Ch 10 & SMH reporting Dwight York to coach the Cows

I'm sure the Campbelltown nightlife swayed it :):D

what is the cows?

MacArthur i would imagine.

Mc Cows or McBulls...

Thats amazing, he is clearly so much more tactically astute than local Australian NPL coaches that have been doing it for years......

And they're wondering why know ones turning up

To be fair, the local A League coaches haven't exactly been showing much. 

True and I guess "all night Dwight" is the current ISUZU TRUCKS (but not passenger or other commercial vehicles)  Men's A Leagues All Stars Pty Ltd manager so he must be better than all the scummy Aussie coaches.

This appointment is a fucking embarrassment & a slap in the face to Australian football in general.  

They have appointed someone who has never coached. 


There is no football played in this country besides the so called top flight.   

South Park cows 

Appointed purely on Name Recognition. Well done Cows.

Probably costs 5 x as much as a proper manager as well. 

One of Danny Townsends 35 ?

you  can't   make  this   up ...

Yeah who could’ve guessed that after one of the world’s most famous footballers retired, and then coached in a country he played in. 

Now been announced by the club.

Wonder   who   else   they   will   try   to   wheel   out ... ?

He is only 50 FFS.Fergie was still going well into his 70's.

I thought you would like him as it was your uncle Frank that originally brought him out to Australia.

Even with name recognition this is his first attempt at coaching a club which is risky. Hopefully he can make a difference for them.
Macarthur have been strange this season. Went from top 3 at the beginning, to then struggling away from home and then stuttered to a halt. Given the squad they had there was no excuse to make the top 6 and some here suggested there was conflict between Ante and the players. Hopefully it isn't anything more than that...



Lmao underrated

Fuck me you're such a miserable bunch of pricks. 

Hope the 8 of you whingers with 15 accounts enjoy your life and this forum when the season ends and beyond.

Go United 

I'm actually in favour of his appointment. No such thing as bad publicity and all that.

I get yours and Davide's pov but even for the sake of good publicity IF its a fail just as what occurred with GOD what is the point and for the good of the game overall ahead ?
OK we have a known name coming on board but what top league we know anywhere assigns a unkown, its de ja vue once again.
Hope he cuts the mustard for the Club on the backfoot failures ahead not good media wise and the game.

Ange was a BIG unknown in Scotland. He actually was you know.

yes bud I know that all too well BUT he actually has a coaching resume obviously despite the Hoops/supporters and general over there wouldn't have ever heard of him BUT as said we know he's a proven gaffa - was saying it hypothetically IF he had NO coaching experience and he got the Hoops gig.
Would never have happenned period thats the point.

You're in danger of missing out on the Death Spiral bandwagon

Pretending to have always been for P/R, Marquees were never going to work and Expansion wasn't the solution to everything.

Now you're going to end up as one of those 'back in the good old days of the closed shop' whingers

Robbie Fowlers appointment as manager was pretty similar with lack of managerial experience from memory

Look how that turned out.

Yeah, shocking. After finishing last and conceding an A-League record goals the previous season, Fowler only managed to get the side into the top 4 the following season.  

Aha ,   "all  night  Dwight " ...

He's  50.

Probably   be  getting  the   "all   afternoon   Dwight "   version   now ...

Your not enjoying middle age much are you mate? .... Chin up, its almost over.

Imagine being middle aged and creating a multi where the schtick is putting extra spaces between each word. 

If I make it to 50, can't drink past the afternoon and start talking about milieus and triangles, you have my permission to ban me forever :). lol

your poor family

Football coaches Australia will be up in arms,
Still there is always saying Harvey Norman Replay for Phil Moss

:D and there I was treading lightly so as to not upset lol.......

I'd seriously like to hear from those supporters approving ?
Imagine for eg the SPL seeing so many have jumped on the band wagon re Ange IF he didn't have any coaching experience but as an ex player got the Hoops gig - how do you think that would have come across there ?
We're talking our Pro level game here.
It is another slap in the face to the locals let alone what of all the current AL assistants who could have fitted the bill for eg ?
Or how about another experienced 1st team coach from Asia or ME - why not try and entice a well qualified Jap coach another option ?
Wouldn't any of the above be better for the Bulls let alone their academy players down.

Because stevey g had so much experience when he took over Rangers. "It would never happen". Frank Lampard absolutely bombed with derby in league 1 (let's be honest that is about the level of the aleague) with his vast experience of zero as manager to them to the championship playoff. 

