Coronavirus Megathread


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Davide82 - 6 Jan 2022 4:41 PM
bluebird2 - 6 Jan 2022 1:41 PM

Yep, he completely bottled it.
Everyone is pissed off with him.

1- You have the ones that never wanted to open up in the first place pissed off coz we have cases now.
2- You have the ones that wanted to open up coz we all did everything we were asked in order to remove restriction (like me) pissed off coz he has backtracked.

I don't see how he can survive an election I really don't.
He did the worst of both worlds. Opened up then got scared. Pathetic leader kowtowing to a public servant pediatrician who clearly LOVES the attention.

Which one are we talking about?

(I jest, of course)

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Davide82 - 10 Jan 2022 10:31 AM
bluebird2 - 9 Jan 2022 6:09 AM

I enjoyed this

As did I. I plan to use it myself.

There are only two intellectually honest debate tactics: (a) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s facts, or (b) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s logic. All other debate tactics are intellectually dishonest - John T. Reed

The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...




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tsf - 10 Jan 2022 7:29 PM
those who believe in sky fairies are always about preserving life when it comes to abortion etc but seem to be happy to sacrifice and dismiss any covid death as 'pre existing conditions' (whatever the hell that even means when it's broken down)...as if that's enough and makes them feel better about to consigning their fellow citizens to a horrible fate....

Because someone has to ask the hard questions to follow the science -- even when people mock and insult.

“On Monday, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky finally admitted that an “overwhelming” number of Covid deaths that have been recorded in the US were individuals with multiple comorbidities which were a main contributing factor in their deaths.”

Walensky acknowledged the number during an interview with Good Morning America.

“The overwhelming number of deaths – over 75% – occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities, so really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/finally-cdc-director-walensky-admits-vast-majority-covid-deaths-not-one-not-two-not-three-least-four-comorbidities/


People, who make decisions based on science, must ask hard questions -- even when the mob mocks you for "consigning people to horribe fates".

It does sound like you made the decision on whether to take the jab -- not based on scientific data, but on emotionally driven reasons. From the way you argue, it certainly sounds like that. After all, the way a person thinks internally, is the same way that person argues externally.

THE SCIENCE says that there is little danger to children and babies. In contrast, what sort of emotionally-driven reasons can you think of for jabbing kids with a substance that the VAERS, DAEN and VigiAccess databases show historically extreme damage data? Fear is an emotion, and it makes people do things that wouldn't normally do based on rational science. I am a person of science.
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Captain Haddock - 11 Jan 2022 8:59 AM
Davide82 - 10 Jan 2022 10:31 AM

As did I. I plan to use it myself.

I dunno. Comparing double digit daily deaths to it being rainy outside is a bit callous. 

If we were to use this analogy, then it would be the Government telling people it might rain outside and then its a storm and not providing people with enough umbrellas/rain coats to buy. 
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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 9:45 AM
tsf - 10 Jan 2022 7:29 PM



People, who make decisions based on science, must ask hard questions -- even when the mob mocks you for "consigning people to horribe fates".
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You sound like a concentration camp leader. Pretty soon a headache is enough to warrant a pre existing condition - KIll them!

Also, if your stats are right (which I doubt) then over 1 million have died from covid - without any underlying condition. But that's all g. The big g upstairs has to take a few out every now and then. 
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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 9:45 AM
tsf - 10 Jan 2022 7:29 PM

Because someone has to ask the hard questions to follow the science -- even when people mock and insult.

“On Monday, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky finally admitted that an “overwhelming” number of Covid deaths that have been recorded in the US were individuals with multiple comorbidities which were a main contributing factor in their deaths.”


