The Aussies Abroad Thread 2


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johnszasz - 23 Jan 2023 7:48 PM
Hrustic has a certain passion but his arrogance or more so lack of team play gets in the way.

I think his absence actually gives us fewer selection headaches on formation and combination. 

what are you talking about
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johnszasz - 23 Jan 2023 7:48 PM
Hrustic has a certain passion but his arrogance or more so lack of team play gets in the way. I really like his attitude in the toess conference. We need more of that. He did a lot to get us there. Maybe it went to his head. I don't know. I trust Arnold to clarify everything.

I think his absence actually gives us fewer selection headaches on formation and combination. 

Da fuq? 

Selection headaches are a good thing. Mcgree is doing well but has he played Bundeglisa? 

Hrustic is probably the only attacking, midfield player in the team who has genuine top 5 capability. Maybe Rogic. McGee perhaps one day. If he’s a bit arrogant so what, imagine committing to Australia and then having to share the paddock with players from J2. 


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roosty - 23 Jan 2023 8:37 PM
johnszasz - 23 Jan 2023 7:48 PM

Da fuq? 

Selection headaches are a good thing. Mcgree is doing well but has he played Bundeglisa? 

Hrustic is probably the only attacking, midfield player in the team who has genuine top 5 capability. Maybe Rogic. McGee perhaps one day. If he’s a bit arrogant so what, imagine committing to Australia and then having to share the paddock with players from J2. 


It wasn't just arrogance, it was trotting around refusing to track back. In modern football the expectation is now that all 10 out fielders are fully involved in defensive play, be it pressing, marking etc. Hrustic often doesn't, and in addition he's slow and ponderous on the ball. He's great against teams that give us that, but every time we've played teams that take the game to us he often goes missing or makes terrible decisions.

Don't get me wrong, he's a brilliant player to have because it's often those games against Vietnam, Jordan, Iraq etc when we're breaking down a packed defence that he can prove his worth, but he's not by any means a lock for the starting XI especially against better teams.

If he did happen to have a problem sharing a pitch with J2 players (I'm sure he doesn't) then I'd never call him up again, absolutely no one is bigger than the team. If the reports from the world cup and club level are true then he does need a serious attitude adjustment 
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We've struggled immensely to pick a functioning midfield and I think clearing a few players out can actually get something more cohesive and settled. While competition for spits is healthy, the coaching staff are overwhelmed with choice and it's been hard to settle on a midfield.

Some on here may not have noticed Hrustic's antics during and after Argentina. That's what I'm referring to. I don't know. Is it good to berate your team mates and gesture to the bench and storm off down the tunnel at ft? I enjoyed his confident in the pre game press conference but it really his lack of concern for the team came to a peak post Argentina by gesturing the the bench and Arnold at ft and being the only one of 26 not to be on the pitch post game. A talent that needs handling. 
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johnszasz - 23 Jan 2023 8:57 PM
We've struggled immensely to pick a functioning midfield and I think clearing a few players out can actually get something more cohesive and settled. While competition for spits is healthy, the coaching staff are overwhelmed with choice and it's been hard to settle on a midfield.

Some on here may not have noticed Hrustic's antics during and after Argentina. That's what I'm referring to. I don't know. Is it good to berate your team mates and gesture to the bench and storm off down the tunnel at ft? I enjoyed his confident in the pre game press conference but it really his lack of concern for the team came to a peak post Argentina by gesturing the the bench and Arnold at ft and being the only one of 26 not to be on the pitch post game. A talent that needs handling. 

Nothing wrong with passion, we all process disappointment in our own way. I’d rather see storming down the tunnel than trying to get selfies and jersey swaps with Messi. 
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roosty - 23 Jan 2023 7:14 PM
Can’T believe the comments about Hrustic. Was arguably our best player during qualifying, scored critical goals including one against UAE that basically saved our WC campaign. Plays at a higher level than anyone and first Aussie to achieve Europa Cup glory.

Was shite at World Cup in limited minutes but hard to excel in garbage minutes and on one leg. 