Yorke has just finished his badges with man U and they are publicly backing him. If Yorke wants to become a manager he could very well do well as he always had a very good football brain. Let him show what he's got before ridiculing him

You've sort of proved our point though mate. Lampard, Gerard etc etc all cut their teeth in 2nd or 3rd division positions as did 99% of all current managers in senior positions world wide.... Or at the very least spent a few seasons as assistant coaches, managed the seconds or even managed the women's team before they were "given their chance" 
Yorke I agree, could do amazingly well and I hope he does, why not? Fact is that it devalues the perception of the league as a gimmick AND is unfair to the hard work put in by Australian coaches who will never be given a chance. Don't the APL franchises care about the level of Australian players and coaches the A league produces? Is "new football" not about the good of the game anymore? Was it ever?

Did Gerard?

On 7 September 2017, the club announced Gerrard would manage the Under-19 team in the 2017–18 UEFA Youth League^184]
In late April 2018, Gerrard entered talks to become the new manager of Scottish Premiership club Rangers

The success Gerrard had at Rangers was down to Michael Beale, do not let anyone tell you anything different.

I guess maybe Rangers would consider 1 years worth of coaching at Melwood under the tutelage of Jurgen Klopp as a sufficient apprenticeship, definitely worth more than not having coached one single match at any level and have "the endorsement of Manchester United" a club btw who cant even get their own management correct over the last 4-5 years and didnt even see fit to keep Dwight in their own academy for a year.......

Ask SuthoBear what the reaction to Gerrard getting the gaffers gig at Rangers was like from their faithfull and the Scottish football public at large... Not too dissimilar to what Ange copped I believe (SB correct me if Im wrong mate but I seem to remember alot rubbishing this very thing)... Some people just cant see the plastic for the trees.

Gerrard was very well accepted by the Rangers support, but not the general public in Scotland as was seen as a threat to their beloved fenians as well as being English. Racism is massive in Scotland against the English.

Seemed fairly 50-50 to me, a few Rangers supporting pals where pretty dirty at the time.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/best-twitter-reactions-steven-gerrard-maybe-becoming-next-rangers-boss-298697

From my forums, family and friends i would have said 90-10. I seriously cannot remember too much negativity when it was announced.

Fair enough mate, Ill obviously deffer to you on this... Point still stands though that it was fair enough question to be asked of a new gaffer from a footballing sense?

Make sure you get tucked in early tonight mate, big game in the morning :) Good Luck. 

ah some good points - SG, had 2yrs coaching in the academy for starters after fresh out of the game, his call to Rangers was up to them they took the punt rest is history.
Good fortune ? or good management ? bit of both I guess but he was the type for coaching as we could see, some are not like for any job.
EX players are a hard call to be coachs - most don't cut it period they are assigned the job because of name alone.
Lampard is another good mention, he inherited a pretty good squad @ Derby and getting to the play offs was commendale, he should have stayed their to keep learning his craft but couldn't resist the call back to the Blues that was way above his ability as shown with a damn fine squad.
Now suffering big time at the Toffs and likely gone shortly in turn scarring his Coaching reputation.
You can add Rooney as well but at least he has stayed with them despite relegation BUT really who would bother above in higher leagues taking him on now but a romantic Club owner.
I don't think ALM is even at L1 levels consistantly imo.

SG/Lampard/Rooney had/have very good football brains as well, 1 has succeeded with a title and made sure AV stays in EPL without a pres season etc, the other 2 are minor train wrecks at this stage.
Being endorsed by United means that only, not much but your ol Club gives you a good reference, I didn't ridicule him but made the point considering Bulls/ALM are in crictical times wouldn't it have been wiser pulling a credible coach with experience instead of the name and a punt the next couple of years.

barely a year from what I can find

between 1-2 officially, he finshed up with Galaxy 2016 but he was always a tactician type guy, was around gaffa management briefings heaps prior and then getting his license.
Like I said fresh out of the game, was his next out clause process, fingers on the pulse - a bit more preparation than who we're talking about talking comparing apples with apples.

These are all fair points but doesn't actually change the fact he had no (very very little maybe) experience in any coaching capacity.

The fact is there are countless examples in all leagues around the world of ex players being promoted to coaching roles before they have as much experience as other "more deserving" local options.

Good or bad appt is a fair debate but the fact is it happens so the people who see this as a "slap in the face to football in this country" or call it plastic etc are just perpetually outraged whine merchants

Let's not kid ourselves and think the aleague is on the same level as the Premier league, it is league one equivalent and there have been numerous ex players cut their teeth at that level. Harry kewel is another one who did well at his first club in league one.

