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StiflersMom
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Melbcityguy
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Footy tips might not be the best site they haven’t updated the games yet
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Melbcityguy
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Any ideas on the ratings for Monday night?
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TheRealFootballSupporter
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Wellington vs Sydney: 46k (Metro) ABC 19k Fox
Victory vs Brisbane: 26k Fox
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bettega
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Pretty good ratings for Fox (compared to last couple of years).
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Melbcityguy
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Anyone know the ratings?
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Eldar
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24k Fox 57k ABC 22k Melb Derby For comparison NBL 11k ESPN 17k SBS BBL 232k Fox
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TheRealFootballSupporter
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Will the NBL now start catching the A-League? Their season opener did 19k on ESPN
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Waz
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+xWill the NBL now start catching the A-League? Their season opener did 19k on ESPN How many did the A League do on Kayo?
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TheRealFootballSupporter
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+x+xWill the NBL now start catching the A-League? Their season opener did 19k on ESPN How many did the A League do on Kayo? Have No idea, do you?
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bettega
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+xWill the NBL now start catching the A-League? Their season opener did 19k on ESPN That's actually pretty good for the NBL, rarified air for them. Once upon a time, A-League got that easily for every game.
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TheRealFootballSupporter
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+x[quote]Will the NBL now start catching the A-League? Their season opener did 19k on ESPN
Hmm....
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Melbcityguy
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57k for abc is pretty high? Right??
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bettega
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+x57k for abc is pretty high? Right?? Is consistently around mid 50s I think. Back in the days when we were on SBS, we were regularly getting 100k+
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Melbcityguy
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Geez we don’t even make the top 20 Foxtel ratings anymore
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+xGeez we don’t even make the top 20 Foxtel ratings anymore people are fixated too much on TV ratings. Happy to discuss them, but i don’t take the numbers seriously anymore, how can you without all of the data? We are also in a season of transition and shouldn’t be expecting too much.
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bettega
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+xGeez we don’t even make the top 20 Foxtel ratings anymore We haven't been making the top 20 consistently for a long time now. Not that long ago, all the A-League games would make the the top 20. Anyway, just noticed how often Sky News makes the top 20 these days, sort of tells us where that demographic is at. Football fans have abandoned Foxtel, never to return..
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+x+xGeez we don’t even make the top 20 Foxtel ratings anymore We haven't been making the top 20 consistently for a long time now. Not that long ago, all the A-League games would make the the top 20. Anyway, just noticed how often Sky News makes the top 20 these days, sort of tells us where that demographic is at. Football fans have abandoned Foxtel, never to return.. Definitely agree on your last point.
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Waz
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+x+xGeez we don’t even make the top 20 Foxtel ratings anymore We haven't been making the top 20 consistently for a long time now. Not that long ago, all the A-League games would make the the top 20. Anyway, just noticed how often Sky News makes the top 20 these days, sort of tells us where that demographic is at. Football fans have abandoned Foxtel, never to return.. There is no reason for football fans to stay on FoxTel hey ... if you’re an AFL, NRL or Cricket fan you’ve got wall to wall coverage on FoxTel, your sport is covered in the news, there’s unique shows only available on FoxTel dedicated to your sport, the general sports magazine shows give additional coverage, and along with the live game itself you get a pre and post game show.
If you’re an A-League supporter you get the game itself and that’s it. So you can pay for the cheaper Kayo or pay three times as much for FoxSports ... it’s a no brainer.
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+xGeez we don’t even make the top 20 Foxtel ratings anymore Postponements will remedy the issue, just ask FA/APL. Marbles have surpassed A League.
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WSW V Newcastle - 10k
NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k
AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k
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Waz
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+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂
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+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago
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+xI'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago If you wanna compare the NBL with the AL, then you need to acknowledge that the NBL receives $0 from any TV deal and provide their own production for SBS and ESPN.
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+x+xI'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago If you wanna compare the NBL with the AL, then you need to acknowledge that the NBL receives $0 from any TV deal and provide their own production for SBS and ESPN. Does anyone know if other sports like Sailing have a strong deal with Fox? They seem to have a cult following here: 
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+x+xI'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago If you wanna compare the NBL with the AL, then you need to acknowledge that the NBL receives $0 from any TV deal and provide their own production for SBS and ESPN. Yep I know, but looks like they will get a $20 million a year deal with Stan soon.
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+xYep I know, but looks like they will get a $20 million a year deal with Stan soon. Thats nice. With as many as 5 bidders chasing the AL, we should be looking to double that amount. The minimum benchmark would be to top the $100 over 3 years Super Rugby got.
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Waz
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+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course.
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+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. “You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers.” That’s right.
And YOU don’t. Yet you draw conclusions that suit you.
O’Rourke said they were about 15k. Waz apparently knows better —- without knowing anything. Rinse and repeat.
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AJF
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+x+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. “You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers.” That’s right.
And YOU don’t. Yet you draw conclusions that suit you.
O’Rourke said they were about 15k. Waz apparently knows better —- without knowing anything. Rinse and repeat.
If AL was such a ratings winner on Kayo, why would Fox be offering it for free?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. “You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers.” That’s right.
And YOU don’t. Yet you draw conclusions that suit you.
O’Rourke said they were about 15k. Waz apparently knows better —- without knowing anything. Rinse and repeat.
If AL was such a ratings winner on Kayo, why would Fox be offering it for free? exactly unfortunately, for people like Waz, if you don't sign up for the conspiracy ratings echo chamber, youre not a real football fan, or pushing some secret agenda. life is weird in the age of trump groupthink
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. “You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers.” That’s right.
And YOU don’t. Yet you draw conclusions that suit you.
O’Rourke said they were about 15k. Waz apparently knows better —- without knowing anything. Rinse and repeat.
If AL was such a ratings winner on Kayo, why would Fox be offering it for free? It’s not offering the A League on Kayo for free.
You either know this but post that comment anyway, or you don’t know that?
Fox Sports have said they will allow some content from “tier two sports” to be broadcast for free. Not all of it, maybe a game per week ... why would they do that? Read the articles on the topic ...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. “You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers.” That’s right.
And YOU don’t. Yet you draw conclusions that suit you.
O’Rourke said they were about 15k. Waz apparently knows better —- without knowing anything. Rinse and repeat.
If AL was such a ratings winner on Kayo, why would Fox be offering it for free? It’s not offering the A League on Kayo for free.
You either know this but post that comment anyway, or you don’t know that?