Yeah totally agree, he was a stand out during qualifying. Later in the campaign, he was being played out of position - he's our best number 10 when fit, we just need to find a quality number 6 to play behind him. Mooy's best position is 8 or 10 - not quick enough to play number 6 against the top countries & Irvine busts his guts for us, but doesn't really have the top tier quality we need. Hrustic was injured at the WC & probably shouldn't have gone. 
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SoccerooFan - 23 Jan 2023 9:21 PM
roosty - 23 Jan 2023 7:14 PM

Yeah totally agree, he was a stand out during qualifying. Later in the campaign, he was being played out of position - he's our best number 10 when fit, we just need to find a quality number 6 to play behind him. Mooy's best position is 8 or 10 - not quick enough to play number 6 against the top countries & Irvine busts his guts for us, but doesn't really have the top tier quality we need. Hrustic was injured at the WC & probably shouldn't have gone. 

Fair point being played out position. No faulting his performances. I just lament how the campaign ended.
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roosty - 23 Jan 2023 9:02 PM
johnszasz - 23 Jan 2023 8:57 PM

Nothing wrong with passion, we all process disappointment in our own way. I’d rather see storming down the tunnel than trying to get selfies and jersey swaps with Messi. 

Can't argue with that. Was a bit cringy how some players scoped out Messi but they can do what they like in the end.
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roosty - 23 Jan 2023 7:14 PM
Can’T believe the comments about Hrustic. Was arguably our best player during qualifying, scored critical goals including one against UAE that basically saved our WC campaign. Plays at a higher level than anyone and first Aussie to achieve Europa Cup glory.

Was shite at World Cup in limited minutes but hard to excel in garbage minutes and on one leg. 

It doesn't matter if he playing for Barcelona if he didn't show it on the pitch. I have watched every single games of Socceroos including every games in world cup qualification. The only games that he showed his intelligence and did very well was against Taiwan (away game) as a super sub he was brilliant in that game and he was dangerous at set piece free kick.

  Just because he scored against Kuwait, Japan (away)  and UAE (playoff) doest mean he had a good game. All of these games he playing are either okay or awful. Turnovers, making wrong decision,  He usually took 2 second longer than every decent players and then got caught n lost possession. 

He was awful as a winger with no ability to dibble past anyone (I mean anyone half decent in Asia qualification).  I can confidently said that cuz I have watched every games and have high hopes for him  cuz he was the only one in Bundesliga at the time. And @ the world cup , he was terrible at pressing and everytime he was near the ball you can expect turnovers.
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Hibs forums seem to be pretty optimistic about Jeggos debut despite the 3-0 defeat. Apparently got stuck in but not the best on-the-ball. Covered a lot at RB from DM. They must be having trouble in that position that gives me hope for Miller. 
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Quicky - 23 Jan 2023 11:07 PM
Hibs forums seem to be pretty optimistic about Jeggos debut despite the 3-0 defeat. Apparently got stuck in but not the best on-the-ball. Covered a lot at RB from DM. They must be having trouble in that position that gives me hope for Miller. 

Miller needs to be given a go. Before he left he was the best RB in the a league, now he can't even get on the pitch. 
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SoccerooFan - 23 Jan 2023 9:21 PM
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Yeah totally agree, he was a stand out during qualifying. Later in the campaign, he was being played out of position - he's our best number 10 when fit, we just need to find a quality number 6 to play behind him. Mooy's best position is 8 or 10 - not quick enough to play number 6 against the top countries & Irvine busts his guts for us, but doesn't really have the top tier quality we need. Hrustic was injured at the WC & probably shouldn't have gone. 

Disagree with this. The best Hrustic has played for us so far has been as a RW cutting in and using his wand of a left peg. He is an interesting player in that he is technically excellent but tactically poor - makes some horrendous decisions which is why i think he's better on the wing than in the middle. Bit lightweight too for the middle. I actually think Mcgree is better suited to the wing also. A front 4 of RW Hrustic, AM Rogic, LW Mcgree and CF Boyle has some serious quality to it.. perhaps the best we've had since the golden gen, with Mooy and Bacchus in behind as the dual 6's. 

