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Got to say about WTC - was there any official national media announcement this was being implemented for all sporting events ? All I noticed sometime ago the NRL started doing Welcome announcements before those heritage rounds or whatever you call them pre season and SOS recently. Did our beloved man of the moment PM make this formal ?
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+x+xpeople celebrating their heritage is 'racist' ? forcing everyone to participate in welcome to country is not racist ? forcing Children to wear pride jerseys or not letting them play if they refuse is not discrimination ? telling people you cannot participate in the AL for almost 2 decades due to their heritage is not racist ? [even though said clubs would do a much better job at getting support for the league then new clubs WU and MAC] the suits and FA have lost their mind no wonder why the leagues interest is at all time lows the sport needs a complete revamp and everyone at the top needs the sack First 2 lines are a contradiction of each other, isn't participating welcome to country celebrating your heritage? 3rd line, totally no understanding of the pride shirts. Lost me after that. wtf you smoking who's heritage? Aboriginals and TSI make but less then 3% of the population and no club has 'First Nations' origins nor do they have a bulk of fans from that culture.... the Australia cup final is a prime example of a crowd of 16500 people i would dare say not even 20 ppl in the crowd would of been of First nation origin forcing people to take part in WTC' and for that issuing a fine for those who refused to take part in it is racist. God people who support this shit are dumb You dont need to be welcomed to your own country, fire ceremonies were a joke done by Ernie Dingo like 30 years ago and the morons thought it is was an 'actually' thing and dot paintings originated from a Dutch (or maybe French) artist they have nothing to do with traditional FN culture but you have been sold a lie to 'feel bad' for crimes anyone who migrated here in the past 80 years have nothing to do with unfortunately we have an idiot of a Prime Minister pushing this 'voice' to parliament shit so the media will push the agenda not the fact or not 'actual' history
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah An iconic Italian made gun to be precise. Does it misfire and throw itself down on the ground when another gun is pulled on it? Its a much treasured keepsake in Greece.. Thousands of them where dropped in the mountains of Albania by fleeing Italian fascists in 1941 and they were lovingly used for hunting in the mountains of Greece for decades :) Founded in the 16th century. Still the oldest active manufactured gun in the world. And one of the best. Have a Beretta shotgun for clay targets, although it is an O/U field gun.
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+x+x+x+x+x2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable.... Realistically, we know there will be some fan issues at some point. It's football, it's a given. Let's just hope nothing too serious happens in the first season. Although knowing football in this country, something will probably happen in round 1. Coz we have to shoot ourselves in the foot, hand and shoulder with every opportunity we get. As for crowd numbers, there is plenty of buzz around at the moment so it should be converted into solid numbers for the first season. Hard to say after that, but I reckon it will be considered a success at the end of the first season. We know that there is a bunch of NSL era supporters that will be attracted to attend more games gain. How many, who knows, but they are out there. T he thing about them is that they are all at least 40+ now. Most will have kids, mortgages and perpetual sore backs now. They don't have the inclination and definitely don't have the energy to wear a flag as a cape and fight someone in the car park. Most of them will be happy to just be out of the house for a couple of hours, eat some junk food and shout at the ref with an old mate. Many will be keen to take their young ones to their childhood team and pass on the tradition. This is what we are ALL banking on mate..... Yeah there will be the odd one time warrior types that will try and get tehir 15 mins of teenage hoolinagins in but the consensus is that it is up to us "the old heads" to keep them in line... Screw you for the accurate description though.... that cut a little close to the bone. lol I'm in that 40+ group now too. I gotta say, I don't care for it. This whole perpetual sore back thing sucks. Tell me about it The comment really stung all the right places didn't it haha
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+x+x+x+x2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable.... Realistically, we know there will be some fan issues at some point. It's football, it's a given. Let's just hope nothing too serious happens in the first season. Although knowing football in this country, something will probably happen in round 1. Coz we have to shoot ourselves in the foot, hand and shoulder with every opportunity we get. As for crowd numbers, there is plenty of buzz around at the moment so it should be converted into solid numbers for the first season. Hard to say after that, but I reckon it will be considered a success at the end of the first season. We know that there is a bunch of NSL era supporters that will be attracted to attend more games gain. How many, who knows, but they are out there. T he thing about them is that they are all at least 40+ now. Most will have kids, mortgages and perpetual sore backs now. They don't have the inclination and definitely don't have the energy to wear a flag as a cape and fight someone in the car park. Most of them will be happy to just be out of the house for a couple of hours, eat some junk food and shout at the ref with an old mate. Many will be keen to take their young ones to their childhood team and pass on the tradition. This is what we are ALL banking on mate..... Yeah there will be the odd one time warrior types that will try and get tehir 15 mins of teenage hoolinagins in but the consensus is that it is up to us "the old heads" to keep them in line... Screw you for the accurate description though.... that cut a little close to the bone. lol I'm in that 40+ group now too. I gotta say, I don't care for it. This whole perpetual sore back thing sucks. Tell me about it
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah An iconic Italian made gun to be precise. Does it misfire and throw itself down on the ground when another gun is pulled on it? Its a much treasured keepsake in Greece.. Thousands of them where dropped in the mountains of Albania by fleeing Italian fascists in 1941 and they were lovingly used for hunting in the mountains of Greece for decades :) Founded in the 16th century. Still the oldest active manufactured gun in the world.