Fox Sports have said they will allow some content from “tier two sports” to be broadcast for free. Not all of it, maybe a game per week ... why would they do that? Read the articles on the topic ... Sorry Waz, you are wrong, direct from Foxtel's website & link to article below: Selected A-League and WLeague games will also be available as Kayo Freebies https://www.foxtelmedia.com.au/news/kayo-sports-launches-game-changing-freebiesNo content from ratings "winners" like AFL, NRL or cricket is available on the "Freebies" channel because that is content people pay for and has large subscriber numbers. You can try and spin it anyway you like, but if AL Kayo numbers were that great on Kayo, Fox would not be giving any away for free.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. “You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers.” That’s right.
And YOU don’t. Yet you draw conclusions that suit you.
O’Rourke said they were about 15k. Waz apparently knows better —- without knowing anything. Rinse and repeat.
If AL was such a ratings winner on Kayo, why would Fox be offering it for free? It’s not offering the A League on Kayo for free.
You either know this but post that comment anyway, or you don’t know that?
Fox Sports have said they will allow some content from “tier two sports” to be broadcast for free. Not all of it, maybe a game per week ... why would they do that? Read the articles on the topic ... Sorry Waz, you are wrong, direct from Foxtel's website & link to article below: Selected A-League and WLeague games will also be available as Kayo Freebies https://www.foxtelmedia.com.au/news/kayo-sports-launches-game-changing-freebiesNo content from ratings "winners" like AFL, NRL or cricket is available on the "Freebies" channel because that is content people pay for and has large subscriber numbers. You can try and spin it anyway you like, but if AL Kayo numbers were that great on Kayo, Fox would not be giving any away for free. They are making some games free to try and grow the audience. AFL and NRL have lots of games on FTA so there isn't any point making games free to grow the audience.
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AJF
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. “You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers.” That’s right.
And YOU don’t. Yet you draw conclusions that suit you.
O’Rourke said they were about 15k. Waz apparently knows better —- without knowing anything. Rinse and repeat.
If AL was such a ratings winner on Kayo, why would Fox be offering it for free? It’s not offering the A League on Kayo for free.
You either know this but post that comment anyway, or you don’t know that?
Fox Sports have said they will allow some content from “tier two sports” to be broadcast for free. Not all of it, maybe a game per week ... why would they do that? Read the articles on the topic ... Sorry Waz, you are wrong, direct from Foxtel's website & link to article below: Selected A-League and WLeague games will also be available as Kayo Freebies https://www.foxtelmedia.com.au/news/kayo-sports-launches-game-changing-freebiesNo content from ratings "winners" like AFL, NRL or cricket is available on the "Freebies" channel because that is content people pay for and has large subscriber numbers. You can try and spin it anyway you like, but if AL Kayo numbers were that great on Kayo, Fox would not be giving any away for free. They are making some games free to try and grow the audience. AFL and NRL have lots of games on FTA so there isn't any point making games free to grow the audience. thats the point, if the Kayo figures for AL were so great (and according to some better than AFL or NRL) why do they need to grow it? With AFL and NRL ratings, the games which are shown on FTA and Fox simultaneously have Fox ratings AL would kill for so no need to grow it as they are getting their return
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+x+x+x+xWSW V Newcastle - 10k NBL Phoenix vs Wildcats - 10k AFLW St Kilda vs WB - 40k If you haven’t got the Kayo ratings you haven’t got the ratings.
But you can keep pushing this narrow but it’s right up there with Trumps “KO-VID is a hoax” commentary 😂 I'm not pushing anything.. just highlighting that the NBL is closing the gap (on par in Friday nights case) in satellite ratings with the A-League... which would have been unheard of just a few years ago You don’t know anything if you don’t know the Kayo numbers. The preferred viewing platform for football supporters is Kayo not Fox Sports so without those numbers you can’t draw any conclusions .... unless you are pushing something of course. What am I pushing exactly? I hope the A-League Kayo ratings are big...all we can currently go off is O'Rourke's 15k average a game comment last season.
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Bloody hell, a wanderers game right down there with the NBL.
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WU vs Victory - ABC 52k Fox 22k
Macarthur vs Sydney - Fox 22k
Brisbane vs Adelaide - Fox 24k
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Who the hell would ever watch a sailing race?
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I think that's right, that we should have the expectation of matching whatever Super Rugby got.
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Hopefully people start watching the football has been great this season
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A-League: Adelaide vs Perth 23k Fox
NBL: 23k Fox
AFLW: 32k Fox
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+xA-League: Adelaide vs Perth 23k Fox NBL: 23k Fox AFLW: 32k Fox 23k is pretty good compared to recent history. The NBL getting 23k is massive for them, close to a record. The AFLW is declining compared to first couple of weeks of ratings.
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We don't have much info to go on, but I think it's fair to say that only "2nd tier" sports are being given away for free.
Is it possible to jump from 2nd tier to 1st tier if it's free?
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+xWe don't have much info to go on, but I think it's fair to say that only "2nd tier" sports are being given away for free. Is it possible to jump from 2nd tier to 1st tier if it's free? Sorry no pro/rel of any kind allowed between tiers in Unique Australian Football 😎
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CCM vs WU - 32k
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Wow the first match that made the Foxtel top 20 ratings for the season. Nobody would of guessed it’ll be a mariners match
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+xWow the first match that made the Foxtel top 20 ratings for the season. Nobody would of guessed it’ll be a mariners match No, we made the top 20 the previous night with 24k for Macarthur vs WSW. Sat night: | 1 | LIVE: BBL: FINAL SIXERS V SCORCHERS | FOX CRICKET | 352,000 | | 2 | LIVE: BBL: FINAL SIXERS V SCORCHERS | FOX CRICKET | 336,000 | | 3 | LIVE: BETWEEN THE INNINGS | FOX CRICKET | 330,000 | | 4 | LIVE: BBL POST GAME | FOX CRICKET | 281,000 | | 5 | LIVE: B4 THE BASH! | FOX CRICKET | 98,000 | | 6 | FOX CRICKET CLASSICS BBL | FOX CRICKET | 77,000 | | 7 | DEATH IN PARADISE | BBC First | 57,000 | | 8 | DEATH IN PARADISE | BBC First | 47,000 | | 9 | LIVE: AFLW: MELBOURNE V RICHMOND | FOX FOOTY | 43,000 | | 10 | LIVE: AFLW: COLLINGWOOD V GEELONG | FOX FOOTY | 40,000 | | 11 | GRAND DESIGNS AUSTRALIA | Lifestyle Channel | 31,000 | | 12 | LIVE: RACEDAY SATURDAY | Sky Racing | 30,000 | | 13 | SELLING HOUSES AUSTRALIA | Lifestyle Channel | 28,000 | | 14 | SELLING HOUSES AUSTRALIA | Lifestyle Channel | 26,000 | | 15 | DEATH IN PARADISE | BBC First | 25,000 | | 16 | LIVE: IND V ENG 1ST TEST DAY 2 | FOX CRICKET | 25,000 | | 17 | LIVE: A-LEAGUE MACARTHUR FC V WSW | FOX SPORTS 505 | 24,000 |
Sun night: | 1 | OUTSIDERS | Sky News Live | 65,000 | | 2 | OUTSIDERS | Sky News Live | 65,000 | | 3 | LIVE: AFLW: GWS V ADELAIDE | FOX FOOTY | 46,000 | | 4 | LIVE: IND V ENG 1ST TEST DAY 3 | FOX CRICKET | 40,000 | | 5 | LIVE: AFLW: BRISBANE V GOLD COAST | FOX FOOTY | 38,000 | | 6 | PAUL MURRAY LIVE | Sky News Live | 38,000 | | 7 | 24 HOURS IN EMERGENCY | Lifestyle Channel | 35,000 | | 8 | LIVE: AFLW: NORTH MELBOURNE V ST KILDA | FOX FOOTY | 34,000 | | 9 | LOVE YOUR GARDEN | Lifestyle Channel | 33,000 | | 10 | AFLW: NORTH MELBOURNE V ST KILDA | FOX FOOTY | 33,000 | | 11 | OUTBACK TRUCKERS | A&E | 33,000 | | 12 | CHRIS SMITH TONIGHT | Sky News Live | 32,000 | | 13 | SHARRI | Sky News Live | 32,000 | | 14 | LIVE: A-LEAGUE C COAST V WESTERN UNITED | FOX SPORTS 505 | 32,000 |
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Games from Monday and Tuesday failed to make top 20, which is surprising, it cut out at 26k and 27k.
