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+x+x+xIt’s really hard to believe these morons. We have by far the worst fans of any sport in Australia. If that is the case , do you have a solution ? Get new fans? Make normal people interested and keen to take their families to football. With strength in numbers, these devolved thugs would in time become irrelevant and die out. I see . So make it a " family friendly " environment at a- league games ? Interesting .
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+x+xhttps://medium.com/@arribaAUS/the-reality-of-the-australian-professional-leagues-d3f37f62969d
Much was made on New Year’s Eve 2020, when finally, after years of clamouring, the owners of the A-League clubs announced that they would be taking operational control and majority ownership of the A-League itself from Football Australia. There was fanfare, excitement and, crucially, hope; Australian football had found itself in a position where change for the sake of change was enough to enthuse Australian football fans. This same phenomenon was replicated in 2021, where the APL announced a four, maybe eight, year broadcast deal with Network 10 and Paramount Plus, which will be discussed in further detail later on in this piece. In both moments, there was little questioning of detail, planning, or what these decisions actually meant or would look like.
this bloke is spot on the money, and it continually surprises me how few have cottoned onto this. The A-league is now under the control of foreign interests. Silverlake and City are aligned and control 40% of the league just between themselves. Add to that whoever is controlling the Jets. Add to that SFC and WSW (the two clubs who would have voted with City and Silverlake in favour of selling the grand final to Sydney). So effectively, 4 clubs control the other 8. People still think the FA has some sort of oversight role, yeh, maybe ostensibly. But we just have to remember what happened with the transfer fee proposal to see that this group has the power to put the kybosh on anything the FA wants to implement. Conspiracy theories. The GF sell to NSW is purely about $$$ coming into the league. And ultimately to the club's. It is that simple. Nothing more. Nothing less What happened with the transfer fee proposal ?? You don't realise the biggest opponent to it is the PFA?
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+x+xIt’s really hard to believe these morons. We have by far the worst fans of any sport in Australia. If that is the case , do you have a solution ? Get new fans? Make normal people interested and keen to take their families to football. With strength in numbers, these devolved thugs would in time become irrelevant and die out. Incidents like this make that pretty much impossible though. It's clear that we are being held hostage by these "active support" imbeciles. Game really has no chance in this country with supporters like these.
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+xIt’s really hard to believe these morons. We have by far the worst fans of any sport in Australia. If that is the case , do you have a solution ?
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+xhttps://medium.com/@arribaAUS/the-reality-of-the-australian-professional-leagues-d3f37f62969d
Much was made on New Year’s Eve 2020, when finally, after years of clamouring, the owners of the A-League clubs announced that they would be taking operational control and majority ownership of the A-League itself from Football Australia. There was fanfare, excitement and, crucially, hope; Australian football had found itself in a position where change for the sake of change was enough to enthuse Australian football fans. This same phenomenon was replicated in 2021, where the APL announced a four, maybe eight, year broadcast deal with Network 10 and Paramount Plus, which will be discussed in further detail later on in this piece. In both moments, there was little questioning of detail, planning, or what these decisions actually meant or would look like.
this bloke is spot on the money, and it continually surprises me how few have cottoned onto this. The A-league is now under the control of foreign interests. Silverlake and City are aligned and control 40% of the league just between themselves. Add to that whoever is controlling the Jets. Add to that SFC and WSW (the two clubs who would have voted with City and Silverlake in favour of selling the grand final to Sydney). So effectively, 4 clubs control the other 8. People still think the FA has some sort of oversight role, yeh, maybe ostensibly. But we just have to remember what happened with the transfer fee proposal to see that this group has the power to put the kybosh on anything the FA wants to implement. The FA will now have the power to punish the Victory, and no one is going to go against that because who doesn't want to see the Victory lose points and be taken down a peg or two? For City and the Sydney clubs it's win win!!
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+xC’mon people. Trev and Muz are clearly not justifying the actions of the morons. They are simply pointing out that it is no coincidence that emotions were running high at today’s game. Everyone on this forum was encouraging fans to stand up against the APL decision. Now you’re all pretending that the APL decision had nothing to do with heightened emotions. Of course it did.
It’s almost impossible to believe that it is less than two weeks since I was standing in Park Road, Milton watching a last minute shot from Kuol almost take Argentina into extra time … today is a total disaster. Thanks Clockwork
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+xUnfortunately, this is just a reflection on the cultural problems Anglo football fans have exhibited for decades. They should just leave their loutish behaviour back in England and not bring it to Australia. There is no place for it and it sickens me to see so many apologists trying to deflect by saying it's only a few idiots when clearly it's an Anglo club cultural issue. They should be kicked out of the league.... 200 IQ post. Reads like a time-capsule with the anti-ethnic rhetoric from NSL days. Well played.