His endorsement by man U is more than just an old club giving him a good reference. He did his badges through them meaning he did a lot of hands on learning at the club in their academy. If he is a total flop the that will speak a lot about their teaching. They wouldn't publicly endorse him if he was rubbish. (There is a joke about them publicly endorsing there first team head coaches who are rubbish but I won't make it)

say no more :)

Never was anything mentioned re comparing with EPL, far far far from it and I mentioned before I can't agree APLM is even on L1 levels consistantly, imo.

Attempt to cash in on his name-well known to EPL/Eurosnobs though less so to the younger generation.The Bulls have not set the world on fire with unimaginative  play despite some good players on their roster-Davila,DDS,Liam Rose.They need a name to get interest going in an area which should be a nursery for the code but his lack of coaching credentials may backfire.Anyway good luck to him and them.

If he's good enough to coach the whole A-league Allstars, he's good enough to coach one of the feeder squads

Ha ha quality post

Not saying I'd want him to coach United but I couldn't care less who coaches other clubs.

It's just the instant outrage over the top whinge fest here that's tiresome. That's all I personally meant. 

As if ex players don't get to coach clubs before it's "deserved" in other leagues. 

So many local managers waiting for an opportunity to coach at the highest level in Australia and Macarthur give the position to Dwight Yorke. Has he coached before?

NO..........
Re GOD mentioned in CO post - at least GOD had his coaching license long before coming here and some experience, OK Thailand gig you think WTF but he was in trenchs at least then taking up a LFC Academy gig.
So compared to DY he had some runs on the board coaching wise.

How much experience did Gerard have before getting the Rangers gig?
I'm far from an expert but I'm pretty sure it was none
EDIT - a wiki search says 1 year juniors at liverpool.
Is that correct?

Our coaches are not producing good football. Victory are efficient but that's it. City underperforming under Kisnorbo. Veart is the best of them and the best-selling of lots of is Montgomery who is a Brit. As for the other Aus A League coaches... Forget it. It's naive to think that there are better coaches in the NPL.
There is so little excitement in the A League that I'm all forced a wild card with profile like Yorke. 

Pardon the SwiftKey incoherence 

I think thats a little simplistic though Charlie. Coaches are limited by the players at their disposal but thats a whole other conversation. Yorke's appointment is of a coach with NO prior coaching experience. Its bad enough the APL has insulted all of Australian football by honouring him as coach of the supposed "best players of the Aleague system for the year" rather than giving it also to the best Australia coach of the year... this appointment is a marketing exercise which is ONLY viable for Macarthur because there is no consequence for  poor performance. It seems, at arms length, that they are happy to hire an ex player in order to sell a few more tickets a round and dont really give a crap if he can coach or not .... We all laughed at Usain Bolt trialling but this is pretty much the same thing... Fowler at least, as LFC mentions above, had stood in the sheds in front of a whiteboard and 11 players before.... has Dwight?

Definitely only a marketing exercise. 

The other issue for is the time out of football Yorke has had. If he just finished playing football 1-2 years ago and moved into this role it would be more palatable. 

But does anyone know what Yorke has done since he finished playing in 2009??

Yeah, I take your points. I'm just desperate for a little excitement in the A League.

 

Be interesting to see the reaction of the players to having a coach with no licence... 

What he has no license?
Hahahahahah its laugable then that he wont be able to coach at NPL level here but can lead a team onto the field in the Aleague.... hahahahahh

Didn't your Angela not have a license either when he arrived in Scotland ? ( European )

AngelO not AngelA --- I know these wog names must be hard on you ______ 
Anyway tbf I guess Ange did have a AFC coaching certificate and probably, like the rest of the world, didnt really consider Scotland to be part of Europe anyway :P. hahahahahahah

It’s not anymore 🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Ah so it was a homophobic slur NOT a racist one! Hahahahahahahah  fair enough. Lol

edit again looks like it was mentioned after the comment i read aha

What about guys that were player coaches?

Gianluca Vialli?
Who did he coach before Chelsea?

A lot of negativity, which is fair enough (but also seems to be the default setting here). Seeing as Dwight Yorke has long spoken out about the lack of opportunities for Black coaches in English football, should we not see his appointment as something of a positive? 

BTW, how was Fowler a failure? If anything, he showed what's possible for a foreign coach who comes in with a knowledge of the league and a firm plan. Are we just sensitive because he had relative success with a bunch of League One no-names?