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WSW v Victory didn't make the top 20 of the fox ratings, which cut out at 23k (the Adventures of Paddington).
Once again, you'd expect the two biggest clubs in the land to be able to reach 23k.
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Just checking the Fox ratings for yesterday, no A-League game cracked the top 20, cutting out at 24k with NCIS and Blue Bloods.
No surprise that no one wants to watch the Victory at the moment.
The thing about yesterday is that no other sport was on, that I can see, except three AFL womens games made the top 20, not with particularly high ratings mind you.
Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne came 6th with 41,000.
Even the Giants made it to 10th with 30k.
But no A-League.
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+xJust checking the Fox ratings for yesterday, no A-League game cracked the top 20, cutting out at 24k with NCIS and Blue Bloods. No surprise that no one wants to watch the Victory at the moment.The thing about yesterday is that no other sport was on, that I can see, except three AFL womens games made the top 20, not with particularly high ratings mind you. Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne came 6th with 41,000. Even the Giants made it to 10th with 30k. But no A-League. really? the biggest club in the country cannot attract 20k viewers? i'm surprised by that. it's terrible
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+xJust checking the Fox ratings for yesterday, no A-League game cracked the top 20, cutting out at 24k with NCIS and Blue Bloods. No surprise that no one wants to watch the Victory at the moment. The thing about yesterday is that no other sport was on, that I can see, except three AFL womens games made the top 20, not with particularly high ratings mind you. Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne came 6th with 41,000. Even the Giants made it to 10th with 30k. But no A-League. And still people think that playing in the clean air of summer will lead to broadcast gold. SFC/BRI was 20k on Fox, and for what its worth, the a-league games all trend above AFLW games and generally at No.1, so I guess our smaller audiences are far more engaged than AFLW or Super Rugby audiences. Either that or TV ratings just aren't an accurate indication of how many or how people watch TV anymore.
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Grand final rematch tonight. Has anyone seen any ads?
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+xGrand final rematch tonight. Has anyone seen any ads? Was there a game on?
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Super Cars dominated the weekend of sport, so no A-League games made the top 20.
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At what point do ratings on Foxtel for sports, outside the major promoted sports ,become irrelevant? When Foxtel have openly stated they are not interested in Football,Rugby and ‘minor’ sports,who are the football fans that still have Foxtel?
Those that have strong connections with AFL ,NRL and Cricket no doubt.
I am sure most ,except those with the full Foxtel package have moved elsewhere.
What are the Rugby ratings now there is no Rugby on Foxtel?
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+xAt what point do ratings on Foxtel for sports, outside the major promoted sports ,become irrelevant? When Foxtel have openly stated they are not interested in Football,Rugby and ‘minor’ sports,who are the football fans that still have Foxtel?
Those that have strong connections with AFL ,NRL and Cricket no doubt.
I am sure most ,except those with the full Foxtel package have moved elsewhere.
What are the Rugby ratings now there is no Rugby on Foxtel?
Once something ends up on a streaming service, the word "ratings" is never uttered again (and when that time comes for the A-League, perhaps we can all breathe a sigh of relief). With Fox, it's a classic chicken and egg case. They're not supporting it, so no surprise there are no ratings, but equally, ratings are so poor, you'd have to question why they would want to promote the A-L to the upper echelon of their sports offering.
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Neither A-League game made it in Foxtel's top 20 for yesterday, cut out at 28k.
Top 5 completely dominated by the NRL, Raiders v Tigers got 259k.
Two AFL womens games made the top 20, best was in 10th spot with 43k (Brisbane v Collingwood)
NRL on Foxtel STV boxes rated 2.022m for R1, up 16.27% on R1, 2020 and the highest rating R1 on Fox since 2018.
R1 of the 2021 NRL season was watched by 3.844m viewers on 9 and Foxtels traditional networks. (a further 152,000 watched Thursday night footy on Fox Go/NOW/Kayo). This figure is up 4.7% on R1 2020, due to a big increase in Foxtel ratings.(+16%).
As of next weekend, all four national football comps are up and running.
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From Inside Sport article: Last Saturday’s TV ratings results saw 89,000 fans tuning in across two A-League games. The NSW derby between Sydney FC and Newcastle drew 54,000 on the ABC with another 13,000 watching on Fox Sports, while traditional rivals Melbourne Victory v Adelaide attracted 22,000 on Fox Sports. By comparison, the three NRL games on Saturday rated well on Fox Sports with NZ Warriors and Gold Coast attracting 170,000, Sydney Roosters and Manly 233,000, while Penrith and North Queensland had 265,000 viewers. Even the Super Rugby game between Queensland and ACT had 85,000 viewers on 9GEM. The AFLW game between Melbourne and Adelaide also outrated the A-League with 83,000 fans watching on 7Mate and Fox Footy. Also on Fox Footy, North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs attracted 37,000 fans while St Kilda v GWS had 27,000 fans. The AFL season kicks off this weekend with some blockbuster matches expected to further impact on A-League numbers. A few club owners and CEO’s were contacted for comment but declined to do so given the confidential nature of the current in progress TV deal. It is understood that Stan Sports are firming as favourites to get the TV rights, with a free-to-air channel reportedly ‘interested.’ Amazon and SportsFlick are also considered contenders. Fox Sports looks likely to lose its 16 year partnership with the A-League.
