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+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves.
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+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost.
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+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. I think this is true, the gap is probably at its smallest right now.
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+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. yep and nothing like keeping our game overall in the backrooms of BS politics and procastinating no diff to what others crap on of the ol NSL days. The game here needs the life of the pyrimad for its future period for the participants and supporters. IF the FA don't stand up real soon for the good of the game below APL they can GGF.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. I think this is true, the gap is probably at its smallest right now. At least the APL has achieved something
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. I think this is true, the gap is probably at its smallest right now. At least the APL has achieved something Ahahahaha
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I’m losing faith, how we are still waiting for some news?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. yep and nothing like keeping our game overall in the backrooms of BS politics and procastinating no diff to what others crap on of the ol NSL days. The game here needs the life of the pyrimad for its future period for the participants and supporters. IF the FA don't stand up real soon for the good of the game below APL they can GGF.
I have a feeling money isn’t the only talking point but bureaucracy is also playing its part too.
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+xI’m losing faith, how we are still waiting for some news? Only now? This thread has been running for 5 years and nothing has changed. Have to laugh at the other thread 'what teams will be in' or something. As if it's some sort of foregone conclusion. Even if they do manage to get something happening the format will be some abortion that no one will be happy with.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. yep and nothing like keeping our game overall in the backrooms of BS politics and procastinating no diff to what others crap on of the ol NSL days. The game here needs the life of the pyrimad for its future period for the participants and supporters. IF the FA don't stand up real soon for the good of the game below APL they can GGF.
I have a feeling money isn’t the only talking point but bureaucracy is also playing its part too. Yes, definitely a bit of both (and by bureaucracy, I would take that to mean different stakeholders putting in their two bobs worth). Also, the money side feeds the other. For example, if they think it's on the expensive side, they are more prone to: - introduce higher license fees, and - accept offers from APL clubs to play their reserves, which the FA might view as a good option to mitigate the financial risk (not to mention that the APL clubs probably carry the most clout of all the stakeholders). On the one hand, maybe no news is good news. The longer the argy bargy, what is the likely outcome? You can argue that both ways. Maybe JJ is holding out against the clubs for a more football centric outcome. Maybe that's worth the wait.
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+x+xI’m losing faith, how we are still waiting for some news? This thread has been running for 5 years and nothing has changed. There' s certainly no NSD , that' s for sure ...
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+x+xI’m losing faith, how we are still waiting for some news? Only now? This thread has been running for 5 years and nothing has changed. Have to laugh at the other thread 'what teams will be in' or something. As if it's some sort of foregone conclusion. Even if they do manage to get something happening the format will be some abortion that no one will be happy with. Sadly your right, not much has changed since all the talk began 5 years ago. And your right we will probably get an model which isn’t what the game needs going forward. Following Aus football is one large frustration overall.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. yep and nothing like keeping our game overall in the backrooms of BS politics and procastinating no diff to what others crap on of the ol NSL days. The game here needs the life of the pyrimad for its future period for the participants and supporters. IF the FA don't stand up real soon for the good of the game below APL they can GGF.
I have a feeling money isn’t the only talking point but bureaucracy is also playing its part too. Mate, to put it in perspective Australian BASEBALL has a national competition (and one NZ team I believe) yet manage to fly teams around the country to play in front of <500 crowds and they are talking about a women's national league next year.!!!... Lack of money is NOT the only consideration ...... unless you mean keeping the APL cartel investments alive and protected? The sooner the foreign owners piss off, the sooner we can all get what we want.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. yep and nothing like keeping our game overall in the backrooms of BS politics and procastinating no diff to what others crap on of the ol NSL days. The game here needs the life of the pyrimad for its future period for the participants and supporters. IF the FA don't stand up real soon for the good of the game below APL they can GGF.
I have a feeling money isn’t the only talking point but bureaucracy is also playing its part too. Mate, to put it in perspective Australian BASEBALL has a national competition (and one NZ team I believe) yet manage to fly teams around the country to play in front of <500 crowds and they are talking about a women's national league next year.!!!... Lack of money is NOT the only consideration ...... unless you mean keeping the APL cartel investments alive and protected? The sooner the foreign owners piss off, the sooner we can all get what we want. All paid for by the Atlassian billionaire
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBumping this again, because it's extraordinary that this article is 5 years old - written by the late Michael Cockerill! They were aiming for a start date of 2018. Yep, you heard that right. It soon became 2020, but COVID hit, so we could excuse that for a couple of years. I could have sworn I then heard 2022, but no, we are 75% through 2022. Doesn't really look like they could get it up for 2023, but I guess it's still possible. I think the reasons for the delay are two-fold: 1. an ongoing concern about the cost of running a national comp 2. various stakeholders putting forward conflicting models (and that includes stakeholders who arguably, should not really have a say in how the NSD is structured. The other cautionary part of this tale is that the FA has started referring to it as the 2nd "tier". So yeh, that's acceptable nomenclature, but a tiny bit of critical thinking would suggest that the change in terms used is no accident. FA have to approve it and are currently 19 months into their ponderings with still no sign of a choice of model. FA board is responsible for how fast it happens. Pretty much this..... A few small hints dropped here and there about an announcement just before the Aleague launch... lets see?. If we see SU58 win the cup (anything can happen in a final, especially if it goes to pens), it would be a massive shame to not drive that momentum into a proper official statement about the future NSD. Especially with SU58 being a contender for an initial NSD spot. If we hear nothing, it's probably time for the AAFC to return to the whole 'without the FA' idea and find a way to fund/run it themselves. Even if they dont win the cup mate, I still think its a great achievement by a semi pro club with ambitions. Never has the level between NPL and Aleague been so close (not just on the park but in the back rooms as well) .. If JJ and the FA dont make a move soon I fear that all chances are lost. yep and nothing like keeping our game overall in the backrooms of BS politics and procastinating no diff to what others crap on of the ol NSL days. The game here needs the life of the pyrimad for its future period for the participants and supporters. IF the FA don't stand up real soon for the good of the game below APL they can GGF.
