Thanks.... a few positive noises from JJ but its been toooooooo long. If it doesn't happen soon there will be  nothing left to connect with.

Gold Coast Knights - NDS Dooooooomed from the start:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGSPjCCRMs&t=2018s

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/aafc-chairman-nick-galatas-im-very-gratified-the-a-leagues-are-now-supportive-of-us/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Great piece on Soccerscene with Nick Galatas....... seems like things are slowly bubbling away in the backrooms of power :)

Nick Galatas: Sports management consultants Klienmann Wang, through Anter, are the appointed resource by Football Australia to assist in bringing the existing FA management team in bringing the NSD to life. Anter’s been engaged by Football Australia to focus on its delivery.

Thanks for the link. Good read. We don't hear nearly enough from any of the parties involved with the NSD so it's always good to read something other than a token "we're in discussions with all stakeholders". 

Anectodotaly lots of conversations at NPL grounds around the traps seem to point to the fact that its a done deal for starting in Feb next year.....,,..... who knows wtf is going on?

Thanks for this, good to hear a viewpoint from someone who doesn't claim to have all of the answers.

One point that stood out is that the NSL died, it wasn't taken away or killed off prematurely. A certain few posters on here seem to forget that.

Not sure what you mean.
It was wound down by Lowy.  He was given a brief (and money) by the Commonwealth government to do whatever he wanted.  And he did it.
All round, it took over 18 months to complete the job, so that by the time the last ball was kicked in the NSL, the ethnic clubs were told point blank that they were not welcome in whatever was going to replace the NSL.

Frank had a few scores to settle.

I'm actually looking forward to the NSD.
At least Glory might be competitive and have a chance to win a few games.

Not sure if you read the newspaper or watch TV or whatever but the NSL hasn't been an active soccer league for 27 years...... You do know the difference between a league and the clubs that participate in a league I hope?  I assume AFL or NRL was your  point of reference  but in soccer, both here and basically every else in the world ( apart form 11 plastic franchises in Australia)  a club can go from being a Serie C to Series A club and back again . Sometimes a few times over a decade... But absoluteIy nobody would refer to a club like Juventus for example as a SerieB club just because they where relegated for one season....,, 
As for how Lowy got his revenge on everyone that humiliated him .... well that's another story but again not sure how it is relevant now. BOTH the NSL and Lowy are dead to Australian Soccer, why do people keep bringing them up?

But the shadow of Frank Lowy ( and his son ) still hangs over football in this country.
Thank goodness that someone the calibre of James Johnson is now slowly rectifying the things.

Does anyone else find it fascinating that nobody talks about Chris Nikou. People are happy to slam the Lowy's and happy to praise JJ, but Nikou gets no mention (good or bad) at all.

Have to say that the NSD has the potential to be a more interesting comp than the currently dire A League 

Wasn't   C.N   chairman    when   WU   were   given   their licence ?

You must be new to football so let me fill you in.

With Frank Lowy at the helm it was ‘my way or the highway ‘. He hired ‘yes men’ as CEOs, none from a football background.

The current chairman is obviously happy to let someone as credentialed as Johnson to advise him on administration matters. There is the difference, more consultation, more football ‘nous’.

Trying to run football along the same lines as shopping centres has got football in the mess it’s currently in.

Now THERE is a true football man.., Fat, Dumb Nick had an amazing 2 year career as a footballer at Malvern City and is currently eating his way around every NPL ground in Australia.,, A man of true integrity, surpassed only by Greg O'Rourke in stupidity and only by Frank Lowy, the grand satan himself, for sheer greed.

The federal government didn't beg for Lowy to come and help without reason, the NSL had been dead for all intents and purposes for years.
The amount of revisionism among bitters here is extraordinary.

How well do you think that regionals like Darwin, New England, Coffs Harbour, Wollongong  be able to join the comp once it starts

In terms of probability, big difference between Darwin and the Gong.

So, the fact we've had shit CEO's, shit coaches signing shit o/s players then using shit game plans, filling teams with unworthy local players and training like semi-professionals had nothing to do with the current situation the aleague is in.
The owners are the ones who should be blamed because they were and still are gutless wonders. If they wanted something better then they would've fought for it, way earlier.
Stop finding irrelevant excuses for why your life, your team or the game you follow for being crap. Look at other major sports, who have all had there low points, and see what they've done to get the arrow going in the right direction, unlike those currently in charge of the aleague.
Finally, if anyone out there thinks Paramount invested because they saw a potential pot of gold believes in fairies. Tax implications for future profit earnings.

