Isnt this the discussion that was had after Ange resigned before 2018? 

all true but not really a factor for the WC tournament itself  though

i cant agree with this - name a team that has won the world cup (or even made a WC final) in the past 30 years that didnt have squad full of superstar players at club level?

France 2018 

Germany 2014

Spain 2010 

Italy 2006

Brazil 2002 

France 1998 

etc 

Maybe someone emailed Souttar, Boyle and Karacic the fabled FFA Curriculum when they where younger? Lets not disguise this for what it is... Just like 4 years ago, the thickness of the goalpost will see us through to another world cup ... DESPITE THE FFA, not because of anything they did.....  

ARNIE = LEGEND

Very happy with the way the boys played. Well done and respect to Arnie, and of course the boys.

Credit where due, he's made some mistakes recently but he got the most important game spot on. 

He looks like a wino that just got busted doing something, but he loves his country and the team - cannot be sacked before WC.

Probably referring to our own players and fans' appraisals of current and past generations.

All those  WC champs you've mentioned had very good players playing in big leagues. No doubt a team needs very good players to win WCs.

I think this could be true!

Sir Graham Arnold!

Take your point, but one can add Rowles as a recent product of our system too.

Ditto King.

Maclaren played in under 23s and under 20s, as did Mabil, Genreau, Metcalf, Stensness, Devlin.  

Good post, I have to confess that I didn't give the Socceroos a chance this morning (I didn't even bother to watch the game, because I assumed Peru were going to slaughter the Socceroos), I was also losing faith in Graham Arnold, but he proved me wrong.

And wasn't Rowles fucking amazing.He played with the Mariners when they were absolute shit but always gave 100 % and has now tasted success in a crucial game.

D2, I dont want to take away from the great outcome but its hardly got much local twist but a handful and some mostly on the pine let alone not used much.
IMO untill we have a good half dozen or so playing in top leagues for thats the bar if your ever gonna be a decent contender let alone competing neck and neck with Japan/Sth Korea in our own region.
Lets wait and see as mentioned, none of this chicken before the egg.

Will just remind people he holds a record in the aleague, of the most consecutive losses, a record that I believe will never be beaten of 28 straight, shows true perseverance to get here.

ARNIE = LEGEND

That is all.

Interesting take Decentric.

The thing I’ll ask is when we will be starting to ask ourselves when we can take the next jump and try to do something at the World Cup? It’s fine to make it but going into 2026 that argument will be weaker for that group knowing the path will be easier.

Last time hitting the post & bouncing out is not a goal, nor was Recoba shooting wide in Sydney in 2005,  with no-one to beat, against the GG.
This is football this is life.

I think you're also overlooking that if all our opponents had scored just one more goal than us in each game we wouldn't have won any of them!

He’s still a crap coach. Verbeek and Osieck also took us to the WC and they were both crap coaches. 

Arnie continues to make several tactical errors and doesnt appear to learn from mistakes. He puts Duke up front because he adds a “physcial presence” but the real question is will it lead to a goal? The answer is No, there’s no point of having the physical presence up front if it negates the goal scoring threat.

He continues to play Leckie, a tired , slow has been, out of position for the same reason as Duke, the physical presence up front thing. Again, will it lead to a goal? No. Like Duke, Leckie doenst have the finishng skills or positional sense to convert his physicality into goals. Mabil turned the game in our favour once he came on, nearly set up a goal and his pace troubled Peru.

if we consistently do well in the asian champions league and u23s I think we can start to look at challenging the 16 every time. Recent times looks promising, hopefully the start of an upward trajectory

for u20s and u17s I don't care about results though, just perfomance

It's a vastly different situation. Holger had a much MUCH better squad at his disposal. And while Arnie's tactics were questionable for much of the campaign, Holger seemed to have no tactics at all. Also, love him or hate him, Arnie's one of our own. He got us there against all odds in the end and deserves to stay. It's actually incredible that you're furiously calling for his head after this morning. Why so angry? 

Not an Arnie fan, but he’s earned his shot at the WC. 
Remembered how Guus was revered after beating the South Americans on penalties. 

lol. never thought about it this way, but yes - best manager at club and national level? wow

GA will be at the helm for the WC anyone who thinks different is dreaming.

Its worse than that, you have to assume he will remain as coach after the World Cup! at least until he makes it 3 out of 3 pathetic losing Asian cups under him.

You've proved my point man. :)

Yeah  it according to the prevailing wisdom of some, this time we won it was because the FFA curriculum finally filtered through the system and produced a cohesive playing group .......  heheheheheheheheheheheh

5 WC in a row is not bad after 32 years of nothing.
However I agree with you the FA curriculum has not bear fruit as expected, but then I stand by my watching football in this country since 1974 WC, that we do not produce players with high technical players bar very few & only ever produced 2 world class outfield players in Harry Kewell & Mark Viduka.

I am impressed with the improvement in the coaching performance of Graham Arnold over these two qualifiers and the Jordan friendly. Especially to the point that he out coached an allegedly better credentialled Peruvian coach in the intercontinental playoff. This was most unexpected, as the performance of the team and coaching had deteriorated over the latter stages of the final group games, to the extent that we had only won one of the previous seven games.
The comments from Arnold before and during the qualifiers this week has been about underdogs etc performance and no one expected us to win. This is insightful given we were initially frontrunning qualifying with the 12 game winning run. Also, in the Olympic campaign last year, with Arnold in charge, we got the results (quite unexpectedly) in the first two games and fell in a heap in the third game where only a draw would have secured advancement to the quarterfinals.
This neatly fits with my surmising that Graham Arnold has "deer in the headlights" syndrome. As a side issue, this probably equates with "imposter syndrome" which Andrew Redmayne acknowledges he suffers from, and why the two understand each other.
As we play Denmark in the third game of our group in the WC, we cannot afford a similar slip up. It is expected they are the most likely to get the second spot in the group, so we need a good result against them if we are to progress.

Don't know if you saw this mornings Denmark game v Austria?........ spoiler, dont think telling the world we are playing " backs to the wall, true blue, dinkum die Aussie fighting DNA football" and then putting in Mooey to slllllooooooowwwwwwww the tempo right down will help,with getting that "good result" :(