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+x+x+x2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable.... Realistically, we know there will be some fan issues at some point. It's football, it's a given. Let's just hope nothing too serious happens in the first season. Although knowing football in this country, something will probably happen in round 1. Coz we have to shoot ourselves in the foot, hand and shoulder with every opportunity we get. As for crowd numbers, there is plenty of buzz around at the moment so it should be converted into solid numbers for the first season. Hard to say after that, but I reckon it will be considered a success at the end of the first season. We know that there is a bunch of NSL era supporters that will be attracted to attend more games gain. How many, who knows, but they are out there. T he thing about them is that they are all at least 40+ now. Most will have kids, mortgages and perpetual sore backs now. They don't have the inclination and definitely don't have the energy to wear a flag as a cape and fight someone in the car park. Most of them will be happy to just be out of the house for a couple of hours, eat some junk food and shout at the ref with an old mate. Many will be keen to take their young ones to their childhood team and pass on the tradition. This is what we are ALL banking on mate..... Yeah there will be the odd one time warrior types that will try and get tehir 15 mins of teenage hoolinagins in but the consensus is that it is up to us "the old heads" to keep them in line... Screw you for the accurate description though.... that cut a little close to the bone. lol I'm in that 40+ group now too. I gotta say, I don't care for it. This whole perpetual sore back thing sucks.
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+x+x+xAll I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and 2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. All I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) Why cant the proposed solutions be the same as what theya re in the Aleague ???? Suspended sentences, no points deductions and pretend crowd shutouts?And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. What difference does THAT make??? Did Glover ask the guy that hit him with a bucket where his parents were born? Or where the bucket was made for that matter?Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and - so you expect a semi pro competition to attract minimum crowds only 500 less than the Aleague???? Thats not realistic2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable.... First sign of 'ethnic' themed trouble and we'll be back to where we started. The difference is IS THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. The media apparently seems to treat 'ethnic themed' violence different to run-of-the-mill violence. Like it or not, that's how it is. I'm not saying it's right I'm saying this is the danger of the new comp. First sign of an inter-ethnic 'riot' at one of these games and the broadcasters and sponsors will go running for cover and the media will be all over it. They love that shit. I'm bang up for the NST. I hope everyone can behave themselves. Don't know if thats the case anymore Muz... The media went pretty hard on bucket boy down here and no mention of any "Greekness" just the usual "Soccer shame" crap.
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+x+x2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable.... Realistically, we know there will be some fan issues at some point. It's football, it's a given. Let's just hope nothing too serious happens in the first season. Although knowing football in this country, something will probably happen in round 1. Coz we have to shoot ourselves in the foot, hand and shoulder with every opportunity we get. As for crowd numbers, there is plenty of buzz around at the moment so it should be converted into solid numbers for the first season. Hard to say after that, but I reckon it will be considered a success at the end of the first season. We know that there is a bunch of NSL era supporters that will be attracted to attend more games gain. How many, who knows, but they are out there. T he thing about them is that they are all at least 40+ now. Most will have kids, mortgages and perpetual sore backs now. They don't have the inclination and definitely don't have the energy to wear a flag as a cape and fight someone in the car park. Most of them will be happy to just be out of the house for a couple of hours, eat some junk food and shout at the ref with an old mate. Many will be keen to take their young ones to their childhood team and pass on the tradition. This is what we are ALL banking on mate..... Yeah there will be the odd one time warrior types that will try and get tehir 15 mins of teenage hoolinagins in but the consensus is that it is up to us "the old heads" to keep them in line... Screw you for the accurate description though.... that cut a little close to the bone. lol
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah An iconic Italian made gun to be precise. Does it misfire and throw itself down on the ground when another gun is pulled on it? Its a much treasured keepsake in Greece.. Thousands of them where dropped in the mountains of Albania by fleeing Italian fascists in 1941 and they were lovingly used for hunting in the mountains of Greece for decades :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah 
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah An iconic Italian made gun to be precise. Google tells me that it's of Italian origin and when used as a girl's first name it means "hat maker".