Local Club from Coffs (not even a rep squad) were one game away from the round of 32 in the FA cup last year. I have no doubt they'd be competitive in the NSD1 or NSD2.

Whats extraordinary is new dawners bringing up the failures of the NSL as a reason why we shouldnt have a true football pyramid.
Just to protect the investment of foreigners in Australian Soccer.

mind you big end of town doesn't need to beg to the Feds for support in the first place...........

"2003: Frank Lowy takes over as FFA chairman

As a revamped national body is launched, the Westfield boss is appointed as its founding chairman, taking the role after being asked by Prime Minister John Howard.

He went about hand-picking the inaugural board and began setting out to reform the game in Australia."

The NSL right or wrong was in a mess at the top end for it had always had infighting (whats new) and at the same time struggle being accepted by anyone out of the game added by having 99% of the media against the game.
It wouldn't have died thats for sure in saying the above, it would have stumbled along.
It sure would have ended up having another re set with or without Lowy.
I didn't mind Lowy coming into running the game originally, having grown up through the Hakoah days watching I thought he would have understood what our game had underneath and develop robust P/R comps for the overall better of the game and our NT's ongoing future.
Instead his main  agenda was about $$$$$$ and revenge on the old admins and fellow NSL Clubs that opposed him.
Like Packer (mid you he done well with Limited Over cricket for the game lacked a "show" it didn't take away from test cricket), when you got the bucks you have no care what the calateral damage is left behind, worse in our small market battling against 2 major codes..

So basically what you are saying is that both the NSL and the Aleague(s) are absolute basket case, shit, competitions run only by dodgy, money hungry, self aggrandising fuckers with no thought towards improving the status of the sport of soccer in this country? I agree 100%
Im sad the NSL died in some ways but understand why it did and why it HAD too but Ill be ecstatic when the ISUZU UTES franchise leagues die .....  hopefully that's sooner rather than later.

well its far more complicated than expressed but you know what I mean.....
Both leagues have had their highs and lows, depending which high matters is one question.
NSL's high is its development what fumes the AL lived off in part......
Qualifying in 06 thanks to the wog/aussie gens that he turned his back on.
His legacy is the structure of a slim closed Pro league (kudos on the sponserships but that ain't rocket science with his pull) and appeasing to the fair wethered general mass's who as we've seen just come and go.
Especially once the "incentive's" dried up (ADP etcetc) and allowed idiots/non football people run the asylum.......
Top end management BOTH leagues been failures as we all can see But as many have said elsewhere the game will live on due to its large grass roots participation numbers.
IF our top end fails sooner or later ce la vie, all the more to add to Lowys legacy and current owners.

NSD will be a breath of fresh air we so desparately need BUT these fuckers up there better run it well and keep their fingers on the pulse of all the Clubs participating making sure it transitions well and the same time act fast and direct when there's a speed hump for no doubt there will be...........

Isn't there a year when the APL owners have to open up their league from memory ?
This and only then can we finally open the P/R system.

Spoken like a true AFL troll.

I generally ignore bots but here goes...

Mono, have you noticed that conversation tone and discourse level of this forum has plummeted, and a majority of the knowledgeable posters have left or rarely post, ever since you began mass spamming threads here? Are you self-aware enough to put that together or even care, I wonder.

It's a shame the Admins gave up on this place once it moved to Inside Sport, it was my favourite football community. Nowadays it's no different to TWGF when it was finally put down.

Oh Im self aware enough to appreciate that a dissenting opinion is not, despite your childish insults, "spamming". You certainly enjoyed a long period of time getting away with such aggressive anti "effnik sokkah" rhetoric yet are insulted by me disputing the New Dawn's (or are you all now nuevo new dawners, I cant keep up with the plastic jargon?) lies??? Why? Is my little robot spamming self responsible for the dwindling crowds or the dissolving tv audience for your plastic football as well? 
Grow up and defend your position if you can, its an online forum...
Lets see what logic you can use as to WHY a national second tier of soccer in this country will not benefit the whole of the sport.......

what's   a   "nuevo  new  dawner "  ?

Stop calling it Soccer FFS. You talk about Australia and America and their exclusive closed leagues , saying soccer is on a par with these closed leagues as you call them.