Disagree with people saying he doesn't track back either - i was at the Peru game and he ran his heart out. 
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Disagree with this. The best Hrustic has played for us so far has been as a RW cutting in and using his wand of a left peg. He is an interesting player in that he is technically excellent but tactically poor - makes some horrendous decisions which is why i think he's better on the wing than in the middle. Bit lightweight too for the middle. I actually think Mcgree is better suited to the wing also. A front 4 of RW Hrustic, AM Rogic, LW Mcgree and CF Boyle has some serious quality to it.. perhaps the best we've had since the golden gen, with Mooy and Bacchus in behind as the dual 6's. 

Disagree with people saying he doesn't track back either - i was at the Peru game and he ran his heart out. 

I felt against Japan as dire as it was that at least Hrustic out wide gave us some time up the other end. 

With Mabil not going particularly well and Leckie and Goodwin slowly departing, McGree on the wing like he is for Boro makes good sense. Of course Kuol excites and we've got a decent bunch behind the front too. 
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I just don't think Hrustic has much respect for Arnie.. I remember during the playoff games I would only ever see him talking to Rene. The guy has worked under some incredible coaches in his career in Holland and Germany and his club winning the UEL just made his head even bigger.

He is a genuine weapon from set pieces how long has it been since we had one? Bresc? Mooy is great but doesn't produce the shots from distance that Adjen can.
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johnszasz - 23 Jan 2023 4:01 AM
3:0 for Hearts. No time for Kuol but a bit for Atkinson at the end. Iredale subbed on at the end in a 3:2 win for Wiesbaden. Karacic started in a loss. Kalik scored for Hadjuk Split. Would take Kalik over Hrustic currently.


What is Kaliks best position? There is a lot of competition in midfield atm. 
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I was disappointed to read WSW playing down support for a move of Nieuwenhof to Celtic. I think there's every chance he's the NT's future at 6. I think he'd do well OS. 
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jas88 - 24 Jan 2023 3:06 PM
I just don't think Hrustic has much respect for Arnie.. I remember during the playoff games I would only ever see him talking to Rene. The guy has worked under some incredible coaches in his career in Holland and Germany and his club winning the UEL just made his head even bigger.

He is a genuine weapon from set pieces how long has it been since we had one? Bresc? Mooy is great but doesn't produce the shots from distance that Adjen can.

There are the 2 problems.

His head is too big for his ability. He is technically very good but can and does make a number of wrong decisions that put the team under pressure. Australia does not have the best players - we need to have the best team and that may mean some of the best players (technically) miss out because they actually make the team poorer. 

Yes - he is a genuine weapon from set pieces (at times) but he can also be overly convinced of his own ability and be quite wasteful.

I think he can be an important part of the Socceroos but he needs to improve his decision making (others have said he doesn't track back but I don't think he does that badly in that area at all). I also prefer him playing wide right and cutting back in.  
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patjennings - 25 Jan 2023 12:07 AM
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There are the 2 problems.

His head is too big for his ability. He is technically very good but can and does make a number of wrong decisions that put the team under pressure. Australia does not have the best players - we need to have the best team and that may mean some of the best players (technically) miss out because they actually make the team poorer. 

Yes - he is a genuine weapon from set pieces (at times) but he can also be overly convinced of his own ability and be quite wasteful.

I think he can be an important part of the Socceroos but he needs to improve his decision making (others have said he doesn't track back but I don't think he does that badly in that area at all). I also prefer him playing wide right and cutting back in.  

This exactly expresses my thoughts on him
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Can we stop sniping at our own players? We've done this for years now and you guys seem intent on continuing that. Hrustic is our most technically talented player - aside from Volpato. He's not a world class player, but he's been very good for us. He worked very hard to return for the World Cup and showed how much it meant to him to be there. He'll be a crucial part of our future. 
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sportaddict - 25 Jan 2023 10:41 AM
Can we stop sniping at our own players? We've done this for years now and you guys seem intent on continuing that. Hrustic is our most technically talented player - aside from Volpato. He's not a world class player, but he's been very good for us. He worked very hard to return for the World Cup and showed how much it meant to him to be there. He'll be a crucial part of our future. 

