NST phase 2 - The RFP


NST phase 2 - The RFP

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Just have 26 teams playing each other once, with semi finals.
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The WA and NNSW applicants missed out while elsewhere Peninsula Power, Bentleigh, Playford City and Blacktown City were the others not to make the cut.
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wait for the naysayers - useless JJ as portrayed to some, lets see if it all upholds.
26 - SU58 haters are still in the mixer lol......I expect through to the next stage.
I'm surprised by some in the mixer still but all power to them.



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Squidley - 10 May 2023 2:47 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 10 May 2023 2:35 PM

I think the paragraph you have highlighted here is them covering their asses, especially if "big" clubs get upset they are not included in the NST

Perhaps....... I can imagine Avondale taking FA to court, spending 200k like last year and STILL not getting in. hahahahahahahahah
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....and then there were 26! 

I think 16 teams/30 game weeks would be siiiick! With state cups and national cup comps you could get up to 40 games a season which is such a terrific improvement. 

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LFC. - 10 May 2023 3:18 PM
wait for the naysayers - useless JJ as portrayed to some, lets see if it all upholds.
26 - SU58 haters are still in the mixer lol......I expect through to the next stage.
I'm surprised by some in the mixer still but all power to them.


It really IS going to be a revived NSL ... hahahahahah the haters are going to have a field day... hahahahahah 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 10 May 2023 2:35 PM

FORZA FA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it just me or does the below mean they are looking at a CL model as a way to decide the clubs in NST initially???

The NST is anticipated to begin in March 2024 and will involve between 10 and 16 teams with a home and away league structure and finals, featuring 24 to 36 games. However, the possibility remains for Football Australia to institute a phased ‘group based’ model that will utilise the National Premier Leagues to decide the make-up of this format of competition (the ‘Champions League’ model).

It's just you.

The CL model was if they didn't find enough clubs to make up an actual second division (i.e. a minimum of 10). The fact that 26 clubs have progressed to the second stage is a good sign that there will be enough clubs.

Disappointing that Pen Power is now out, and mystifying that Fraser Park is still in. I'm thinking they'll go with 12 teams in the first season:
APIA
Marconi
Sydney Olympic
Sutherland Sharks
Wollongong Wolves
South Melbourne
Melbourne Knights
Heidelberg United
Preston Lions
Brisbane United
Sunshine Coast
Adelaide City

They'll leave Canberra, Hobart and Gold Coast for A-League expansion. Then expand by one team a season for four seasons via NPL play-offs, so that by 2028 we'll have a 16-team NSD (and a 16-team A-League, incidentally).

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df1982 - 10 May 2023 3:24 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 10 May 2023 2:35 PM

It's just you.

The CL model was if they didn't find enough clubs to make up an actual second division (i.e. a minimum of 10). The fact that 26 clubs have progressed to the second stage is a good sign that there will be enough clubs.

Disappointing that Pen Power is now out, and mystifying that Fraser Park is still in. I'm thinking they'll go with 12 teams in the first season:
APIA
Marconi
Sydney Olympic
Sutherland Sharks
Wollongong Wolves
South Melbourne
Melbourne Knights
Heidelberg United
Preston Lions
Brisbane United
Sunshine Coast
Adelaide City

They'll leave Canberra, Hobart and Gold Coast for A-League expansion. Then expand by one team a season for four seasons via NPL play-offs, so that by 2028 we'll have a 16-team NSD (and a 16-team A-League, incidentally).

Like this a lot. 

Bringing in Preston and Heidelberg at once would generate huge buzz in Inner North melbourne.

And Away days to the Sunshine coast would be unreal. I think Sunshine Coast are almost a lock if they can meet the criteria.
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Valentine FC,
Bentleigh Greens,
Peninsula Power,
Playford City,
Cockburn City and
Blacktown City
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df1982 - 10 May 2023 3:24 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 10 May 2023 2:35 PM

It's just you.

The CL model was if they didn't find enough clubs to make up an actual second division (i.e. a minimum of 10). The fact that 26 clubs have progressed to the second stage is a good sign that there will be enough clubs.