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Melbourne Victory v Adelaide R12 Mini rated 28,000 (replay) last night.
The live game rated below cutoff at 28k.
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yeh, just noticed that, mini replay actually out-rated the live game and made last night's top 20: | 17 | A-LEAGUE MINI: MVC V ADL RND12 | FOX SPORTS 503 | 28,000 | | 18 | AFTERNOON AGENDA | Sky News Live | 27,000 | | 19 | PAW PATROL | Nick Jr. | 26,000 | | 20 | DOC MARTIN | UKTV | 26,000 |
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+xyeh, just noticed that, mini replay actually out-rated the live game and made last night's top 20: | 17 | A-LEAGUE MINI: MVC V ADL RND12 | FOX SPORTS 503 | 28,000 | | 18 | AFTERNOON AGENDA | Sky News Live | 27,000 | | 19 | PAW PATROL | Nick Jr. | 26,000 | | 20 | DOC MARTIN | UKTV | 26,000 |
That’s interesting
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Hmmm very interesting, if it's rating 28k on fox box ratings the minis must be doing pretty well on Kayo itself
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So do they not have minis for NRL or AFL, why do these minis never feature?
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+xSo do they not have minis for NRL or AFL, why do these minis never feature? they do and have over the last few months. same with cricket
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Massive NRL ratings in Rd 1, across all platforms, including Kayo, from TV Blackbox: NRL was back with a bang on Fox League with Round One of the 2021 season, becoming the all-time highest rating opening round in subscription television history and the second-highest rating NRL Round ever with an audience average of 372,000, up 28% on R1 2020. All Foxtel Group platforms saw significant growth, with Foxtel broadcast audiences up 14% and streaming on Kayo, Foxtel Now, Foxtel GO up 74%. Thursday night’s season opener featuring the Storm v Rabbitohs was the number one game for the round with an average audience of 487,000. The season opener was the highest rating Round One match ever and the highest rating Thursday night match ever. Friday night’s Broncos v Eels clash drew the next largest number of viewers, with an average audience of 429,000.
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+xMassive NRL ratings in Rd 1, across all platforms, including Kayo, from TV Blackbox: NRL was back with a bang on Fox League with Round One of the 2021 season, becoming the all-time highest rating opening round in subscription television history and the second-highest rating NRL Round ever with an audience average of 372,000, up 28% on R1 2020. All Foxtel Group platforms saw significant growth, with Foxtel broadcast audiences up 14% and streaming on Kayo, Foxtel Now, Foxtel GO up 74%. Thursday night’s season opener featuring the Storm v Rabbitohs was the number one game for the round with an average audience of 487,000. The season opener was the highest rating Round One match ever and the highest rating Thursday night match ever. Friday night’s Broncos v Eels clash drew the next largest number of viewers, with an average audience of 429,000. And yet none of the minis made it into the top 20, interesting.
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+x+xMassive NRL ratings in Rd 1, across all platforms, including Kayo, from TV Blackbox: NRL was back with a bang on Fox League with Round One of the 2021 season, becoming the all-time highest rating opening round in subscription television history and the second-highest rating NRL Round ever with an audience average of 372,000, up 28% on R1 2020. All Foxtel Group platforms saw significant growth, with Foxtel broadcast audiences up 14% and streaming on Kayo, Foxtel Now, Foxtel GO up 74%. Thursday night’s season opener featuring the Storm v Rabbitohs was the number one game for the round with an average audience of 487,000. The season opener was the highest rating Round One match ever and the highest rating Thursday night match ever. Friday night’s Broncos v Eels clash drew the next largest number of viewers, with an average audience of 429,000. And yet none of the minis made it into the top 20, interesting. Just read this post. It isn't interesting at all. I'll explain. No one wants to watch a full replay of an aleague game, because it's mostly boring, so , they watch the mini. I'm sure you know this, but, like politicians who dance around an answering a question, you didn't want to state the obvious.
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+x+x+xMassive NRL ratings in Rd 1, across all platforms, including Kayo, from TV Blackbox: NRL was back with a bang on Fox League with Round One of the 2021 season, becoming the all-time highest rating opening round in subscription television history and the second-highest rating NRL Round ever with an audience average of 372,000, up 28% on R1 2020. All Foxtel Group platforms saw significant growth, with Foxtel broadcast audiences up 14% and streaming on Kayo, Foxtel Now, Foxtel GO up 74%. Thursday night’s season opener featuring the Storm v Rabbitohs was the number one game for the round with an average audience of 487,000. The season opener was the highest rating Round One match ever and the highest rating Thursday night match ever. Friday night’s Broncos v Eels clash drew the next largest number of viewers, with an average audience of 429,000. And yet none of the minis made it into the top 20, interesting. Just read this post. It isn't interesting at all. I'll explain. No one wants to watch a full replay of an aleague game, because it's mostly boring, so , they watch the mini. I'm sure you know this, but, like politicians who dance around an answering a question, you didn't want to state the obvious. Nobody is watching NRL or AFL mini’s because they already watched the live game.The reverse is true for A -League. I’m surprised there isnt a highlights package,as everyone grew up watching Premier League highlights and loved it.
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+x+x+xMassive NRL ratings in Rd 1, across all platforms, including Kayo, from TV Blackbox: NRL was back with a bang on Fox League with Round One of the 2021 season, becoming the all-time highest rating opening round in subscription television history and the second-highest rating NRL Round ever with an audience average of 372,000, up 28% on R1 2020. All Foxtel Group platforms saw significant growth, with Foxtel broadcast audiences up 14% and streaming on Kayo, Foxtel Now, Foxtel GO up 74%. Thursday night’s season opener featuring the Storm v Rabbitohs was the number one game for the round with an average audience of 487,000. The season opener was the highest rating Round One match ever and the highest rating Thursday night match ever. Friday night’s Broncos v Eels clash drew the next largest number of viewers, with an average audience of 429,000. And yet none of the minis made it into the top 20, interesting. Just read this post. It isn't interesting at all. I'll explain. No one wants to watch a full replay of an aleague game, because it's mostly boring, so , they watch the mini. I'm sure you know this, but, like politicians who dance around an answering a question, you didn't want to state the obvious. Right, so AFL and NRL full replays aren't boring but mini replays are, gotch ya. You are so smart.