So if Covid was just the little straw that broke the camels back in a lot of these cases, are you happy to be the guy handing out straws?
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johnsmith - 10 Jan 2022 5:42 PM
tsf - 10 Jan 2022 1:27 PM

https://welovetrump.com/2022/01/08/dr-zelenko-zinc-is-the-bullet-the-only-problem-is-the-bullet-doesnt-get-to/



Sorry but just have to laugh at anyone posting anything from a URL that starts with www.welovetrump.com

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/10/fact-check-no-evidence-250000-vaxxed-americans-are-dead-from-covid-19-vaccine.html

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/10/fact-check-vaccine-death-report-does-not-show-credible-data.html

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/the-skeptical-scalpel-awards

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zelenko-669-coronavirus-patients/

But anyway...... (my emphasis added)

Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko (born 1973)[1] is a Ukrainian-American family physician and author known for promoting a three drug combination of hydroxychloroquine, zinc sulfate and azithromycin as part of an experimental outpatient treatment for COVID-19 that he has promoted as the Zelenko Protocol.

He has also promoted unfounded medical advice, conspiracy theories, and misinformation about COVID-19 vaccination.

[2]On March 23, 2020, Zelenko published an open letter to U.S. president Donald Trump where he claimed to have successfully treated hundreds of his COVID-19 patients with a 5 day course of his Protocol. Zelenko's treatment protocol quickly gained notoriety with several media figures and various Trump's administration officials promoting it, including Rudy Giuliani, and White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, despite cautionary messages from health experts.[3]


Etc etc....


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Davide82 - 11 Jan 2022 11:52 AM
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So if Covid was just the little straw that broke the camels back in a lot of these cases, are you happy to be the guy handing out straws?

No. Given your comments, I know you must think that of me. But it's not true.

I genuinely hope that friends will examine the science, and not take the boosters. Having said that, the TGA has tied our hands, and cut the bridges by banning Ivermectin. But you can still find details of the Zelenko protocol and FLCCC protocols which use Quercetin as a replacement for Ivermectin.


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Comparing the Google Covid curves for Australia vs South Africa’s Omicron.

ZA has more than double the population of AU.

Yet, ZA’s Omicron outbreak peaked at around 23,000 cases per day average.

Whereas Australia’s average is already around 70,000.

Early in the ZA Omicron outbreak, Dr John Campbell on YouTube predicted that ZA’s low vaccination rate — leading to higher natural immunity rate — would be to ZA’s benefit.

This ties in with Dr Geert Vanden Bossche prediction that the false practice of trying to vaccinate out of a pandemic, would backfire and lead to initial immunity against early strains - but ultimately to multiplying strains caused by vaccination, and poor immunity in the vaccinated population.

For this, Dr Geert Vanden Bossche is slandered by the Media — but, you can see, that is an “ad hominem” attack. Such personal attacks are so common among the Mainstream, rather than analysing the scientific arguments.
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Here's a tip dopey. Every time you want to link something, like your new mate Zelenko, stick 'debunked' at the end of your search string in Google. You'd be surprised at how easy it is to disprove anything you want to put up. Comically easy in fact.


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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 12:32 PM
Comparing the Google Covid curves for Australia vs South Africa’s Omicron.

ZA has more than double the population of AU.

Yet, ZA’s Omicron outbreak peaked at around 23,000 cases per day average.

Whereas Australia’s average is already around 70,000.

Early in the ZA Omicron outbreak, Dr John Campbell on YouTube predicted that ZA’s low vaccination rate — leading to higher natural immunity rate — would be to ZA’s benefit.

This ties in with Dr Geert Vanden Bossche prediction that the false practice of trying to vaccinate out of a pandemic, would backfire and lead to initial immunity against early strains - but ultimately to multiplying strains caused by vaccination, and poor immunity in the vaccinated population.

For this, Dr Geert Vanden Bossche is slandered by the Media — but, you can see, that is an “ad hominem” attack. Such personal attacks are so common among the Mainstream, rather than analysing the scientific arguments.

See.  It's 'super easy, barely an inconvenience' to quote the great man himself from youtube's 'Pitch Meetings' series..