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah An iconic Italian made gun to be precise. Does it misfire and throw itself down on the ground when another gun is pulled on it?
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+x2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable.... Realistically, we know there will be some fan issues at some point. It's football, it's a given. Let's just hope nothing too serious happens in the first season. Although knowing football in this country, something will probably happen in round 1. Coz we have to shoot ourselves in the foot, hand and shoulder with every opportunity we get. As for crowd numbers, there is plenty of buzz around at the moment so it should be converted into solid numbers for the first season. Hard to say after that, but I reckon it will be considered a success at the end of the first season. We know that there is a bunch of NSL era supporters that will be attracted to attend more games gain. How many, who knows, but they are out there. The thing about them is that they are all at least 40+ now. Most will have kids, mortgages and perpetual sore backs now. They don't have the inclination and definitely don't have the energy to wear a flag as a cape and fight someone in the car park. Most of them will be happy to just be out of the house for a couple of hours, eat some junk food and shout at the ref with an old mate. Many will be keen to take their young ones to their childhood team and pass on the tradition.
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+x+xAll I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and 2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. All I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) Why cant the proposed solutions be the same as what they a re in the Aleague ???? Suspended sentences, no points deductions and pretend crowd shutouts?
Sure.And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. What difference does THAT make??? Did Glover ask the guy that hit him with a bucket where his parents were born? Or where the bucket was made for that matter?
Nope.
Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and - so you expect a semi pro competition to attract minimum crowds only 500 less than the Aleague???? Thats not realistic
Comp is fully professional not semi-pro and based on all the big talk from the previous NSL club zealots 2k is what they should be getting. (Listening to some of these 'it's all plastic and not real football' clowns in the past they should be getting 8 to 10k at a match. Hahaha)2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable....
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+x+xAll I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and 2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. All I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) Why cant the proposed solutions be the same as what theya re in the Aleague ???? Suspended sentences, no points deductions and pretend crowd shutouts?And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. What difference does THAT make??? Did Glover ask the guy that hit him with a bucket where his parents were born? Or where the bucket was made for that matter?Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and - so you expect a semi pro competition to attract minimum crowds only 500 less than the Aleague???? Thats not realistic2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable.... First sign of 'ethnic' themed trouble and we'll be back to where we started. The difference is IS THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. The media apparently seems to treat 'ethnic themed' violence different to run-of-the-mill violence. Like it or not, that's how it is. I'm not saying it's right I'm saying this is the danger of the new comp. First sign of an inter-ethnic 'riot' at one of these games and the broadcasters and sponsors will go running for cover and the media will be all over it. They love that shit. I'm bang up for the NST. I hope everyone can behave themselves.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah An iconic Italian made gun to be precise.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. I was generally speaking, not arguing. I also believe SU58 should and will be in the NSD. Besides the few hiccups, they suit the NSD model.
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+xAll I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and 2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. All I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) Why cant the proposed solutions be the same as what theya re in the Aleague ???? Suspended sentences, no points deductions and pretend crowd shutouts?And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. What difference does THAT make??? Did Glover ask the guy that hit him with a bucket where his parents were born? Or where the bucket was made for that matter?Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and - so you expect a semi pro competition to attract minimum crowds only 500 less than the Aleague???? Thats not realistic2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves. Thats the million dollar question and God I hope they can.... This thing will attract a lot of the old dickeads fromt eh past that thankfully have stayed away from NPL for 18 years.... Its up to the clubs and the members to self police and show these apostates what is and isnt acceptable....