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INteresting article from the SMH about broadcast rights. It is predominantly about the NFL US experience, but it does mention the A-League and some of the streaming services we might be interested in: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/why-nfl-s-100-billion-broadcast-deal-is-great-news-for-nrl-afl-20210322-p57cx5.html?fbclid=IwAR0DiGwyAeBWWlh7S1q-C5iBPhHHerN5rIOJ6u-eJUEEDF7TqCE4mgh9_icA record broadcast rights deal for the NFL in the US demonstrates that sport is still the axis on which the TV world turns. Despite Nine’s former chief executive, Hugh Marks, claiming “it’s not a given that NRL has to be part of our future”, the $US100 billion ($129 billion) 11-year deal signed over the weekend between the major US broadcasters and the NFL shows networks can’t exist without leading sports. “This is good news for the NRL and AFL,” says one of Australia’s top sports rights advisors, Colin Smith of Global Media and Sports. While the pandemic forced a renegotiation of TV rights in Australia and created an expectation the fees paid by broadcasters would fall globally, Smith argues there are two exceptions: where a sport is a nation’s unique or dominant game (AFL in Australia, NFL in the US, IPL in India), or where it is the dominant nation for a sport (NRL in Australia, NBA in the US, EPL in England). “In Australia, we have two world-class leagues in the AFL and NRL that are ‘must watch’ across media platforms that fans passionately follow,” he said. Smith’s analysis is bad news for Australian rugby, which is seventh in the international rankings. The A-League is ranked the 11th league in Asia behind countries like Iraq, Iran, Thailand, UAE and Uzbekistan. “The COVID-19 interrupted 2020 season proved that even without crowds attending games in Australia, fan interest on TV across both codes was very strong,” Smith said. “What this means for the NRL and AFL is the value of their media rights will continue to be very strong and likely to grow in a competitive market.” The NFL deal is both stratospheric in terms of the dollars involved and the long-term commitment of broadcasters. The $US100 billion-plus agreement is a doubling of the value of NFL rights; beginning in 2023 and to be shared across the traditional linear broadcasters of CBS, NBC, Fox, ESPN and ABC. It will be broadcast on free-to-air TV, pay TV and streaming platforms. Amazon Prime is the new broadcast entrant, buying the 18-game NFL Thursday Football Package for the first time on its streaming service. This is Amazon’s largest investment globally in sports media rights, spending about $US1 billion per year. While very significant, it represents only 10.5 per cent of the total value of the NFL media rights. Meanwhile, in Australia, streaming appears the platform of the future, with Foxtel’s Kayo promoting NRL and AFL games, and Nine Entertainment’s Stan Sport showing the majority of its Rugby Australia games. Yet Amazon Prime’s contribution to the NFL deal is the equivalent of only $36m a year in terms of the NRL’s original $1.9 billion five-year contract. The NRL has extended its pay-TV rights with Fox until 2027 for an undisclosed fee, although ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys revealed it represents about two-thirds of the code’s broadcast income. It is not known whether exclusivity of streaming rights is part of the deal. V’landys is poised to enter negotiations for the sale of NRL free-to-air rights, with the current renegotiated arrangement expiring at the end of next season. The Australian view that FTA rights are a diminishing proportion of broadcasting fees is at odds with the NFL experience, where the chief executive of CBS Entertainment, George Cheeks, described American football as “must-have content that stands above the crowd in a fragmented television universe”. Smith says: “In negotiations with FTA broadcasters, if I were the NRL I would be using the ‘NFL Playbook’, stressing it is a must-have product and also be seeking offers for FTA packages over an extended term across free content and pay content for terms extended to 2030 and beyond.” A decision by the federal government to delay a review of the anti-siphoning list until April 2023 means FTA networks continue to have first choice of NRL and AFL, although it has already relaxed those rules with Australian cricket ODIs, now broadcast exclusively by Foxtel/Kayo. Fox chief Patrick Delany has implied Kayo Freebies, which gives subscribers access to top sports for no extra charge, satisfies the current legislation. Similarly that would apply to Amazon Prime if it bids for all or part of the FTA rights for the NRL. Channel Ten, which telecast NRL and AFL more than a decade ago, is now the third FTA network in the nation.
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It's Roy Masters, he always talks up the NRL value. Probably has a fair point about the A-league being the 7th best league in Asia diminishing its value though. This is why the salary cap is self defeating and why unless the league starts to develop world class talent again it could be just treading water until implosion.
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A major difference between NFL,AFL & NRL, is that AFL & NRL are not dominant throughout Australia.
NRL is QLD and NSW and the AFL is the rest.That surely is an issue for FTA,when you cant own both.
NFL dont have that issue and can sell advertising to the whole of the USA.
In Australia how does an advertiser get the same bang for its buck?
Thats one advantage Football does have.If only it can drive up interest.
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Do we know who the AL bidders are? The only ones acknowledging it publicly is Stan Sports. While some corners of the media are saying Fox Sports (although that is more than likely to be strategic than legitimate). There has been no acknowledgement from Optus Sport at all yet. But that doesn't mean they won't come over the top at the last minute.
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Minis are even more popular in this modern world because of the extremely short attention span of young people, who have trouble watching more than 3 minutes of any one thing.
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+xMinis are even more popular in this modern world because of the extremely short attention span of young people, who have trouble watching more than 3 minutes of any one thing. Mini matches on Optus are great mate.... even for the oldies.... Can honestly say I have been able to sit through even 20 mins of Manure or Chelski matches this season snd can get a whole round of football viewing done on a Tuesday night after work... Still watch the Liverpool game in full and of course South Melb game in person most other NPL games in full on youtube, either live or replay as many are played at same time this year... but for EPL and Euro WC qualifiers, mini matches are awesome....
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The NRL's Fox ratings so far this year, including Kayo, are extraordinary.
Sports Industry tweet:
If your playing at home, NRL R1 had a Fox group audience average of 372,000 (streaming ~116k ave), up 28% on R1 2020. The AFL R1 had a Fox group audience average of 238,000 (streaming ~84k ave), pretty much in line with 2020.
Streaming number includes Kayo and Foxtel Go; it's a fraction under half the Foxtel rating (for the NRL).
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I don't believe that figure.
