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+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah
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+x+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge We and Japan can improve and maybe even fluke it to QFs one day, but the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. I was willing someone, anyone to challenge the established supremacy this time, but in the end it's even worse than usual - 6 European nations + Brazil/Argentina in the quarters. It's so disgustingly predictable and I see no way of it ever changing. It's virtually impossible to break into that exclusive club if you're a non-Euro nation. They have all the resources and all the power. It is not a world game sadly. I agree as long as talent is measured by how many players you have in the big 5 European leagues it will always be this way. Because you can then assume that those big 5 nations will always have a few hundred players in those leagues, so the teams outside these league will never be able to compete on a consistent basis (can always make the odd run in a tournament format) apart from Brazil/Argentina. Yes and No Dont let hype get in the way of ability - England have won 1 WC in there entire history they have always had players at the top level I mean there golden generation flopped never even made a final Spain 1 WC and 2 Euros always had top players Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay all have more WC then the both two nations - you could easily argue Spain and England have the two best leagues in the world but i honestly couldnt name 5 clubs from Uruguay and i have been a football fan since i was 9 Holland have never won a world cup but they have 3 finals and the Dutch league produces great players but frankly it is not better then the J league Players wil always go were Money is - we need to make Asian clubs have more lucrative and we need the ACL to compete with the UCL and right now the ACL is not even on the level of Europa - the ACL is such a joke id rather it didnt exist if they are not going to do it properly. The Prize money should be >30m USD for the winner and every team competing should get at least 4m USD We need to realise Australia and Asia are now intertwined the only way for us to succeed is if the entire confederation improves - this is way i have always been in favor of both Russia and Turkey joining the AFC and why i hate our involvement with NZ and the NZ FA as it hurts the AFC and thus hurts us. (it is also why i hate the salary cap, and 3+1 rule) adding on to banzai's comments its obvious playing in Europe leagues improves the up and coming player full stop period. Forgetting winning the Cup I'm talking about player quality, they play CL/Europa/Euro as mentioned, what does that do for the players game going into their NT duty. Gets them blooded and battle hardenned and used to knock out games. Dav, nah the Dutch league isn't on par with JL, its better, ranking are rankings and depending which source but Dutch is around 7th JL around 20th and the average stats from top of the league to bottom has quite a gap. Yer I agree the whole ACL needs a big injection in funds and marketing, it has gained no respect to date. Clubs need to treat it like they do in Europe for the CL etc, its an out and out got to be in there let alone consolation Europa. As for being looked upon as a conferation by the usual suspects, this WC it got noticed obviously and where held made it alot more noticeable to the rest of the football world. What needs to occur is backing it up next WC, not just us but the rest who got those amazing unexpected wins, 3 of us making the R16. All this talk about Asia becoming a power is pretty premature for me, do it 2/3 Cups in a row then yer you've got on the dance floor, not just this Cup. Another point about other usual NT's who have either not made it or the regular ones knocked out during group stage and quoted their leagues have gone backwards etcetc, its all about cycles, whilst we live in hope getting on the dance floor more often than not don't you think those who had a bad Cup will re group and be better prepared and perform next Cup correcting the ledger, don't think they'll be left behind.
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+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah You have to see other post where I agree with you on Kuol's take down. Portugal are no way overrated, I think more underrated. They have 3 of the best player in the best team in England, one more a star of the no 5 team in Man U. Add a few more , plus the great man himself. But did you see Brazil this morning in 1st half, very very scary.
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+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah my boys hope Xhaka the hacka doesn't get near CR7 ruin his hair or Fernandes (< who rolls over from a gust of wind) but they will do the Swiss, honarary mention Shaquiri does a worldy.
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+x+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah my boys hope Xhaka the hacka doesn't get near CR7 ruin his hair or Fernandes (< who rolls over from a gust of wind) but they will do the Swiss, honarary mention Shaquiri does a worldy. Enjoy game LFC. I'm still all emotion out after the Aus v Argies game. I'm sure by tomorrow morning I will be willing to go thru all again.
