NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation


NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation

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LFC. - 20 Nov 2023 1:03 PM
hehe the reddit negative members luv this.....

Kudos to Prestons might I add, shows how well they have worked and presented themselves from their standing in PL2.
Damn I'm gonna be a busy lad 4 Sydney Clubs and 3 of my favs, my wife gonna divorce me lol......
Wonder what APIA now will do re grandstand - its now or never coming up finally.
Hope it gets to 12 through '24 but 10 it'll do its a start.

How good - finalmente - some real Club football to really get behind going Pro.


Im expecting a certain paisano to be coming down to Melbourne in 2025????
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8? 

Lol.


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So after all that carry on with Football Qld and Sunshine Coast what happens to them?


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Kamaryn - 20 Nov 2023 1:00 PM
18 or 22 matches is just not enough for serious development of players. Hate that this is where we are starting. Guess I gotta take a longer term view rather than expect a long season from the start...

I hear you but we got to start somewhere and obviously many are not viable yet....as it shows.
At least regards development this will be 3nights better training,18player squads for eg x 8 clubs thats 144 more players @ full time compared to part time.

Better than what we got currently, scope to grow.





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numklpkgulftumch - 7 Nov 2023 11:12 AM
GDeathe - 6 Nov 2023 11:46 PM

They didn't say that, they said other things for some reason
and there's nothing to stop them doing it in 2025 either way

Again
If they know the Format why not say it ?
If they know the Teams why not tell us ?

What's 2 weeks silence for


2 weeks extra to then announce an 8-team League.

Again, this doesn't add up 
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Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:06 PM
8? 

Lol.

8 more than any other Second Division national competition in Australia mate.

Underwhelming sure, but gotta be better than nothing right?
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Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:07 PM
So after all that carry on with Football Qld and Sunshine Coast what happens to them?

Damn good question.
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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:11 PM
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2 weeks extra to then announce an 8-team League.

Again, this doesn't add up 

Maybe waiting for the license cheques to clear????
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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Nov 2023 1:13 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:11 PM

Maybe waiting for the license cheques to clear????

jesting aside

Victorias 4th bid better than Brisbanes only one ?
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Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:06 PM
8? 

Lol.

Still 2-4 teams to be added.

didn't the A-League start with 8? lol




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Beretta - 20 Nov 2023 1:28 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:06 PM

Still 2-4 teams to be added.

didn't the A-League start with 8? lol




hahahaha good point.
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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:27 PM
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jesting aside

Victorias 4th bid better than Brisbanes only one ?

Aha,

"Significant risks to a successful entry"

Whatever the fuck that means

https://twitter.com/CameronAtfield/status/1726427985262326245/photo/1

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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:27 PM
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jesting aside

Victorias 4th bid better than Brisbanes only one ?

Depends on who VICs 4th bid is?????  All disappointment aside I just want to congratulate all 8 x clubs for having the courage and ambition to take this step... It could wipe a few of them (us) out financially but at least 8 brave souls will kick this thing a little further down the road........

Many (Reddit is exploding) see 7 effnik clubs and Wollongong... I see 8 Australian clubs forging a new exciting era for football in this country... good luck to all involved. 
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So they say next year in regards to the other 2/4 teams but when next year and why?  Did they not have the$?  8 teams only from Vic and nsw is a joke as it stands.  Needs to be 12.  Tasi and qld teams then maybe knights and someone else
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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:35 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:27 PM

Aha,

"Significant risks to a successful entry"

Whatever the fuck that means

https://twitter.com/CameronAtfield/status/1726427985262326245/photo/1

If we are going to get kicked out of the state comp for a year then we can't risk losing our sponsors/ticket sales which would cripple us going into the NST?

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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:35 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:27 PM

Aha,

"Significant risks to a successful entry"

Whatever the fuck that means

https://twitter.com/CameronAtfield/status/1726427985262326245/photo/1

Maybe FQ have managed to fuck up another Qld Bid.

With P/R , Brisbane United may have no where to go, and therefore nowhere to come back from
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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:35 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 1:27 PM

Aha,

"Significant risks to a successful entry"

Whatever the fuck that means

https://twitter.com/CameronAtfield/status/1726427985262326245/photo/1

I think it rhymes with "lalalucci"
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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Nov 2023 1:11 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:06 PM

8 more than any other Second Division national competition in Australia mate.

Underwhelming sure, but gotta be better than nothing right?

I want to say better than nothing.

Let's hope it lasts more than a year.