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All I know is when the Serbs play the Macs or the Greeks play whoever they're aggrieved with someone and there's a giant shitshow pre or post match all the same 'solutions' will be proposed that got us the A-League in the first place. (No flags, no ethnic badging, suggested more mainstream appeal etc.) And yes there is trouble at A League matches but IN GENERAL it is not inter-ethnic. Whilst the enthusiasm is great, and I'm personally for the NST, there are 2 big questions; 1/ For all the talk will anyone go in decent numbers (2k a week minimum I hope) and 2/ Can the fans 'behave' themselves.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement BTW isnt "Beretta" an Italian brand? hahahahahahahaahah
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I reckon it will be very likely that SU58 gets shortlisted. They tick too many boxes to not at least get to that stage. However, when the FA are evaluating the final proposals (assuming SU58 submit one) there will be a big swastika shaped asterisk right next to their name due to recent events. There is a certain perceived level of risk associated with a segment of their fans which would be undesirable for the FA. Optics matter more than ever right now, whether people like it or not. The last thing they would want is for the league to be stained with poor fan behavior in the inaugural season. I reckon they would be quietly hoping there with be enough suitable proposals that they will be able to reject some without raising too many eyebrows.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P I'll take it. I was shooting for a 3 but you can't have everything. possibly as part of a road map that initially governs expansion and then, once the groundwork is laid, implementing movement
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha BBBBOOOOOOOOOOO thats 2/10 at best mate......:P
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down. My only point in all this (besides the stirring) is there is a difference between managing an existing club's issues in a league and inviting a club with clear recent issues into a NEW LEAGUE.The FA is famously risk averse and I imagine the other clubs would be too. As in with so many other unknowns for the NST, do they want this one too? When pro/rel starts between NST and NPL (after an18 year bedding in period) they can earn their spot aha
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United Who are you even arguing with? I think SU should be in the NSD. I also think that if they cause any shit when they are, then the response should be measured. Just like any other club. I also don't think it's likely that we'd see the same FFA Cup final scenes that we did each week. Dickheads are attracted to the big match atmosphere. More attention, more desire to tear it down.
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+x+x+x+xHopefully once the NST gets a tv deal we can have all this stuff broadcast live!!!! You guys are all about not having kids exposed to stuff, yeah? Oh let me guess...."wahhhhhh waaaaa waaaa an a-league fan did it once too". Being an ignorant cock head has NOTHING to do with where your parents are born mate. This really pisses me off Mono. After all the chats we have had on here to suggest I would believe this. A croat is the godfather of my child ffs. My first drink, unrelated to that guy, was Rakija. This is not a "i have a black friend " comment it's just the truth. I have had a problem with Melbourne Knights hosting fascist rock shows and Sydney Croatias hitler salutes through all those experiences. I have never once said "these Croatian dickheads" I have always said "these dickhead supporters" or this "dickhead club" No implication that you are racist whatsoever doesn't it have a segment of fans who are not happy with this??? Wouldn't have a clue and I think it's all a bit shallow and opportunistic myself. I was happy for Cavallo to have his moment but I can't help but feel it's been cynically "capitalised" on at the very least. Anyway....whatever. PS sure, but if you are going to say to me "Being an ignorant cock head has NOTHING to do with where your parents are born mate" there really is only one inference I can draw from that. But thanks for clarifying
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+x+x+xHopefully once the NST gets a tv deal we can have all this stuff broadcast live!!!! You guys are all about not having kids exposed to stuff, yeah? Oh let me guess...."wahhhhhh waaaaa waaaa an a-league fan did it once too". Being an ignorant cock head has NOTHING to do with where your parents are born mate. This really pisses me off Mono. After all the chats we have had on here to suggest I would believe this. A croat is the godfather of my child ffs. My first drink, unrelated to that guy, was Rakija. This is not a "i have a black friend " comment it's just the truth. I have had a problem with Melbourne Knights hosting fascist rock shows and Sydney Croatias hitler salutes through all those experiences. I have never once said "these Croatian dickheads" I have always said "these dickhead supporters" or this "dickhead club" Hey buddy.... BREATHE........ I am NOT saying that........... No implication that you are racist whatsoever ... were past that by now I hope? If I can borrow from bohemias post above "BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day."Every single football club (franchise, plastic, effnik, overseas, left leaning, right leaning, religious based etc etc) has an element of shitheads in their supporter group and the CLUBS ALL try and stamp it out to some degee or other. Maybe at some it is tolerated more than at other, Ill grant you that but this homophobic abuse IS NOT a Ustase fascist problem, just like it isnt a left leaning SJW nutjob problem, OR a Muslim problem or a fundamental Christian problem.... Its a shithead problem. Your very own club, who so proudly promote an openly gay player and pride events, doesn't it have a segment of fans who are not happy with this???