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So without talking about the pitch invasion as such. Izzos end copped more flares than Glovers but he didn't do anything stupid. Glover throws one back, very provocatively close to the fence, then later throws one into the crowd. Didn't Vukovic get 12 months for a high five? I feel like Glovers careers could be on the ropes, not only is it dangerous it brings the game into disrepute, a pitch invasion wasn't on the cards until a flare was thrown into the crowd.
Honestly I can't see how he doesn't get multiple years. Or more.
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+xUnfortunately, this is just a reflection on the cultural problems Anglo football fans have exhibited for decades. They should just leave their loutish behaviour back in England and not bring it to Australia. There is no place for it and it sickens me to see so many apologists trying to deflect by saying it's only a few idiots when clearly it's an Anglo club cultural issue. They should be kicked out of the league.... I'm sorry, but this is not entirely true. Whilst England is not without its faults as a footballing nation, Australia's problems with fan violence do not stem from Anglo football fans. I covered the game in Australia for close to ten years, and at no point were any of the fan troubles that I witnessed caused by Anglo fans. We have to accept that there are ethnic rivalries and issues that exist without Australian football. I don't see that as a bad thing when channeled and utilised properly, but your take is very wrong.
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Why wont Paramount put the replay up?!
There is finally something worth watching aha
What a night to decide to go to a Christmas market instead of staying home to watch the soccer.
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+xFair play to the referee. He showed some balls to get in the thick of it and try and protect the players. I will second this. Respect.
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+xIs that you shit-stirring again, Stan "Blackface" Grant? 🤨 Can someone ban this - oops, I just ate my own poop...?
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I want to support this thread. This Melb derby incident can potentially give the A-League the history and traditions that builds and grows a game on a national scale. I know it is a shocking incident to have happened but these two melb clubs just created a blood feud that can be absolutely epic. I want these two clubs to absolutely loathe each other. Heck, Victory could become that team that everyone absolutely hates and makes it more fierce than ever. City vs Victory can potentially become Celtic v Rangers, Boca v River Plate tier if we push it right. I know it's raw but tonight's events could become a catalyst of something fanatical that this nation craves and unite us more than ever.
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Wonder what comes out whether they invaded the pitch due to glover throwing the flair into the crowd or whether it was anger at apl
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C’mon people. Trev and Muz are clearly not justifying the actions of the morons. They are simply pointing out that it is no coincidence that emotions were running high at today’s game. Everyone on this forum was encouraging fans to stand up against the APL decision. Now you’re all pretending that the APL decision had nothing to do with heightened emotions. Of course it did.
It’s almost impossible to believe that it is less than two weeks since I was standing in Park Road, Milton watching a last minute shot from Kuol almost take Argentina into extra time … today is a total disaster.
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https://medium.com/@arribaAUS/the-reality-of-the-australian-professional-leagues-d3f37f62969d
Much was made on New Year’s Eve 2020, when finally, after years of clamouring, the owners of the A-League clubs announced that they would be taking operational control and majority ownership of the A-League itself from Football Australia. There was fanfare, excitement and, crucially, hope; Australian football had found itself in a position where change for the sake of change was enough to enthuse Australian football fans. This same phenomenon was replicated in 2021, where the APL announced a four, maybe eight, year broadcast deal with Network 10 and Paramount Plus, which will be discussed in further detail later on in this piece. In both moments, there was little questioning of detail, planning, or what these decisions actually meant or would look like.
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Fair play to the referee. He showed some balls to get in the thick of it and try and protect the players.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWalk out, great Flares, fine (but don't throw them) Pitch invasion (when necessary) But never fucking touch a players or official.
I'm a victory fan and this has fucked us Yeah it’s not good at all. I'm sure 99% of victory fans feels the same way. Here was the chance to stick together against a shit decision and a handful of fuck sticks have ruined it. Nail head No. Because the APL just would have taken the walkout on the chin and carried on as usual. Have to admire the kahunas of the lads that invaded the pitch. Good on them. Went pear shaped after that as we all saw. Anyway fuck the APL. In some ways I hope this hastens the demise of the A league. Well this event does put it back on the APL to respond. They were probably chuckling away at some of the small protests so far and thought they'd gotten away with it. Now with this they're probably thinking 'ahh geez now we have to go back to work and do something. This will give me more work.' Huh? There was never much chance of them backing out, but these actions have taken that option away from them. I mean this event will be an annoyance to the APL's current work flow. They'd been hoping to turn up Monday after a few banner protests and that's that. Now they're going to be annoyed about having to deal with something so large. This will affect their course to a certain extent. Well I can't see it reversing the decision. What this will achieve is: - Reduce the support of the league by the community - Reduce sponsorship, TV deals and overall revenue of the league What a shit show. I'm not saying the decision will be reversed. I'm saying the APL now have an annoyance when they wish they'd have breezed through the weekend.