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Was reading the Guardian Article on MLS expansion and found below link re US TV rights and found it really interesting. Some key exerts below: https://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2018/2/8/16973944/soccer-united-marketing-sum-us-soccer-presidential-election-kathy-carter What the hell is Soccer United Marketing? U.S. Soccer sells its TV and sponsorship rights to a sports marketing company run by MLS owners. Here’s why that matters and how it affects the presidential election. By Kim McCauley@lgbtqfc SUM is a sports marketing company and the commercial arm of Major League Soccer. Its owners are the league’s club owners. It holds the rights to market U.S. national team TV broadcasts and sponsorships through 2022. As MLS has grown in stature and the U.S. national teams’ progress has slowed considerably, SUM has become an American soccer bogeyman. It’s not particularly strange for a federation to sell its rights to a sports marketing company, but what is unconventional about this arrangement is that SUM packages U.S. Soccer’s rights with MLS rights and sells them together. That raises questions about whether U.S. Soccer is getting maximum value for its product or is being used to prop up MLS instead. Detractors of the partnership between U.S. Soccer and SUM — including the former second division North American Soccer League, which is suing USSF — believe that the dealings between the two organizations are an example of cronyism at its worst, redirecting money that should go to the women’s national team, player development, and underfunded programs into the pockets of MLS owners. The defenders of U.S. Soccer’s partnership with SUM — Gulati, Garber, and Carter chief among them — believe the deal has benefited all parties greatly and has been an engine for growth at all levels of soccer. SUM went on to take over U.S. Soccer’s marketing out of necessity at a time when there appeared to be little money to be made off the national teams. “Our master licensee at that time in 2002 was a joint venture between Nike and IMG,” Gulati said at his United Soccer Coaches convention panel, “and IMG wanted out.” SUM took over the deal in 2004, and it has been renewed three times since. SUM is why MLS can charge a $150 million expansion feeAfter paying a $150 million expansion fee, spending somewhere in the nine figures on a stadium and other facilities, and paying staff for multiple years before a team gets on the field, an MLS owner will be left with a team seemingly worth less than what was spent to get it off the ground. On top of that, most MLS teams report losing money year over year. So why buy in? There’s a strong argument that it’s to get an equity stake in SUM, something currently much more valuable than an MLS team itself. Here’s an excerpt from a Forbes piece on MLS team valuations regarding SUM’s rapid growth: Providence bought a 25% stake of SUM in 2012 for $150 million, valuing the property at $600 million. The recent sale of Providence’s remaining 20% stake – its holding had been diluted by the league’s expansion – was for a little over $400 million, valuing SUM at more than $2 billion, or a nearly 250% increase over the last five years.
A $150 million expansion fee for an MLS team is a bad deal, but a $150 million fee for an MLS team and an equity stake in SUM, one could argue, is a bargain. “The operations of SUM are not intended just to make a lot of money, but to create a lot of money” for its partners, Carter said, insisting that SUM is not just a business that exists to make money for its stakeholders, but an organization intended to grow soccer in America. In an interview with Grant Wahl at Sports Illustrated, Garber notes that the structure of the deal, which guarantees U.S. Soccer the same payment every year, allows the organization to “invest more deeply in the growth of the sport at all levels and to engage in long-term planning based on a guaranteed consistent cash flow.”. Wynalda agrees with Solo that SUM is primarily used to make money from non-MLS soccer, then put it into MLS. “Looking at where that money is coming from, it’s not coming from MLS, but it’s going to MLS through the Mexican national team and other contracts,” he said.
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Haven't seen an A-League rating for a while, this article shows last night's rating: https://www.mediaweek.com.au/weekend-tv-ratings-saturday-april-9/A-League Fox Sports #MACvBRIS 13,000
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you could show a fish tank screensaver and get higher ratings than 13k.
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ALeague Fox Sports #ADLvWSW 19,000
#SYDvMCY 11,000
#NEWvMVC 10,000
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No A-League in the top 20 yesterday, which cuts out at 29k.
W-League grand final didn't make it either. Haven't seen what the ratings were on ABC, but I'm expecting them to be decent.
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The numbers are just messy to read, but this season is a write off really and really not going to get better. The product on the park has been one of the best seasons yet, and that’s operating on a reduced budget. It goes to show that money isn’t everything, but we really need better cut through to truly build excitement.
Clubs need to work with fans groups, reconnect with their communities and rebuild from ground up. Get the marketing model right on top of that, and we can truly see things move in the right direction.
Right now, many formerly diehard fans just couldn’t care less these days, and there are many reasons for that, and it’s not just because there’s only 12 teams playing each other each year. Until we can get those fans back on board, it’s going to be hard work, as they are those that have shown they can bring enthusiasm and connection in the past.
We need to get rid of the negativity and try and build enthusiasm. The game and the brand had become toxic and will need significant work to rebuild.
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Never did find out what the W-League grand final rated.
Important to keep track of this sort of data in the lead up to hosting the WC.
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In slightly better news for MV the match rated 11k on fox so nobody watched it.
8k for the Western United Tassie adventure.
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+xIn slightly better news for MV the match rated 11k on fox so nobody watched it. 8k for the Western United Tassie adventure. 50k watched the South Melbourne game on community TV at the Hellas Club.
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+x+xIn slightly better news for MV the match rated 11k on fox so nobody watched it. 8k for the Western United Tassie adventure. 50k watched the South Melbourne game on community TV at the Hellas Club. Thats a great effort!
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+x+xIn slightly better news for MV the match rated 11k on fox so nobody watched it. 8k for the Western United Tassie adventure. 50k watched the South Melbourne game on community TV at the Hellas Club. No about 4k in youtube and probably 6 to 7k (I'm told) on Facebook https://m.youtube.com/user/NPLVictoria/videos
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+x+x+xIn slightly better news for MV the match rated 11k on fox so nobody watched it. 8k for the Western United Tassie adventure. 50k watched the South Melbourne game on community TV at the Hellas Club. No about 4k in youtube and probably 6 to 7k (I'm told) on Facebook https://m.youtube.com/user/NPLVictoria/videos So less than that fall asleep to the test tube pattern?
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+x+x+x+xIn slightly better news for MV the match rated 11k on fox so nobody watched it. 8k for the Western United Tassie adventure. 50k watched the South Melbourne game on community TV at the Hellas Club. No about 4k in youtube and probably 6 to 7k (I'm told) on Facebook https://m.youtube.com/user/NPLVictoria/videos So less than that fall asleep to the test tube pattern? Lol, well played :)
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WU v Nix did not make the top 20 last night, which cut off at 30k.
NRL game got excellent ratings to top the list.
There's one little quirky thing I noticed, and I might need help from our Victorian friends. The "VFL" makes three entries in the top 20, including a game between GWS and Footscray?? The actual game got ratings of 40k.
Is this a reserves game or something?
Anyway, that's in the top 20, and so our reality is that 2nd tier games for the NRL and the AFL can get more than double our very best A-League ratings.
What do the NRL and AFL earn for broadcasting their reserves? I'd say next to nothing, it would not be viewed as a commercial proposition by any broadcaster.