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+x+x+x+x+xAnd rightfully so. Why exclude a club that is probably the best candidate from NSW into the NSD cause of a few bad apples?! Cos a few bad apples could destroy the league. Look at the damage caused by bucket boy. Fascist United also have history with fascist gangs at their club, they don’t seem to be interested in purging the fascists from their stands. In fact, the directors themselves at probably fascist, or fascist sympathisers, according to reports. Lets’s not forget the fascist chant by thousands of Fascist 58 supporters at the FFA final. FFA are never gonna come out and publicly say that Fascist United are ruled out, but they are no chance. Why not kick Melbourne Victory out then? Assaulting players isn't bad? Played down? I could only imagine if those so called fascists from Sydney united ran onto the pitch and assaulted Macarthur in the final. The club wouldn't be around anymore. Double standards.
The difference with Sydney United is they have a history of fascism and condoning fascism at their club. The fascist supporter element of their fan base has been around for a long time and doesn’t appear Fascist 58 have done much to reel it in. Even if they tried they have failed, evidenced by the Nazi salutes and thousands of supporters chanting Ustasi fascist chants. The incidents involving MV on the other hand are isolated, pertinent to a few individuals and MV are desperate to eliminate grubs from their supporter base. If you had thousands of MV supporters chanting “hell Hitler” guarantee FFA would pull their license.
Maybe 10 years ago now, I unfortunately came perilously close to this supporter element. In my workplace I had a colleague who was simply off the chain. Don't know if it was ADHD/PTSD/Deadbeat Dad or all 7 of them, but it was hearts in mouths stuff sitting at the desk next to him. Every word out of his mouth was punctuated with "jew" and "serb" and "ohmygodi'llsmashyoucnt" and was basically the exact type of dickhead element in football that we know exists for one reason: to fuck things up. When Sydney United played Bonnyrigg, he and his mates were egging me on to join them. They literally had a car boot full of flares, pyro, bats, the works, and were going to drive up from Canberra to do what they feel like they have to do. They failed. They had to submit IDs for preregistration of tickets directly with the club admin, receive approval, then they could buy them. They didn't make it through screening. Is this a club that doesn't try to stamp this out? Nope. BTW, having failed in their bid, basically every single flare in their arsenal got ripped at an FFA cup match in Canberra shortly after. At a game featuring a club none of them support. Wankers are going to wank and flares are gonna flare end of the day. Too sit back and say clubs do nothing to stamp this out would be a lie. Take your BWE v SU example, that process would turn any fan off. Rockdale did the same with their fans. Now 14,000 croats supported Sydney United in the AUS cup but they can't get 2000 each week at home, so why should the club be punished for a small group of fans? You will get bad apples in any game / club. I wonder if Penrith Panthers will get a -40 suspended sentence for their racial abuse last night? Or will it only be in the news for a day and sweep it under the rug. Months on and everyone still talks about the fascists at Sydney United
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+x+x+x+xHopefully once the NST gets a tv deal we can have all this stuff broadcast live!!!! You guys are all about not having kids exposed to stuff, yeah? Oh let me guess...."wahhhhhh waaaaa waaaa an a-league fan did it once too". It's ok, we will let the A League show kids violence on TV. Let's not forget all the stabbings off field too. Ha ha right on time. I personally don't care about the kiddies. Everyone here has been so morally outraged on behalf of the children lately. I'd rather a kid wear a rainbow t-shirt (edit - on record that was dumb btw) than hear this shit at a football game. Saying this didn't happen because no charges have been brought is so pathetic. To claim it's you being persecuted because this player reported this is so fucking childish and lame. Grow up. Maybe accept you guys have an issue and try to be better. Oh yeah, you don't see any of this as a problem Mr big man gun do you? Don't care about kids, want them in rainbow tshirts? You are whats wrong with modern day society. Took you a few months to google my name did it?! Triggered! No pun intended lol. Ok vecchietto I knew what the name and symbol was you idiot that's why I asked you why you used it in the first place Fuck me dead
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