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Dr+Geert+Vanden+Bossche+debunked&ia=web

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rebuttal-rosemary-frei-bossche-vaccination-concern/

https://medika.life/fact-checking-geert-vanden-bossche-cashing-in-on-covid-misinformation/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/countering-geert-vanden-bossches-dubious-viral-open-letter-warning-against-mass-covid-19-vaccination/

https://doctors4covidethics.org/rebuttal-to-geert-vanden-bossches-response-to-dr-bhakdi/ 

www.sciencebasedevidence.org is one of my favourite websites BTW.







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Munrubenmuz - 11 Jan 2022 12:45 PM
johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 12:32 PM

See.  It's 'super easy, barely an inconvenience' to quote the great man himself from youtube's 'Pitch Meetings' series..

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Dr+Geert+Vanden+Bossche+debunked&ia=web

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rebuttal-rosemary-frei-bossche-vaccination-concern/

https://medika.life/fact-checking-geert-vanden-bossche-cashing-in-on-covid-misinformation/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/countering-geert-vanden-bossches-dubious-viral-open-letter-warning-against-mass-covid-19-vaccination/

https://doctors4covidethics.org/rebuttal-to-geert-vanden-bossches-response-to-dr-bhakdi/ 

www.sciencebasedevidence.org is one of my favourite websites BTW.


You realise, in this era, each side has people "debunking" each other. That is why, the smart-operators look past the so-called debunking, and focus on the data.

Focus on the data --- that's my free tip for you.


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Must say 'The Zelenko Protocol' sounds like an excellent movie title. (Or a Robert Ludlum novel.)


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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 12:59 PM
Munrubenmuz - 11 Jan 2022 12:45 PM

You realise, in this era, each side has people "debunking" each other. That is why, the smart-operators look past the so-called debunking, and focus on the data.

Focus on the data --- that's my free tip for you.


Tell you what. Wait for us to post up some data and see if you can debunk it because at the moment it's all one way traffic from our end.


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Munrubenmuz - 11 Jan 2022 1:13 PM
Must say 'The Zelenko Protocol' sounds like an excellent movie title. (Or a Robert Ludlum novel.)

Doesn't hurt for you to check it out.

https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/treatment-protocol/

https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/prophylaxis-protocol/

Here's the FLCC protocols:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

Whatever your stance, at least recognise that the main difference is this: if a person gets Covid, the Mainstream approach is just to do nothing aside from taking a panadol, fluids and rest. Whereas, these protocols say, you need to hit Covid right from the start so it does not propagate and do harm to the body. That's logical, is it not?

The Mainstream say there are no medicines that work, whereas there are numerous doctors who've found good success with a range of medicines, that they deduced from their known properties.

Hey, it used to be a free world where each could decide -- but now, we live in a "no jab, no job" distopia. It is distopia because the majority of people are going along with that.
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Munrubenmuz - 11 Jan 2022 1:14 PM
johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 12:59 PM

Tell you what. Wait for us to post up some data and see if you can debunk it because at the moment it's all one way traffic from our end.

5.5 million people dead and johnsmith wants to look at data
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Early in the ZA Omicron outbreak, Dr John Campbell on YouTube predicted that ZA’s low vaccination rate — leading to higher natural immunity rate — would be to ZA’s benefit.

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Can you please provide a link to a video where he said that?  

I've been watching his videos for quite some time and don't recall him ever saying that.   He has on numerous occasions, however, stated that South Africa's high level of natural immunity would help protect against severe disease and death, like vaccines have been proven to do against omicron.  
 

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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 1:22 PM
Munrubenmuz - 11 Jan 2022 1:13 PM

Here's the FLCC protocols:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

Whatever your stance, at least recognise that the main difference is this: if a person gets Covid, the Mainstream approach is just to do nothing aside from taking a panadol, fluids and rest. Whereas, these protocols say, you need to hit Covid right from the start so it does not propagate and do harm to the body. That's logical, is it not?

Ahh yes the FLCCC protocols, based on a study by the authors retracted by the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine because they grossly misrepresented mortality figures.