I have a feeling money isn’t the only talking point but bureaucracy is also playing its part too. Mate, to put it in perspective Australian BASEBALL has a national competition (and one NZ team I believe) yet manage to fly teams around the country to play in front of <500 crowds and they are talking about a women's national league next year.!!!... Lack of money is NOT the only consideration ...... unless you mean keeping the APL cartel investments alive and protected? The sooner the foreign owners piss off, the sooner we can all get what we want. All paid for by the Atlassian billionaire I didnt know that, fair enough. What about the Womens national ice hockey league or the men's field hockey? Point is its doable on very tight budgets......
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Model, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023
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Amazing!! This is some of the best news we have heard in a long long time
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How's the SMH president already talking like this though aha: The beauty of this is that [an NSD's] a competition that will be owned by the FA and they similarly have to put resources in to make sure that the commercial aspect of it, at some point, can contribute back to the clubs," he said.
"I'm not for one moment suggesting that they need to be funding us from day one, not at all. This is an investment that we're all making."But at some point, they also have to make sure that they've got the appropriate resources to make sure that this competition also gives back to the clubs.
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+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ?
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+x+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ? As there will not be pro/rel for quite a long time, calling this new level of football a second tier is quite accurate. In saying that though, if this gets going in 2023-24 Remote baby, we should then shed a tear together I feel my dear friend. Then again when WU build their training ground, they estimated it to be completed for the 2023-24 season as well. Will they just? stay tuned!
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+x+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ? Nick Galatas Tweeted that the FFA 'has settled on an approach largely advocated by the clubs '
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+x+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ? Because he called it a comp? That is one hell of a long bow even for you. It really does sound like the potential 2nd div clubs are happy and that there won't be any reserve sides there. It's the first time I have felt positive this can actually happen.
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+x+x+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ? Because he called it a comp? If FA had decided it will be a proper National Second Division , why wouldn' t JJ just call it that?
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+x+x+x+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ? Because he called it a comp? If FA had decided it will be a proper National Second Division , why wouldn' t JJ just call it that? So in conversation he can't refer to the competition as a competition in case Tucker here cottons on to the deeper meaning. Wwg1wga
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+x+x+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ? Because he called it a comp? That is one hell of a long bow even for you. It really does sound like the potential 2nd div clubs are happy and that there won't be any reserve sides there. It's the first time I have felt positive this can actually happen. Agreed, the crazy bastard actually looks like he may pull it off to everyone's satisfaction... One more year of NPL and then national football again...... can't wait.
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+xHow's the SMH president already talking like this though aha: The beauty of this is that [an NSD's] a competition that will be owned by the FA and they similarly have to put resources in to make sure that the commercial aspect of it, at some point, can contribute back to the clubs," he said.
"I'm not for one moment suggesting that they need to be funding us from day one, not at all. This is an investment that we're all making."But at some point, they also have to make sure that they've got the appropriate resources to make sure that this competition also gives back to the clubs. I thought Nick's quotes are quite reasonable. Do you not agree that the purpose of the competition is to drive improvements at club level? I guess if you see his reference to "resources" as "dividends" or broadcast payments like for the franchises then yeah fair enough but a member's owned club doesn't need to make a profit remember... its all about growing the club. These clubs will be NFP sporting organizations, at least mostly.
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I have never seen nor heard JJ ever refer to it in any interview or article as a "National Second Division ". It' s always a "second tier competition " . Appears very deliberate. I wonder why ??
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+x+x+xModel, Criteria and EOIs complete by Mid 2023 Interesting that in the quotes from the article JJ is still referring to a "second tier " comp ( not a 'division' , or 'national' SD ) . I guess the champions league / conference models are still on the table ? As there will not be pro/rel for quite a long time, calling this new level of football a second tier is quite accurate. In saying that though, if this gets going in 2023-24 Remote baby, we should then shed a tear together I feel my dear friend. Then again when WU build their training ground, they estimated it to be completed for the 2023-24 season as well. Will they just? stay tuned! I hope the criteria for entering this competition are a lot more fleshed out than for the Aleague... I would hate to have clubs trying to arrange home grounds around the country and at footy ovals :)
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+x@Davide82 I have never seen nor heard JJ ever refer to it in any interview or article as a "National Second Division ". It' s always a "second tier competition " . Appears very deliberate. I wonder why ?? Because its not linked to the Aleague ? What did Lowy and Gallop refer to it as "those fuckin wogs and their shitty clubs will not survive another 15 years of this" perhaps?
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