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+x+x+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah my boys hope Xhaka the hacka doesn't get near CR7 ruin his hair or Fernandes (< who rolls over from a gust of wind) but they will do the Swiss, honarary mention Shaquiri does a worldy. Enjoy game LFC. I'm still all emotion out after the Aus v Argies game. I'm sure by tomorrow morning I will be willing to go thru all again. I'm sure we'll be on the highs again in the morning but I already was with the Cro game..... Blown by Brazil smoking em by mid 1st half.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah my boys hope Xhaka the hacka doesn't get near CR7 ruin his hair or Fernandes (< who rolls over from a gust of wind) but they will do the Swiss, honarary mention Shaquiri does a worldy. Enjoy game LFC. I'm still all emotion out after the Aus v Argies game. I'm sure by tomorrow morning I will be willing to go thru all again. I'm sure we'll be on the highs again in the morning but I already was with the Cro game..... Blown by Brazil smoking em by mid 1st half. So your kids like mine have 3 teams to follow. I think mine are Socceroos England then Portugal, though they love Ronaldo, King Ronnie. BTW I was in Croatia, in Split when Croatia qualified for final in 2018. First time ever in a country that qualified for the final, it was mental, though my English brother in law was not happy & wanted to go back to hotel.
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+x+xWatching Korea now they have actually looked really good going forward despite the scoreline- Alisson has simply been outstanding. I only watched the mini match but I'm curious to see how Brasil will go against a proper Euro team. South Korea actually carved out more chances than they should have even before the game was dead Brazil was already leading 4-0 that's why. Sth Korea have to go all out while Brazil shift down to 2nd gear.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah my boys hope Xhaka the hacka doesn't get near CR7 ruin his hair or Fernandes (< who rolls over from a gust of wind) but they will do the Swiss, honarary mention Shaquiri does a worldy. Enjoy game LFC. I'm still all emotion out after the Aus v Argies game. I'm sure by tomorrow morning I will be willing to go thru all again. I'm sure we'll be on the highs again in the morning but I already was with the Cro game..... Blown by Brazil smoking em by mid 1st half. So your kids like mine have 3 teams to follow. I think mine are Socceroos England then Portugal, though they love Ronaldo, King Ronnie. BTW I was in Croatia, in Split when Croatia qualified for final in 2018. First time ever in a country that qualified for the final, it was mental, though my English brother in law was not happy & wanted to go back to hotel. yes mate but x 4, our Roos/floundering Azzuri/Portugal/Croatian running through their veins....... My boys now older have clamed down on the CR7 train, they just love the full squad now that its pretty damn good and should give the Cup a shake. Who knows now its getting to the business end whats to become, right now those pesky zillians and frogs look the suspects but you never know. I sure can't see the poms and sadly Cros go deeper coming up. haha the Pom bro inlaw - that would have been a buzz being there then, its very impressive Cros punching above their weight, love it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah my boys hope Xhaka the hacka doesn't get near CR7 ruin his hair or Fernandes (< who rolls over from a gust of wind) but they will do the Swiss, honarary mention Shaquiri does a worldy. Enjoy game LFC. I'm still all emotion out after the Aus v Argies game. I'm sure by tomorrow morning I will be willing to go thru all again. I'm sure we'll be on the highs again in the morning but I already was with the Cro game..... Blown by Brazil smoking em by mid 1st half. So your kids like mine have 3 teams to follow. I think mine are Socceroos England then Portugal, though they love Ronaldo, King Ronnie. BTW I was in Croatia, in Split when Croatia qualified for final in 2018. First time ever in a country that qualified for the final, it was mental, though my English brother in law was not happy & wanted to go back to hotel. yes mate but x 4, our Roos/floundering Azzuri/Portugal/Croatian running through their veins....... My boys now older have clamed down on the CR7 train, they just love the full squad now that its pretty damn good and should give the Cup a shake. Who knows now its getting to the business end whats to become, right now those pesky zillians and frogs look the suspects but you never know. I sure can't see the poms and sadly Cros go deeper coming up. haha the Pom bro inlaw - that would have been a buzz being there then, its very impressive Cros punching above their weight, love it. Yep imho, the Croats & balkans, best footballing (technical ability) countries per capita in the world.