Food for thought for our game.| Rank | Description | Channel\Market | (r) National STV | | 1 | LIVE: NRL: PANTHERS V KNIGHTS | FOX LEAGUE | 229,000 | | 2 | LIVE: THE LATE SHOW WITH MATTY JOHNS | FOX LEAGUE | 78,000 | | 3 | LIVE: NRL PRE GAME THURSDAY | FOX LEAGUE | 75,000 | | 4 | OUTBACK OPAL HUNTERS | Discovery Channel | 71,000 | | 5 | THE BOLT REPORT | Sky News Live | 63,000 | | 6 | PAUL MURRAY LIVE | Sky News Live | 51,000 | | 7 | CREDLIN | Sky News Live | 49,000 | | 8 | THE KENNY REPORT | Sky News Live | 45,000 | | 9 | LIVE: VFL: THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTY ON FOX | FOX FOOTY | 43,000 | | 10 | ALAN JONES | Sky News Live | 41,000 | | 11 | LIVE: VFL: ROUND 2 GWS V FOOTSCRAY | FOX FOOTY | 40,000 | | 12 | GOLD RUSH | Discovery Channel | 39,000 | | 13 | FAMILY GUY | FOX8 | 35,000 | | 14 | THE SIMPSONS | FOX8 | 34,000 | | 15 | GRAND DESIGNS AUSTRALIA | Lifestyle Channel | 34,000 | | 16 | LIVE: VFL: THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTY ON FOX | FOX FOOTY | 33,000 |
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+xWU v Nix did not make the top 20 last night, which cut off at 30k.
NRL game got excellent ratings to top the list.
There's one little quirky thing I noticed, and I might need help from our Victorian friends. The "VFL" makes three entries in the top 20, including a game between GWS and Footscray?? The actual game got ratings of 40k.
Is this a reserves game or something?
Anyway, that's in the top 20, and so our reality is that 2nd tier games for the NRL and the AFL can get more than double our very best A-League ratings.
What do the NRL and AFL earn for broadcasting their reserves? I'd say next to nothing, it would not be viewed as a commercial proposition by any broadcaster.
Food for thought for our game. Its the eastern reserves comp plus a few other second tier teams from Vic/NSW/ACT and QLD thrown in. Deal announced just before the VFL started, and mirrors one struck with the NSWRL earlier in the year. - Seven will broadcast the VFL’s match of the day live on Sundays and fans will also be able to livestream it via Seven’s BVOD platform, 7plus
- Kayo will cover at least two additional matches live every round on Kayo Freebies (no paywall). It will carry three matches in each of the first two rounds to kick off the season.
- And the VFL will hit the airwaves of Fox Footy with a Thursday night match live on Fox Footy in the weeks when there is no AFL Thursday night game – simulcast on Kayo, Foxtel Go, Foxtel Now.
SANFL and WAFL not included. SANFL have their own streaming service + 1 game a week on 7/7plus. WAFL have 1 game a week on 7/7plus and 2 games a week streamed by The West Australian newspaper.
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"What do the NRL and AFL earn for broadcasting their reserves? I'd say next to nothing, it would not be viewed as a commercial proposition by any broadcaster. Food for thought for our game." Because it is content for people who already subscribe for the AFL or NRL. The important thing to note for us is that there is interest in second tiers and that the NRL and AFL will likely move to capitalise on it while we are pretending their is no interest in a second tier.
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+x"What do the NRL and AFL earn for broadcasting their reserves? I'd say next to nothing, it would not be viewed as a commercial proposition by any broadcaster. Food for thought for our game." Because it is content for people who already subscribe for the AFL or NRL. The important thing to note for us is that there is interest in second tiers and that the NRL and AFL will likely move to capitalise on it while we are pretending their is no interest in a second tier. That's a good point.
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A-League Fox Sports/ABC#MACvMCY 8,000
Ccm vs sydney
10,000 (Fox Sports) 63,000 (ABC)
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63k for the ABC is pretty good these days.
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We no longer bother looking at the Foxtel ratings any more. It has been two or three years since we used to regularly make the top 20, and even then, it would be only 3 or 4 games per round. Once upon a time, the big blue was almost guaranteed to make the top 20. While a mid week game might affect attendances, it should never affect ratings, that's prime time viewing. Instead, failed to make the top 20, cutting out at 28k with Peppa Pig. I went looking back into the archives, nowhere specific, just tried to find something from way back in the day. I stumbled across a Friday night game, on 5 October 2012, it's the Victory vs Heart (remember Heart?), this is pretty amazing, you will not believe these ratings: Rank | Description | Channel\Market | (r) National STV | 1 | LIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE MELB V V MELB H | FOX SPORTS 1 | 129,000 | 2 | LIVE: CRICKET: ICC WORLD TWENTY20 | FOX SPORTS 3 | 111,000 | 3 | THE SIMPSONS | FOX8 | 71,000 | 4 | FOOTBALL: KICK OFF | FOX SPORTS 1 | 70,000 | 5 | LIVE: CRICKET: WOMEN’S TWENTY/20 | FOX SPORTS 3 | 63,000 | 6 | LIVE: PRE GAME SHOW | FOX SPORTS 3 | 62,000 |
So, not only did we finish no. 1 with 129k, beat a cricket game, we even had the preview show finish no. 4. You just wouldn't believe it unless you were presented with the evidence.
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I remember when we were getting between 100-200k on SBS every Friday night and everyone was complaining that we weren't on the main channel.
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+xI remember when we were getting between 100-200k on SBS every Friday night and everyone was complaining that we weren't on the main channel. It's fucking horrendous. Anyone who buys the TV rights is buying potential, nothing else.
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+x+xI remember when we were getting between 100-200k on SBS every Friday night and everyone was complaining that we weren't on the main channel. It's fucking horrendous. Anyone who buys the TV rights is buying potential, nothing else. It seems someone else thought 200 mill reasons why the ALeague has potential.
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+x+x+xI remember when we were getting between 100-200k on SBS every Friday night and everyone was complaining that we weren't on the main channel. It's fucking horrendous. Anyone who buys the TV rights is buying potential, nothing else. It seems someone else thought 200 mill reasons why the ALeague has potential. Yes indeed! And you'd have to say it's a smart investment. Can't wait to see how 10 package and promote the comp.
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#BRIvWEL 14,000 (ABC 42,000)
#WSWvSYD 20,000
#PERvMAC9k
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20,000 at the game, best crowd of the season
20,000 ratings is pretty close to best ratings for the season
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Interesting news. Unexpected result from my end.
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+xInteresting news. Unexpected result from my end. Need to see if the boost has legs though. If subscriptions and the take up of the sports package keep rising, then Union is a big winner for Stan. Not so sure its a big winner if the rise plateaus in the first season, whish I suspect it may. Union has some keen fans, but they would have jumped on board quick imop. Where does growth come from after them?