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Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:43 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Nov 2023 1:11 PM

I want to say better than nothing.

Let's hope it lasts more than a year.

3 years tops I reackon :)
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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Nov 2023 1:51 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:43 PM

3 years tops I reackon :)

Just disappointing after such a long time. And the delay by a year.


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Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:53 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Nov 2023 1:51 PM

Just disappointing after such a long time. And the delay by a year.

yer I hear ya.
You wonder what and why ?
Is it moneys up front the FA set too high ?
Or is that X Clubs are too ambitious ?
Whats going on in Qld ?
Why couldn't a SA Club make the grade ?
From a list of 32 down to 20 for eg now 8 definates with possible 2/4 more before end of 24 ?

The 2/4 are obviously on the edge of the FA cut and give them the time I suspect.



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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Nov 2023 1:51 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:43 PM

3 years tops I reackon :)

Why the pessimism?
This is just the start of the building of the pyramid. Whilst adding new teams to the NST,  progress can be made in realigning the seasons so that by the end of the decade pro/rel can be a real possibility.

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so I also heard that there will be a champions league model for a third division?

If so that's pretty big news as a champions league model could grow into a conference style 2nd division. To get the full benefits of promotion relegation you want an arms race all throughout the npl which means you want at least one promotion spot per npl. Then you can have 4 spots per conference league in danger of relegation and 2 spots up for promotion. It makes a realistic path to the top
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LFC. - 20 Nov 2023 2:15 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Nov 2023 1:53 PM

yer I hear ya.
You wonder what and why ?
Is it moneys up front the FA set too high ?
Or is that X Clubs are too ambitious ?
Whats going on in Qld ?
Why couldn't a SA Club make the grade ?
From a list of 32 down to 20 for eg now 8 definates with possible 2/4 more before end of 24 ?

The 2/4 are obviously on the edge of the FA cut and give them the time I suspect.


I'd say that's likely the case.
Previous administrations would have just postponed the whole thing via a press release on their website and announced nothing.
It would seem that the FA have taken a more positive approach and actually announced what they can. Based on their initial criteria, they could have very easily chosen to go for a cup format as they only managed to finalise 8 clubs. 
The others would be very close. We know Sunshine Coast would be in the running, as would be Melbourne Knights.
It would be a massive shame if they couldn't line up at least two more clubs from other states. A VIC/NSW only comp will get boring quickly.
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Beretta - 20 Nov 2023 12:21 PM
LOL at everyone who said Sydney United wouldn't get in. 

ABC straight in with an article

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-20/sydney-united-included-in-national-second-division-to-launch-in-/103126088

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The ABC understands that clubs that have a demonstrated commitment to youth development will be looked upon favourably,

with a potential "loan" option for young A-League players to the NSD part of the broader calendar and Australian Professional Leagues (APL) co-operation strategy.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-20/sydney-united-included-in-national-second-division-to-launch-in-/103126088

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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 2:31 PM
Beretta - 20 Nov 2023 12:21 PM

ABC straight in with an article

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-20/sydney-united-included-in-national-second-division-to-launch-in-/103126088

It reads like someone has written a fairly general article about the NST announcement, and then an editor has come in, changed the headline/photo and added a paragraph at the start and end to shift the contention elsewhere.
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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 2:34 PM
The ABC understands that clubs that have a demonstrated commitment to youth development will be looked upon favourably,

with a potential "loan" option for young A-League players to the NSD part of the broader calendar and Australian Professional Leagues (APL) co-operation strategy.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-20/sydney-united-included-in-national-second-division-to-launch-in-/103126088
Hope all the ANTIFA warriors on Reddit are placated with:

All founding clubs will sign the CPA, which means they must abide by strict requirements set by FA for on and off-field conduct leading up to the competition's start in 2025.

If a club violates that agreement between now and the opening game, there is the possibility it could be removed from the new league altogether before it begins.



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So from next year across the top two tiers of Australian football we have:
NSW = 10 teams
Victoria = 6 teams
New Zealand = 2 teams
The rest of Australia (4 states and 2 territories) manages 4 teams in total between them.

Surely it would be simpler just to combine NSW and Vic federations and say job done. 




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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Nov 2023 2:31 PM
Beretta - 20 Nov 2023 12:21 PM

ABC straight in with an article

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-20/sydney-united-included-in-national-second-division-to-launch-in-/103126088

took them long enough.

The looney left at ABC are one day free Palestine, the next, pro Israel.

i dont think anyone can take them seriously. 
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