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+x+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge We and Japan can improve and maybe even fluke it to QFs one day, but the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. I was willing someone, anyone to challenge the established supremacy this time, but in the end it's even worse than usual - 6 European nations + Brazil/Argentina in the quarters. It's so disgustingly predictable and I see no way of it ever changing. It's virtually impossible to break into that exclusive club if you're a non-Euro nation. They have all the resources and all the power. It is not a world game sadly. I agree as long as talent is measured by how many players you have in the big 5 European leagues it will always be this way. Because you can then assume that those big 5 nations will always have a few hundred players in those leagues, so the teams outside these league will never be able to compete on a consistent basis (can always make the odd run in a tournament format) apart from Brazil/Argentina. Yes and No Dont let hype get in the way of ability - England have won 1 WC in there entire history they have always had players at the top level I mean there golden generation flopped never even made a final Spain 1 WC and 2 Euros always had top players Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay all have more WC then the both two nations - you could easily argue Spain and England have the two best leagues in the world but i honestly couldnt name 5 clubs from Uruguay and i have been a football fan since i was 9 Holland have never won a world cup but they have 3 finals and the Dutch league produces great players but frankly it is not better then the J league Players wil always go were Money is - we need to make Asian clubs have more lucrative and we need the ACL to compete with the UCL and right now the ACL is not even on the level of Europa - the ACL is such a joke id rather it didnt exist if they are not going to do it properly. The Prize money should be >30m USD for the winner and every team competing should get at least 4m USD We need to realise Australia and Asia are now intertwined the only way for us to succeed is if the entire confederation improves - this is way i have always been in favor of both Russia and Turkey joining the AFC and why i hate our involvement with NZ and the NZ FA as it hurts the AFC and thus hurts us. (it is also why i hate the salary cap, and 3+1 rule) Uruguay haven't made the final since 1950 though, surely money wasn't relevant then . Every other world cup has been won by those top leagues + Brazil and Argentina. Even England have improved significantly recently but hopefully continue to bottle it. As others have pointed out we really need to get money into the ACL somehow. Surely the rich Arabs can stop investing in the premier league and invest in Asian football.
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+xJapan are not far off in fact they have come a long way, I think what's really holding them back now is their mentality. They are technically and now physically too, tactically they can always improve their playing style so that comes down to their coaches maybe they missing a top class coach I dont think the current coach is that good. Maybe they need a Bielsa more than us, I cant imagine what they will be like if they played in a high pressing system with their already world class technical ability. And to be fair it was always going to be a tough ask for South Korea against Brazil who look like they will make the final, they looking very strong. They also need a few more players in the top leagues but they can match it with teams on a technical level quite easily. Japan had a bit of a weird World Cup. They were very poor early v Germany and it could have easily looked like the Brazil Korea game if Germany took their chances and Japans World Cup is probably over before they score. Having a possession count that low against the top teams requires a lot of luck to win. The reverse then happened against Costa Rica and I thought they were pretty stiff this morning.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge We and Japan can improve and maybe even fluke it to QFs one day, but the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. I was willing someone, anyone to challenge the established supremacy this time, but in the end it's even worse than usual - 6 European nations + Brazil/Argentina in the quarters. It's so disgustingly predictable and I see no way of it ever changing. It's virtually impossible to break into that exclusive club if you're a non-Euro nation. They have all the resources and all the power. It is not a world game sadly. I agree as long as talent is measured by how many players you have in the big 5 European leagues it will always be this way. Because you can then assume that those big 5 nations will always have a few hundred players in those leagues, so the teams outside these league will never be able to compete on a consistent basis (can always make the odd run in a tournament format) apart from Brazil/Argentina. Yes and No Dont let hype get in the way of ability - England have won 1 WC in there entire history they have always had players at the top level I mean there golden generation flopped never even made a final Spain 1 WC and 2 Euros always had top players Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay all have more WC then the both two nations - you could easily argue Spain and England have the two best leagues in the world but i honestly couldnt name 5 clubs from Uruguay and i have been a football fan since i was 9 Holland have never won a world cup but they have 3 finals and the Dutch league produces great players but frankly it is not better then the J league Players wil always go were Money is - we need to make Asian clubs have more lucrative and we need the ACL to compete with the UCL and right now the ACL is not even on the level of Europa - the ACL is such a joke id rather it didnt exist if they are not going to do it properly. The Prize money should be >30m USD for the winner and every team competing should get at least 4m USD We need to realise Australia and Asia are now intertwined the only way for us to succeed is if the entire confederation improves - this is way i have always been in favor of both Russia and Turkey joining the AFC and why i hate our involvement with NZ and the NZ FA as it hurts the AFC and thus hurts us. (it is also why i hate the salary cap, and 3+1 rule) Uruguay haven't made the final since 1950 though, surely money wasn't relevant then . Every other world cup has been won by those top leagues + Brazil and Argentina. Even England have improved significantly recently but hopefully continue to bottle it. As others have pointed out we really need to get money into the ACL somehow. Surely the rich Arabs can stop investing in the premier league and invest in Asian football. I agree with the 2nd part but Uruguay came 4th in 2010 and make the 1/4 finals in 2018 compared to England that came 4th in 2018 but were knocked in the group or round of 16 in every world cup in 1990 (bar Germany) prior to the 92 the (the existence of the Premier League) would you argue Serie A was the best league in the world. Obviously we need more players playing in the top leagues of Europe but that would happen natrually if we had 'top leagues' ourselves but it wont ever happen until the ACL had 'real' prize money - J-League is a good example Japan has players heading to Europe for decent fees every season now and actually performing very well, as does Korea. I have been bagging this shit show of a competition that is the ACL since the day the AL sides started competing in it - the prize money is a joke you literally get 4m for WINNING the ACL WTF is that shit you get almost that much for getting knocked out of the groups in Europa League (no not UCL, the ECL) (for comparison)
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+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. They keep expanding the world cup to help the other federations and FIFA aren't stopping kids in Australia playing with a ball outside in their spare time. What a weird comment. Should the big euro leagues send their advertising money to Jeonbuk Motors?