I think you'll find people are accepting that he is one of, if it not the most, technically gifted players we have. They also accept that he is an important player for us going forward. That should not stop us critiquing (not sniping at) our own players. Do you think he cannot improve his decision making? 
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roosty - 23 Jan 2023 7:14 PM
Can’T believe the comments about Hrustic. Was arguably our best player during qualifying, scored critical goals including one against UAE that basically saved our WC campaign. Plays at a higher level than anyone and first Aussie to achieve Europa Cup glory.


No he wasn't. Granted he had moments but he was incredibly disappointing overall. 

I think the general consensus is he is our best player on paper but apart from a few outstanding free kicks he hasn't really shown it for the socceroos.

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it's also been a frustrating 12-18 months, most the time he was coming off the bench for Frankfurt he was a DM... then he gets injured before the world cup(his life dream) so I can understand him being frustrated... he's only 26... next world cup he will be smarter and sharper hopefully.
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A huge congratulations to Awer Mabil! 🇦🇺👏

The 27-year-old Socceroo has been announced as the Young Australian of the Year for 2023!
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Disagree with this. The best Hrustic has played for us so far has been as a RW cutting in and using his wand of a left peg. He is an interesting player in that he is technically excellent but tactically poor - makes some horrendous decisions which is why i think he's better on the wing than in the middle. Bit lightweight too for the middle. I actually think Mcgree is better suited to the wing also. A front 4 of RW Hrustic, AM Rogic, LW Mcgree and CF Boyle has some serious quality to it.. perhaps the best we've had since the golden gen, with Mooy and Bacchus in behind as the dual 6's. 

Disagree with people saying he doesn't track back either - i was at the Peru game and he ran his heart out. 

RW? As a winger you have to be able to run the ball past the opponent. Hrustic couldn't go past anyone cuz he is too slow.  
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4:1 win for Alkmaar with Ryan conceding a penalty in added time. AZ in first place live table. PSV lost last night and Twente dropped points. Feyenoord poised this season. 
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RW? As a winger you have to be able to run the ball past the opponent. Hrustic couldn't go past anyone cuz he is too slow.  

Before his ankle injury he wasn't slow. 
Also who says a winger has to be quick?! Thomas Broich was the best player in the A league for many seasons playing LW cutting in on his right foot. 
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johnszasz - 26 Jan 2023 6:59 AM
4:1 win for Alkmaar with Ryan conceding a penalty in added time. AZ in first place live table. PSV lost last night and Twente dropped points. Feyenoord poised this season. 

Wow Ryan's really landed on his feet I'm a big way only weeks after being a 2nd choice keeper in the inferior Danish league. Now starting goalkeeper for table leading Dutch league. If they win it he'll be playing champions league group stage 
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sportaddict - 25 Jan 2023 10:41 AM
Can we stop sniping at our own players? We've done this for years now and you guys seem intent on continuing that. Hrustic is our most technically talented player - aside from Volpato. He's not a world class player, but he's been very good for us. He worked very hard to return for the World Cup and showed how much it meant to him to be there. He'll be a crucial part of our future. 

Aside from Volpato and Rogic and Mooy. 
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patjennings - 25 Jan 2023 12:07 AM
jas88 - 24 Jan 2023 3:06 PM

There are the 2 problems.

His head is too big for his ability. He is technically very good but can and does make a number of wrong decisions that put the team under pressure. Australia does not have the best players - we need to have the best team and that may mean some of the best players (technically) miss out because they actually make the team poorer. 

Yes - he is a genuine weapon from set pieces (at times) but he can also be overly convinced of his own ability and be quite wasteful.

I think he can be an important part of the Socceroos but he needs to improve his decision making (others have said he doesn't track back but I don't think he does that badly in that area at all). I also prefer him playing wide right and cutting back in.  

100% agree with this. Never have I seen a player with such a gulf between his ability and his decision making. Its so frustrating as he could be an absolute weapon. Absolutely brilliant from set pieces though as well as crossing. 

The comment was made before about a winger having to be quick.  Was Beckham quick? No, but he was the best crosser probably ever. Playing Hrustic on the wing means he has to think less-  get ball, turn and play cross. 
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