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+x+xAll you’ve been doing since it happened is justifying it. First the APL decision “explained it”, then it was implicitly fine because you hoped it would hasten the demise of the aleague, now you post Glover throwing a flare back as an excuse. Dunno what the fuck is wrong with you. You won't be happy to hear that inciting the crowd is a red card offence. Technically Glover could be cited and banned. ”Glover really had no business throwing it back into the crowd. I can understand him being frustrated and annoyed, but it was like a red rag to a bull. Of course it doesn’t justify the assault at all, but jeez, what an idiot. He probably deserves a sanction himself.” is what I posted in another thread. So I agree. It’s just your general attitude that kind of creeps me out. It’s like you’re happy that Australian football got dealt such a devastating blow. I simply do not understand it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWalk out, great Flares, fine (but don't throw them) Pitch invasion (when necessary) But never fucking touch a players or official.
I'm a victory fan and this has fucked us Yeah it’s not good at all. I'm sure 99% of victory fans feels the same way. Here was the chance to stick together against a shit decision and a handful of fuck sticks have ruined it. Nail head No. Because the APL just would have taken the walkout on the chin and carried on as usual. Have to admire the kahunas of the lads that invaded the pitch. Good on them. Went pear shaped after that as we all saw. Anyway fuck the APL. In some ways I hope this hastens the demise of the A league. Well this event does put it back on the APL to respond. They were probably chuckling away at some of the small protests so far and thought they'd gotten away with it. Now with this they're probably thinking 'ahh geez now we have to go back to work and do something. This will give me more work.' Huh? There was never much chance of them backing out, but these actions have taken that option away from them. I mean this event will be an annoyance to the APL's current work flow. They'd been hoping to turn up Monday after a few banner protests and that's that. Now they're going to be annoyed about having to deal with something so large. This will affect their course to a certain extent. Well I can't see it reversing the decision. What this will achieve is: - Reduce the support of the league by the community - Reduce sponsorship, TV deals and overall revenue of the league What a shit show. And therefore ironically making the league even more dependent on cash grab solutions like Sydney hosting finals. They've guaranteed the very thing they wanted to prevent.
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+xAll you’ve been doing since it happened is justifying it. First the APL decision “explained it”, then it was implicitly fine because you hoped it would hasten the demise of the aleague, now you post Glover throwing a flare back as an excuse. Dunno what the fuck is wrong with you. You won't be happy to hear that inciting the crowd is a red card offence. Technically Glover could be cited and banned.
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+xAll you’ve been doing since it happened is justifying it. First the APL decision “explained it”, then it was implicitly fine because you hoped it would hasten the demise of the aleague, now you post Glover throwing a flare back as an excuse. Dunno what the fuck is wrong with you. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you. The video shows what happened just before the pitch invasion. I'm not blaming Glover at all. Did Glover throw the flare back into the crowd? It appears he did. Does that mean they can run on the field and assault him? No it does not.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWalk out, great Flares, fine (but don't throw them) Pitch invasion (when necessary) But never fucking touch a players or official.
I'm a victory fan and this has fucked us Yeah it’s not good at all. I'm sure 99% of victory fans feels the same way. Here was the chance to stick together against a shit decision and a handful of fuck sticks have ruined it. Nail head No. Because the APL just would have taken the walkout on the chin and carried on as usual. Have to admire the kahunas of the lads that invaded the pitch. Good on them. Went pear shaped after that as we all saw. Anyway fuck the APL. In some ways I hope this hastens the demise of the A league. Well this event does put it back on the APL to respond. They were probably chuckling away at some of the small protests so far and thought they'd gotten away with it. Now with this they're probably thinking 'ahh geez now we have to go back to work and do something. This will give me more work.' Huh? There was never much chance of them backing out, but these actions have taken that option away from them. I mean this event will be an annoyance to the APL's current work flow. They'd been hoping to turn up Monday after a few banner protests and that's that. Now they're going to be annoyed about having to deal with something so large. This will affect their course to a certain extent. Well I can't see it reversing the decision. What this will achieve is: - Reduce the support of the league by the community - Reduce sponsorship, TV deals and overall revenue of the league What a shit show.
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Unfortunately, this is just a reflection on the cultural problems Anglo football fans have exhibited for decades. They should just leave their loutish behaviour back in England and not bring it to Australia. There is no place for it and it sickens me to see so many apologists trying to deflect by saying it's only a few idiots when clearly it's an Anglo club cultural issue. They should be kicked out of the league....
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All you’ve been doing since it happened is justifying it. First the APL decision “explained it”, then it was implicitly fine because you hoped it would hasten the demise of the aleague, now you post Glover throwing a flare back as an excuse. Dunno what the fuck is wrong with you.
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Muz
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Glover appearing to throw the flare back into the crowd https://twitter.com/tomcanetti/status/1604047898026864640?t=Drew_pPRDzRJZr7nORd_6Q&s=19
Calm the fuck down. I'm not justifying it. I'm just posting twitter videos
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Due to Glover throwing a flare back into the crowd.
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