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+x+x+xWatching Korea now they have actually looked really good going forward despite the scoreline- Alisson has simply been outstanding. I only watched the mini match but I'm curious to see how Brasil will go against a proper Euro team. South Korea actually carved out more chances than they should have even before the game was dead Brazil was already leading 4-0 that's why. Sth Korea have to go all out while Brazil shift down to 2nd gear. Like I said I only watched the mini match but yeah watching the highlights again I see only 2 decent SK efforts before the game was dead. Fair call. How was the dive for the 2nd goal though aha so ridiculous. You get more contact when you walk over a 10 cent piece in the street. Never change Brazil
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+x+x+x+x0/8 for AFC teams this WC tend to suggest that, in answer to OP, "No, Asia is NOT underrated" Maybe they need to pay more attention to their BPOs and BMIs and extrapolate their xG through North American gambling sites rather than relying on the Malaysian gambling market? There he is!!! I wasnt talking about Ronaldo's BMI Robbo, relax. hahahahahahahahah We all know he is perfect.... All the best for tomorrow, hope I dont have to start a new thread explaining why "Portugal is extremely overrated" hahahahahahah You have to see other post where I agree with you on Kuol's take down. Portugal are no way overrated, I think more underrated. They have 3 of the best player in the best team in England, one more a star of the no 5 team in Man U. Add a few more , plus the great man himself. But did you see Brazil this morning in 1st half, very very scary. hahahaha just taking the piss mate, teasing you.... VAMOS PORTUGAL..... and yes Brazil didnt seem to even get out of 2nd gear... they are looking lethal...
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I love Asian football but Brazil this morning was a different beast.
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+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. They keep expanding the world cup to help the other federations and FIFA aren't stopping kids in Australia playing with a ball outside in their spare time. What a weird comment. Should the big euro leagues send their advertising money to Jeonbuk Motors? I’m not suggesting anything like that. It is what it is. Europe has all the resources and all the power, and I don’t see it shifting in our lifetimes. Kids can play with the ball all they want here. It’s not gonna change the fact that they face far greater challenges in getting noticed and developing their skills than a kid in France or even bloody Croatia.
It’s just boring. European football really fucking bores me. Even the premier league has become deathly dull. I’d burn it all down and start again. Preferably with salary caps and no petro money.
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+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. Should the big euro leagues send their advertising money to Jeonbuk Motors? Actually maybe? It wouldn’t kill them to spread the wealth around a little. This uber-capitalistic status quo has sucked all the spirit and romance out of the game.
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+x+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. Should the big euro leagues send their advertising money to Jeonbuk Motors? Actually maybe? It wouldn’t kill them to spread the wealth around a little. This uber-capitalistic status quo has sucked all the spirit and romance out of the game. im not having ago at you - but according to who...you...football is the most watched, participated and love sport in the world it has more money in it then any other code there are more professional players then any other sport etc essential in every metric it is 'successful' and more successful then any other sport..... you might not 'like' being a weaker nation/confederation but it suits UEFA just fine - the issue is the Asian confederation needs to 'fix its shit' it has the most money and the large population to pool fans from but it has for a long time under-performed. China is probably the biggest bottle job despite having billions poured into the CSL the league is still rubbish and the Chinese national team has only ever been to 1 world cup in 2002 in which they lost every game the positive is we have a LOT we can improve on and could match and one day Surpass UEFA DO NOT under-estimate the potential Asian football has.....the negative is self interest and politics will likely mean we may never reach that potential - Saudi Arabia is a shit nation whe it comes to football but they are spending 200m a season on a last legs Cristiano Ronaldo in which 50 fans and there dog will watch instead of using that money to improve West Asian - the 'short sightedness is insane' instead of building our/their own CR or Messi they blow all the money in the world on a player at the end of his career - i would love CR to play but with 200m you could probably produce 50 top/world class players.
