states. Thats why welfare workers continue to pester governments to drop restrictions

Mask restrictions have been dropped (for now. watch health officials use Omnicron as an excuse for another 6 months). Yet some students still wear masks at school. Why? Because they struggle with anxiety / confidence and it helps them reclude. No different to the hundreds of teenagers that walk around with hoodies and a cap even on 40 degree days. They hide their face, hide their identity, hide their expression, and people cant read how they are feeling

So what you have is a generation of Australians who, during the most important part of their development, learn to hide behind masks, use restrictions as an excuse, socially withdraw, etc... And then 2 or 3 years from now when all states except Victoria decide we're not doing this crap anymore, these (now) young / early adults have to front up to work places and a social structure without their security blankets

Australia hasnt had its pandemic yet. Everybody thought that if you're unvaccinated you're 20 times less likely to pass it on so we simply have a society for the unvaccinated. Now what we're seeing is opening up means we get the same numbers as other countries but not the hospitalisations or deaths. But people still see a need to panic about the numbers!!!!!!

2022 will be worse than 2021 because you can already see the "experts" are getting cold feet on opening up and calling for restrictions. And as long as we dont call it a "lockdown" then it suits our dollars vs deaths model. And the mental health impact will be worse because it wont be headline. Right ACT?

Scott Morrison said it best: "We have got to get past the heavy hand of government and we've got to treat Australians as adults," Morrison said at a news conference in Queensland Tuesday. "We have to move from a culture of mandates to a culture of responsibility. That's how we live with the virus into the future."

I called it a long time ago that vaccination would simply be an extra layer of protection for a country that simply does not want to open up. The long lasting mental health impacts a generation will have to endure is a pandemic in itself and one that (IMO) is worse than COVID. We have a vaccine for the virus. There is no two or three booster shot program for mental health issues

Reports NSW considering making unvaccinated pay for covid treatment. Surely they will not object to this as covid is either:

- Not real
- They trust their immune system 
- They are not at any risk

Nothing to worry about then!