Disappointing that Pen Power is now out, and mystifying that Fraser Park is still in. I'm thinking they'll go with 12 teams in the first season:
APIA
Marconi
Sydney Olympic
Sutherland Sharks
Wollongong Wolves
South Melbourne
Melbourne Knights
Heidelberg United
Preston Lions
Brisbane United
Sunshine Coast
Adelaide City

They'll leave Canberra, Hobart and Gold Coast for A-League expansion. Then expand by one team a season for four seasons via NPL play-offs, so that by 2028 we'll have a 16-team NSD (and a 16-team A-League, incidentally).

Fraser has their own land and a big investor involved.

Forca Fraser!
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theFOOTBALLlover - 10 May 2023 3:40 PM
df1982 - 10 May 2023 3:24 PM

Fraser has their own land and a big investor involved.

Forca Fraser!

What, the labour government grant of $5mill? 
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14 teams in the first NSD division (2nd division), 12 in the 2nd NSD (3rd division), pro-rel between both leagues could we dare to dream?

A major sponsor would make a major difference in pulling this off so it will be interesting to see where this goes next, but 16 to 26 pro teams will be a game changer for player development as opportunities will go through the roof.

I can understand no WA teams though, the cost is simply too much at this stage I wonder if the teams that missed out can apply again in the future?

Either way another step towards this league becoming a reality! 
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LFC. - 10 May 2023 3:18 PM
wait for the naysayers - useless JJ as portrayed to some, lets see if it all upholds.
26 - SU58 haters are still in the mixer lol......I expect through to the next stage.
I'm surprised by some in the mixer still but all power to them.


Oh whooopeeee! JJ has a process that was imminent many years back before his time Not useless but our saviour. Nothing to worry about now.
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this is great! Thought it would never come!
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df1982 - 10 May 2023 3:24 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 10 May 2023 2:35 PM

It's just you.

The CL model was if they didn't find enough clubs to make up an actual second division (i.e. a minimum of 10). The fact that 26 clubs have progressed to the second stage is a good sign that there will be enough clubs.

Disappointing that Pen Power is now out, and mystifying that Fraser Park is still in. I'm thinking they'll go with 12 teams in the first season:
APIA
Marconi
Sydney Olympic
Sutherland Sharks
Wollongong Wolves
South Melbourne
Melbourne Knights
Heidelberg United
Preston Lions
Brisbane United
Sunshine Coast
Adelaide City

They'll leave Canberra, Hobart and Gold Coast for A-League expansion. Then expand by one team a season for four seasons via NPL play-offs, so that by 2028 we'll have a 16-team NSD (and a 16-team A-League, incidentally).

Victoria / Melb will be a powder keg. We've always known it's a basket case however, so no surprise.
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Beretta - 10 May 2023 3:43 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 10 May 2023 3:40 PM

What, the labour government grant of $5mill? 

No, a proper investor that almost bought the Mariners.
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PGR is right we are ALL DOOMED!!!

I know we shouldn’t feed the troll but every post from him (?) has me in stitches.
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libelous - 10 May 2023 8:36 PM
PGR is right we are ALL DOOMED!!!

I know we shouldn’t feed the troll but every post from him (?) has me in stitches.

its always to the tune of - come in spinna lol......


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Imagine being one of the 6 though. Like, damn, wtf did we do so wrong...

26 is a bigger number than what I expected for the cull, but it's not the full EOI yet so probably about right. Really good number to start with and we won't be begging to fill a comp of 12.

Now if only the knob still putting forward the CL format could hop on a boat and fuck off, that'd be tops.
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theFOOTBALLlover - 10 May 2023 7:52 PM
Beretta - 10 May 2023 3:43 PM

No, a proper investor that almost bought the Mariners.

The government grant was for the stadium. Not sure if that's been given the green light. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the investor is the owner of Oporto?

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bohemia - 10 May 2023 10:53 PM
Imagine being one of the 6 though. Like, damn, wtf did we do so wrong...

26 is a bigger number than what I expected for the cull, but it's not the full EOI yet so probably about right. Really good number to start with and we won't be begging to fill a comp of 12.

Now if only the knob still putting forward the CL format could hop on a boat and fuck off, that'd be tops.