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+x+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. Should the big euro leagues send their advertising money to Jeonbuk Motors? Actually maybe? It wouldn’t kill them to spread the wealth around a little. This uber-capitalistic status quo has sucked all the spirit and romance out of the game. I'd rather watch the EPL as it is today vs the 1st Division it was then.........inabilty to attract skillful players whilst playing on muddy fields.
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For me England Portugal France and Brazil are the most impressive sides
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+xFor me England Portugal France and Brazil are the most impressive sides Just Brazil and France i dont know why so many people are rating England they have by far the 'easiest' run so far - if they beat France then sure they should be in the conversation
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I think Asia being underrated is mostly because the US media is a loud voice and continue to overrate the likes of the USMNT, Mexico, Canada etc.
It's clear to me that the AFC is the 4th best confederation in the world. Both clubs and countries on the whole are better than Concacaf.
Africa is a clear 3rd (still) at this moment in time, but the gap is closing between AFC & CAF.
Europe & South America is still way ahead.
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+xI think Asia being underrated is mostly because the US media is a loud voice and continue to overrate the likes of the USMNT, Mexico, Canada etc. It's clear to me that the AFC is the 4th best confederation in the world. Both clubs and countries on the whole are better than Concacaf. Africa is a clear 3rd (still) at this moment in time, but the gap is closing between AFC & CAF. Europe & South America is still way ahead. AFC equal with Africa for third.. someone did a win % breakdown of each confed from the last 20 yrs.. AFC was about equal with Africa
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+x+xAsian super league and the money it would attract is the future Hadn't really thought about this idea since it was mooted about 20 years ago. As long as there were very few foreigners playing for teams in it, like 2 per team, it could lift the standard of football in the region. How could an Asian Superleague manifest in what form? Promo-releg? Maybe it should be East Asia? 20 team league? Japan - 2-3 teams - Tokyo - ? South Korea - 2-3 teams - Seoul and Busan China - 2-3 teams - a Shanghai team and a Beijing team India - 2-3 teams - 1 team based in Delhi the other in Chennai North Korea - 1 team Australia - 2-3 teams - SFC, Melb City, Brisbane Roar (based on population centres). Vietnam - 2 teams Malaysia - 1 team Indonesia - 1 team Thailand - 2 teams Vietnam - 2 teams Singapore - 1 team It could include? Kiwis (amalgamate Oceania with East Asia) - 1 team. Pacific Islands team - 1 team It could provide a superior pathway to mid- ranked European leagues for Aussie players, and coaches. Essentially ATM, as an international football entity, Australia is a superior international team in a big tournament context all over the globe, than the national teams of European countries where most of our players ply their trade in UEFA. Outside the big UEFA five leagues, and arguably Portugal, Netherlands, Belgium and Turkey, Aussie Socceroo aspirants would be better off playing in East Asian Superleague with a 40 match season. An East Asian Superleague might blast Aussie egg ball codes, and their corporate mates, and the hegemony the high profile they currently have in the Aus media out of the water too. Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Scotland, Austria, Greece, Italy, (a dismal failure by failing to qualify for the last 2 World Cups, no longer a current powerhouse), have less globally competitive national teams than the Socceroos ATM. Bottom club from each country in super league to have play off against winner of domestic league of said country
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+x+x+x+x+xKorea and Australia were never good enough, but it's a real shame for Japan. They could and should have beaten Croatia, but once it got to penalties, there was only ever one winner. It's disappointing how badly they folded under pressure when it really counted. Croatia much too experienced for them. It's really sad how this has gone. For all the talk of the unpredictable group stage and how well Asia and Africa have done, the second round has killed all optimism. Europe + Brazil/Argentina are just too strong. Everyone else is just an also ran. It will never change. The gap can only widen. It's stupid and boring. Fuck FIFA and fuck football. why is this fifa or footballs fault all three Asian teams were beaten by 'superior' sides with superior mentality there is no shame in losing to a better opposition there is shame in 'giving up' and not trying to better ourselves Japan and Australia should be proud for how they played - i personally am i know we got a long way to go but nothing 'easy' is worth doing. Korea is embarressing i wont lie 4-nil at half time and Brazil could be winning this 6-nil but Neymar has decided to do the party tricks instead of play football - needs to up them youtube highlights. anyway, it is why NFL and AFL will always been seen as 'shit sports' to the rest of the world - essentially you werent good at 'real' football so you made up a sport you can dominate in - instead of rising to the challenge the structure of football is simply too Euro-centric. It actively prevents smaller confederations from ever improving enough to truly challenge the traditional powers. Should the big euro leagues send their advertising money to Jeonbuk Motors? Actually maybe? It wouldn’t kill them to spread the wealth around a little. This uber-capitalistic status quo has sucked all the spirit and romance out of the game. FIFA has been spreading the wealth for 40 years. The trouble is that a large chunk of it has been into their private pockets.