I'll make the important bits big for you John, as we know you never bother reading anything properly, not even your own sources:

The article has been retracted after the journal received notice from Sentara Norfolk General Hospital in Norfolk, Virginia (“Sentara”) raising concerns about the accuracy of COVID-19 hospital mortality data reported in the article pertaining to Sentara. Sentara’s notice included the following statements:

‘The data from Sentara Norfolk General Hospital were presented in Table 2, which lists in-hospital or 28-day mortality rates at the 2 MATH+ centers as compared to 10 published single-center and multicenter reports. The mortality rate among 191 patients at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital as of July 20, 2020 was reported as 6.1%, as compared to mortality rates reported in the literature ranging from 15.6% to 32%. The authors state that these data “provide supportive clinical evidence for the physiologic rationale and efficacy of the MATH+ treatment protocol.”‘

‘The data from Sentara Norfolk General Hospital that [are] reported in this paper are inaccurate. The paper briefly states the methods as: “Available hospital outcome data for COVID-19 patients treated at these 2 hospitals as of July 20,2020 are provided in Table 2 including comparison to the published hospital mortality rates from multiple COVID-19 publications across the United States and the world.”‘

‘We have conducted a careful review of our data for patients with COVID-19 from March 22, 2020 to July 20, 2020, which shows that among the 191 patients referenced in Table 2 that the mortality rate was 10.5%, rather than 6.1%. In addition, of those 191 patients, only 73 patients (38.2%) received at least 1 of the 4 MATH+ therapies, and their mortality rate was 24.7%. Only 25 of 191 patients (13.1%) received all 4 MATH+ therapies, and their mortality rate was 28%.’

https://retractionwatch.com/2021/11/09/bad-math-covid-treatment-paper-by-pierre-kory-retracted-for-flawed-results/

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08850666211049062

Oh boy.....  Is the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine "the mainstream media" too? 

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"she’s been diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome, a rare neurological disorder, after she found herself unable to walk."

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/jenna-jameson-loses-ability-to-walk-diagnosed-with-guillainbarr-syndrome/news-story/ce9a35c0983d5d2fa6f3e07416c4b0af

When the Media says Guillain-Barré Syndrome is rare, what they mean is usually it is rare among society, however, the Media does not refer to the Pfizer data below, at page 21:

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

"Neurological AESIs: Most frequently reported relevant PTs ... included: Seizure (204), Epilepsy (83), Generalised tonic-clonic seizure (33), Guillain-Barre syndrome ..."

See how the Media writes things to make it seem as if it is no big deal?

Remember, this later Pfizer data was meant to be secret, until it was FORCED out of them by the Court under Freedom of Information. You were never meant to know this,

And, sadly to say, the majority of people follow along.
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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 4:06 PM
"she’s been diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome, a rare neurological disorder, after she found herself unable to walk."

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/jenna-jameson-loses-ability-to-walk-diagnosed-with-guillainbarr-syndrome/news-story/ce9a35c0983d5d2fa6f3e07416c4b0af

When the Media says Guillain-Barré Syndrome is rare, what they mean is usually it is rare among society, however, the Media does not refer to the Pfizer data below, at page 21:

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

"Neurological AESIs: Most frequently reported relevant PTs ... included: Seizure (204), Epilepsy (83), Generalised tonic-clonic seizure (33), Guillain-Barre syndrome ..."

See how the Media writes things to make it seem as if it is no big deal?

Remember, this later Pfizer data was meant to be secret, until it was FORCED out of them by the Court under Freedom of Information. You were never meant to know this,

And, sadly to say, the majority of people follow along.

On Monday, Jameson posted a videoposted a video confirming her diagnosis, thanking fans for their good wishes before writing: “I did NOT get the jab or any jab. This is NOT a reaction to the jab. Thank you for your concern.”


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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2022 2:15 PM

Can you please provide a link to a video where he said that?  

I've been watching his videos for quite some time and don't recall him ever saying that.   He has on numerous occasions, however, stated that South Africa's high level of natural immunity would help protect against severe disease and death, like vaccines have been proven to do against omicron.  
 