I wouldn't be surprised they go with a CL format for the first season. Involve as many teams as possible, see who flops and who doesn't
 
Cause I don't see how this league will start in march, less than a year away.
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Beretta - 11 May 2023 6:21 AM
theFOOTBALLlover - 10 May 2023 7:52 PM

The government grant was for the stadium. Not sure if that's been given the green light. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the investor is the owner of Oporto?

The original Oporto owners x 3 sold out in 07 to a private equity crowd that own Red Rooster so doubt its the PE crowd investing in Fraser.

Also if I recall right the grant was $2M not 5.
Stand is done but the the seating was not completed last I was there, its fine to sit on the large steps might I add and great viewing.


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bohemia - 10 May 2023 10:53 PM
Imagine being one of the 6 though. Like, damn, wtf did we do so wrong...


I'm wondering how many were cut by the FA, as opposed to pulling out

And the reasons for either
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numklpkgulftumch - 11 May 2023 9:42 AM
bohemia - 10 May 2023 10:53 PM

I'm wondering how many were cut by the FA, as opposed to pulling out

And the reasons for either

Also of that 26 I'm sure there will be at least a couple who won't submit a proposal. Some of those clubs would have to recognise where they are in the pecking order, so why stump up a $25k bond and spend time producing a proposal if the chances of success are that slim.
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df1982 - 10 May 2023 3:24 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 10 May 2023 2:35 PM

It's just you.

The CL model was if they didn't find enough clubs to make up an actual second division (i.e. a minimum of 10). The fact that 26 clubs have progressed to the second stage is a good sign that there will be enough clubs.

Disappointing that Pen Power is now out, and mystifying that Fraser Park is still in. I'm thinking they'll go with 12 teams in the first season:
APIA
Marconi
Sydney Olympic
Sutherland Sharks
Wollongong Wolves
South Melbourne
Melbourne Knights
Heidelberg United
Preston Lions
Brisbane United
Sunshine Coast
Adelaide City

They'll leave Canberra, Hobart and Gold Coast for A-League expansion. Then expand by one team a season for four seasons via NPL play-offs, so that by 2028 we'll have a 16-team NSD (and a 16-team A-League, incidentally).
Fair enough it must be "just me" as you point out.
Dont know what the NST applicant clubs from Canberra, Gold Coast and Hobart have to do with the Aleague though??? Where the hell would these clubs find 25 million for a franchise license?


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libelous - 10 May 2023 8:36 PM
PGR is right we are ALL DOOMED!!!

I know we shouldn’t feed the troll but every post from him (?) has me in stitches.

Hahahahah dont know if he hates Me or JJ more these days :) hahahahahah
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someguyjc - 11 May 2023 9:46 AM
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Also of that 26 I'm sure there will be at least a couple who won't submit a proposal. Some of those clubs would have to recognise where they are in the pecking order, so why stump up a $25k bond and spend time producing a proposal if the chances of success are that slim.

$650K is pretty decent seed money to kick off with if they all do though. I reckon most will submit mate.. Not that $25k is peanuts but there are ALOT of egos wanting this thing to go ahead. I guess we are one step closer to knowing either way. 26  "potentials" I reckon getting 14-16 clubs out of this lot is NOT that far of a stretch..... 
I would be absolutely chuffed if the call comes through in August that the intention is to create a NST 2nd division beginning in 2025 with the 10-12 who aren't included, with guidelines on why they didnt make it AND a call for EOI for another 4-6 clubs to "make the jump" 
Fairy-tails I know but how good would it be?
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bohemia - 10 May 2023 10:53 PM
Imagine being one of the 6 though. Like, damn, wtf did we do so wrong...

26 is a bigger number than what I expected for the cull, but it's not the full EOI yet so probably about right. Really good number to start with and we won't be begging to fill a comp of 12.

Now if only the knob still putting forward the CL format could hop on a boat and fuck off, that'd be tops.

Don't know about the others but was always scratching my head over Bentleigh's application......  Solid little club but if Oakleigh's and Thunder's boards voted against applying I was really surprised to see the Greens go ahead..... 
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