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+x+xInteresting news. Unexpected result from my end. Need to see if the boost has legs though. If subscriptions and the take up of the sports package keep rising, then Union is a big winner for Stan. Not so sure its a big winner if the rise plateaus in the first season, whish I suspect it may. Union has some keen fans, but they would have jumped on board quick imop. Where does growth come from after them? If they get the a-league as well then they would see growth on that, if they have 3-400k sport subscribers then they are approaching Kayo levels and at a tiny fraction of the cost to buy Football and Rugby fees compared to AFL and Rugby League. It's not a bad method and looks like it is working somewhat. The question could equally be , where is Foxtel sports growth going to come from to cover their massive sports right fees.
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A-League Fox Sports#NEWvCCM 5,000 #WUNvSYD5k f3 derby
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+xA-League Fox Sports#NEWvCCM 5,000 #WUNvSYD5k f3 derby if a tree falls in the woods .......... did these matches actually happen?
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Anyone thinking winter football was a good idea,better take a hard look at those ratings.
Is the football getting better and are the ratings getting better as the temperature declines?
A-League in winter is basically NpL with some extra money and less crowd violence.
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+xAnyone thinking winter football was a good idea,better take a hard look at those ratings. Is the football getting better and are the ratings getting better as the temperature declines? A-League in winter is basically NpL with some extra money and less crowd violence. Less crowds = Less crowd violence ...... simples.
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+x+xAnyone thinking winter football was a good idea,better take a hard look at those ratings. Is the football getting better and are the ratings getting better as the temperature declines? A-League in winter is basically NpL with some extra money and less crowd violence. Less crowds = Less crowd violence ...... simples. 😀 Not in the NPL it appears.
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+x+x+xAnyone thinking winter football was a good idea,better take a hard look at those ratings. Is the football getting better and are the ratings getting better as the temperature declines? A-League in winter is basically NpL with some extra money and less crowd violence. Less crowds = Less crowd violence ...... simples. 😀 Not in the NPL it appears. Seems to be the case in the Aleague though :)
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Not many posts to put up on this thread, mainly because it's very diffficult to get the numbers, in the main, because the A-League never makes the top 20, I do mean never.
What about the Big Blue on a Wednesday night.
Fair enough, attendance at actual game is not expected to be high (just over 4,000 there), but surely a few would want to watch the game live on TV, a mid week game, doesn't get anymore TV friendly than that.
Anything good on Fox last night? No, certainly no live sport to speak of.
Unfortunately, not enough tuned in to crack the Fox top 20, with a handful of shows sitting on 28k, including:
- The Great British Bake off
- The Adventures of Paddington
- Peppa Pig, makes not one, but three appearances with 28k.
- The Homocide Hunter comes in at 20th with 27k (actual, sounds like a good show)
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+xNot many posts to put up on this thread, mainly because it's very diffficult to get the numbers, in the main, because the A-League never makes the top 20, I do mean never. What about the Big Blue on a Wednesday night. Fair enough, attendance at actual game is not expected to be high (just over 4,000 there), but surely a few would want to watch the game live on TV, a mid week game, doesn't get anymore TV friendly than that. Anything good on Fox last night? No, certainly no live sport to speak of. Unfortunately, not enough tuned in to crack the Fox top 20, with a handful of shows sitting on 28k, including: - The Great British Bake off - The Adventures of Paddington - Peppa Pig, makes not one, but three appearances with 28k. - The Homocide Hunter comes in at 20th with 27k (actual, sounds like a good show) Not to beat a horse but nobody watches on Foxtel anymore but I doubt many are watching on kayo either the YouTube replays usually get 4K
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A-League Fox Sports
#MCYvCCM 14,000 Wellington vs western United 7k
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+xA-League Fox Sports
#MCYvCCM 14,000 Wellington vs western United 7k I would guess that there where quite a few people watching the final matchday of the EPL early this morning, even at 2am. How good was having the top 4 positions in EPL change 5 or 6 times over the course of 90 mins?
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https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8687-afl-vs-nrl-april-2021-202104260235#:~:text=The%20latest%20data%20from%20Roy,show%2Dpiece%20AFL%20Grand%20FinalOnce upon a time, Roy Morgan used to do an annual survey that showed the total ratings for the whole year for all four football codes. Alas, it would appear that no longer happens, and they're only showing the NRL and AFL.
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A-League Fox Sports #NEWvPER 14,000
#BRIvSYD 13,000
#CCMvWUN 11,000
(ABC 55,000)
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+xA-League Fox Sports #NEWvPER 14,000
#BRIvSYD 13,000
#CCMvWUN 11,000
(ABC 55,000) Dead rubber games really I didn’t even watch them.dp We know what the socceroo ratings were?
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Best ratings I can remember for a very long time for the A-League:
A-League Fox Sports#CCMvMAC 35,000 Suncorp Super Netball Nine #SSNGIANTSLightning 78,000 (Metro)
NRL Fox League
#NRLRaidersBroncos 231,000
#NRLSouthsKnights 258,000
#NRLTitansRoosters 163,000
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+xBest ratings I can remember for a very long time for the A-League:
A-League Fox Sports#CCMvMAC 35,000 Suncorp Super Netball Nine #SSNGIANTSLightning 78,000 (Metro)
NRL Fox League
#NRLRaidersBroncos 231,000
#NRLSouthsKnights 258,000
#NRLTitansRoosters 163,000 That’s fantastic sadly the roar vs Adelaide match didn’t make the top 20
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A-LeagueFox Sports #SYDvADL 22k
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+xA-LeagueFox Sports #SYDvADL 22k Semi-final TV ratings: - 22 k - ? k fark me
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+x+xA-LeagueFox Sports #SYDvADL 22k Semi-final TV ratings: - 22 k - ? k fark me Just round 17 in lowly old NPLVIC 
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+x+x+xA-LeagueFox Sports #SYDvADL 22k Semi-final TV ratings: - 22 k - ? k fark me Just round 17 in lowly old NPLVIC And what were the Kayo figures? MyFootball App, Including views of replays and mini match? Why are people still pretending Foxtel figures are relevant? We just got our best TV deal ever and people are still trying to base our survival on Foxtel ratings.
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+x+x+xA-LeagueFox Sports #SYDvADL 22k Semi-final TV ratings: - 22 k - ? k fark me Just round 17 in lowly old NPLVIC tbf to this, youtube viewers are not really a measure of anything, they pop up on the global youtube live page where a single second click is a total view, if you include the a-league's youtube viewers for international views, its private but considering most times, they were anywhere between 5-15k concurrent, it would be much higher than the actual views on foxtel. sadly, for npl clubs and a-league, youtube viewers mean fuck all.
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bettega
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Sunday was full of supercars, cut-off at 61k, so zero chance of breaking into the top 20.
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