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+x+xI think Asia being underrated is mostly because the US media is a loud voice and continue to overrate the likes of the USMNT, Mexico, Canada etc. It's clear to me that the AFC is the 4th best confederation in the world. Both clubs and countries on the whole are better than Concacaf. Africa is a clear 3rd (still) at this moment in time, but the gap is closing between AFC & CAF. Europe & South America is still way ahead. AFC equal with Africa for third.. someone did a win % breakdown of each confed from the last 20 yrs.. AFC was about equal with Africa yeh, but would anyone on this board seriously believe that the AFC is on par with Africa for playing talent? At any one time, the AFC might be able to muster 5 nations who can get a result against decent European teams, but Africa is always able to muster at least 10 at any one time.
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+x+x+xI think Asia being underrated is mostly because the US media is a loud voice and continue to overrate the likes of the USMNT, Mexico, Canada etc. It's clear to me that the AFC is the 4th best confederation in the world. Both clubs and countries on the whole are better than Concacaf. Africa is a clear 3rd (still) at this moment in time, but the gap is closing between AFC & CAF. Europe & South America is still way ahead. AFC equal with Africa for third.. someone did a win % breakdown of each confed from the last 20 yrs.. AFC was about equal with Africa yeh, but would anyone on this board seriously believe that the AFC is on par with Africa for playing talent?
At any one time, the AFC might be able to muster 5 nations who can get a result against decent European teams, but Africa is always able to muster at least 10 at any one time. Absolutely not, which is why I put CAF ahead of AFC. Let's put the statistics to one side. Player V Player, CAF are clear third when it comes to the quality that comes out of that confed. I will admit that a large number of CAF players are developed mostly by UEFA, but still, the talent production is undisputed. Are you telling me AFC have an equivalent to Salah & Mane? And that's only the beginning... Son is the only player that comes close.
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+x+x+x+xI think Asia being underrated is mostly because the US media is a loud voice and continue to overrate the likes of the USMNT, Mexico, Canada etc. It's clear to me that the AFC is the 4th best confederation in the world. Both clubs and countries on the whole are better than Concacaf. Africa is a clear 3rd (still) at this moment in time, but the gap is closing between AFC & CAF. Europe & South America is still way ahead. AFC equal with Africa for third.. someone did a win % breakdown of each confed from the last 20 yrs.. AFC was about equal with Africa yeh, but would anyone on this board seriously believe that the AFC is on par with Africa for playing talent?
At any one time, the AFC might be able to muster 5 nations who can get a result against decent European teams, but Africa is always able to muster at least 10 at any one time. Absolutely not, which is why I put CAF ahead of AFC. Let's put the statistics to one side. Player V Player, CAF are clear third when it comes to the quality that comes out of that confed. I will admit that a large number of CAF players are developed mostly by UEFA, but still, the talent production is undisputed. Are you telling me AFC have an equivalent to Salah & Mane? And that's only the beginning... Son is the only player that comes close. very much agree when comparing player pool - Son is the only stand out world class player the rest respectfully speaking are great squad players ie the many Japan players in Bundas don't stand out like Son in their Clubs. Whereas CAF look how many are class players for their Clubs. I really can't see the point beating the chest AFC is here or there compared to the others. Until we have a couple of AFC NT's get through to last 8 a couple of Cups NOT just 1 then you can have the discussion.
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