NST phase 2 - The RFP


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EOI's evaluated followed by the Request for Proposal

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hopefully over 20 make the shortlist so indicate at least a 12 team comp
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Would like it to get to 14 team comp if possible that way 26 rounds play each other twice  would be same as current nplv
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West Adelaide now disappeared from the FSA submission ......

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numklpkgulftumch - 7 Mar 2023 12:31 PM
West Adelaide now disappeared from the FSA submission ......

Hmmm thats not that suprising from what I hear of them.....
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Football Australia chief executive James Johnson admits even he was taken aback by Cronulla Sharks’ surprise bid to join a proposed national second division, but says the NRL club’s interest should be warmly welcomed by the code.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/cronulla-sharks-throw-hat-in-the-ring-for-soccer-s-proposed-second-division-20230306-p5cpur.html
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former Newcastle Jets striker Daniel McBreen has indicated Valentine FC has received overseas backing.

https://www.espn.com.au/football/australian-a-league-men/story/4894913/football-australia-welcomes-nsd-interest-from-cronulla-sharks

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"We wanted to make this process open to as many clubs as possible," said Johnson. "The door was never closed to Sydney United and we want to keep that door open.

"Having said that, we do have some challenges with the club. Mainly around the Australia Cup final last year, which we're still working through with that club. We've got to work through that judicial process with the club, and the club needs to understand that some of the behaviours we saw at the Australia Cup final would not be welcome in the second tier.

"Does that exclude them from this competition? No, it doesn't, but it is a relevant factor."


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This open-mindedness from the executive also extends to the potential of foreign investment in the league. Three-time national champions Adelaide City announced a partnership with Serie A side Atalanta alongside their EOI. At the same time, former Newcastle Jets striker Daniel McBreen has indicated Valentine FC has received overseas backing.



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Munrubenmuz - 7 Mar 2023 3:05 PM

This open-mindedness from the executive also extends to the potential of foreign investment in the league. Three-time national champions Adelaide City announced a partnership with Serie A side Atalanta alongside their EOI. At the same time, former Newcastle Jets striker Daniel McBreen has indicated Valentine FC has received overseas backing.

Too good not to included here as well

https://twitter.com/NUFCgallowgate/status/1632869234781876226

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numklpkgulftumch - 7 Mar 2023 2:57 PM

"We wanted to make this process open to as many clubs as possible," said Johnson. "The door was never closed to Sydney United and we want to keep that door open.

"Having said that, we do have some challenges with the club. Mainly around the Australia Cup final last year, which we're still working through with that club. We've got to work through that judicial process with the club, and the club needs to understand that some of the behaviours we saw at the Australia Cup final would not be welcome in the second tier.

"Does that exclude them from this competition? No, it doesn't, but it is a relevant factor."



Reading between the lines:  if enough of the bids scrub up well - they have zero chance!

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Munrubenmuz - 7 Mar 2023 3:05 PM

Too good not to included here as well

https://twitter.com/NUFCgallowgate/status/1632869234781876226

apart from the fact that 777 don't own majority stake in MV ....yet

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numklpkgulftumch - 7 Mar 2023 2:19 PM
Football Australia chief executive James Johnson admits even he was taken aback by Cronulla Sharks’ surprise bid to join a proposed national second division, but says the NRL club’s interest should be warmly welcomed by the code.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/cronulla-sharks-throw-hat-in-the-ring-for-soccer-s-proposed-second-division-20230306-p5cpur.html

That's awesome. Would be cool to have more sporting associations like they do in Europe, here in Aus. Wishful thinking, but it would be a great way to end the code war here.


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That's awesome. Would be cool to have more sporting associations like they do in Europe, here in Aus. Wishful thinking, but it would be a great way to end the code war here.

The code war will never end.

Always looks nice and peaceful when soccer is in it's box and is not attracting the attention away from the 2 other foody codes. As soon as it starts to make some headway the gloves are off. 
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Regardless of foreign investment, the criteria for the NST will be slightly different from the ALeague, with the emphasis on local players being front and centre.
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Reading between the lines:  if enough of the bids scrub up well - they have zero chance!

There is not a chance in the world they are getting in. You can take it to the bank.
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numklpkgulftumch - 7 Mar 2023 4:12 PM
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apart from the fact that 777 don't own majority stake in MV ....yet

I thought this was "passed" by the board last week? Do any of the "shareholders" on here know?
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tsf - 8 Mar 2023 8:55 AM
bettega - 7 Mar 2023 4:12 PM

There is not a chance in the world they are getting in. You can take it to the bank.

Don't think its as "black and white" as that yet mate....  Don't care personally either way but JJ wouldnt have come out stating that they are "working with the club" if that was the case... I guess we just have to wait and see?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Mar 2023 9:35 AM
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Don't think its as "black and white" as that yet mate....  Don't care personally either way but JJ wouldnt have come out stating that they are "working with the club" if that was the case... I guess we just have to wait and see?

He probably just doesn't want to look biased. 

For a risk assessment, it just is too risky for not enough reward. Good club with good history won't count for anything. These people in HQ are accountants/corporates beholden to third parties - and all they care about is risks and reward. 
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tsf - 8 Mar 2023 9:46 AM
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He probably just doesn't want to look biased. 

For a risk assessment, it just is too risky for not enough reward. Good club with good history won't count for anything. These people in HQ are accountants/corporates beholden to third parties - and all they care about is risks and reward. 

I don't disagree but maybe they want to play off the "black sheep" mentality...  Having a problem club in the comp, from a marketing standpoint, can sometimes be a good thing.... Every cowboy movie has the black hats....



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No matter the politics re SU that is very understandable the FA quotes are expected, lets wait and see when the RFP is done and announced is all I would rest on not what people think on forums. 


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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Mar 2023 10:08 AM
tsf - 8 Mar 2023 9:46 AM

I don't disagree but maybe they want to play off the "black sheep" mentality...  Having a problem club in the comp, from a marketing standpoint, can sometimes be a good thing.... Every cowboy movie has the black hats....



well it certainly works for the AFL/NRL with racism/sex assaults :) 
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tsf - 8 Mar 2023 10:10 AM
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well it certainly works for the AFL/NRL with racism/sex assaults :) 

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tsf - 8 Mar 2023 8:55 AM
bettega - 7 Mar 2023 4:12 PM

There is not a chance in the world they are getting in. You can take it to the bank.

Yep, the continuation of decades of baggage is the last thing the FA would want, there's other safer options.
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Snippets from Joey Lynch article with Johnson

https://www.espn.com.au/football/australian-a-league-men/story/4895708/australias-national-second-tier-what-we-know-and-whats-next

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At its launch, the competition's administration is envisioned as being primarily funded by an annual licence fee paid by its clubs, with the federation also picking up some of the tab. Once the league is established, moves to establish a commercial program and commercialise will occur and, when the point is reached where the league reaches a point wherein it is generating enough revenue, the licence fee will begin to decrease over time.
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"We want to have confidence that this competition means something to the community," said Johnson. "If a club has history, it will be connected to the community, it means that the community care about the club.

"That's what we think will be the DNA of this competition. It has to be community centred and rooted in community."


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Promotion and relegation and the full linking of the pyramid remain a long-term goal but, in the league's early stages, a focus will be placed upon connecting the national second division with the NPLs below it; possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement between the second, and now third, tiers.
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