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natural immunity isn't a thing
its more likely the statistics out of South Africa are inaccurate whether it be for prior vaccinations underreported or cases underreported
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That's literally in the article but it's the last line.
There is a lot you can glean from that alone about you AND the media

I mean it's one thing to try to read studies you aren't capable of understanding and misinterpreting data but fuck me.

You tried to link a 10 line news.com article about a sick pornstar to vaccine damage when in those 10 lines she says she isn't vaccinated. 

You are a fucking idiot of the highest order and you are the worst type of idiot because you think you are smart and are infuriatingly smug about it. A shit quality even if you ARE more intelligent than the rest of the room.

You are a poor human being and are lucky you believe in a creator and not natural selection frankly Mr. "I follow the science oh and the earth is 6,000 years old".

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On Monday, Jameson posted a videoposted a video confirming her diagnosis, thanking fans for their good wishes before writing: “I did NOT get the jab or any jab. This is NOT a reaction to the jab. Thank you for your concern.”



Oh dear.  

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Whilst I don't expect John Smith to ever change his opinion on vaccines, it would be nice to think the last few months have thought him to actually read a link before he posts it.  

Pretty obvious it's easier to repeat the same drivel about how the rest of us are incapable of thinking for ourselves. 

That way he can keep his little cocoon of self-superiority on life support.  



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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2022 5:34 PM
Whilst I don't expect John Smith to ever change his opinion on vaccines, it would be nice to think the last few months have thought him to actually read a link before he posts it.  

Pretty obvious it's easier to repeat the same drivel about how the rest of us are incapable of thinking for ourselves. 

That way he can keep his little cocoon of self-superiority on life support.  


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Davide82 - 11 Jan 2022 4:17 PM
That's literally in the article but it's the last line.
There is a lot you can glean from that alone about you AND the media

I mean it's one thing to try to read studies you aren't capable of understanding and misinterpreting data but fuck me.

You tried to link a 10 line news.com article about a sick pornstar to vaccine damage when in those 10 lines she says she isn't vaccinated. 

You are a fucking idiot of the highest order and you are the worst type of idiot because you think you are smart and are infuriatingly smug about it. A shit quality even if you ARE more intelligent than the rest of the room.

You are a poor human being and are lucky you believe in a creator and not natural selection frankly Mr. "I follow the science oh and the earth is 6,000 years old".

Lol. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2022 5:34 PM
Whilst I don't expect John Smith to ever change his opinion on vaccines, it would be nice to think the last few months have thought him to actually read a link before he posts it.  

Pretty obvious it's easier to repeat the same drivel about how the rest of us are incapable of thinking for ourselves. 

That way he can keep his little cocoon of self-superiority on life support.  


Honestly, the best thing he could do now is simply say: "I don't trust COVID vaccines despite the evidence/support available. There is no long term study available since the vaccine was developed in 2 years. Despite pre-existing research, I want to see a long term study, etc etc..."
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Does anyone else literally just scroll straight by Johnsmiths responses?

I normally wouldn't be so publicly critical of someone's posts but I literally can't even be bothered reading a sentence without self acknowledging I'm wasting my life putting time into this.
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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2022 12:59 PM
Munrubenmuz - 11 Jan 2022 12:45 PM

That is why, the smart-operators look past the so-called debunking, and focus on the data.

I don't think any other sentence better surmises this bloke's thought processes than this one.  

The very existence of fields such as science is based on critical analysis, finding flaws or holes in data collection/methodology etc.  In short, not just accepting something at face value.  That's why peer review is so important.  

John Smith is only interested hearing what he wants to hear, and has an impressive knack of shutting off his mind to protect his ego when things go sour.  

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aussie pride - 11 Jan 2022 9:49 PM
Does anyone else literally just scroll straight by Johnsmiths responses?

I normally wouldn't be so publicly critical of someone's posts but I literally can't even be bothered reading a sentence without self acknowledging I'm wasting my life putting time into this.

Pretty much
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