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+xCan't not pick Japan as favs. The amount of players at high level is unmatched by any other Asian NT's but you got to run the course over couple of weeks. Japan has a strong national league too. There is considerable depth in the J League. Best playing squads don't always win tournaments though.
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Decentric 2
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+x+xGiven recent games since the WC, Ecuador X2, Argentina, Mexico, England, apart from Palestine, I think Aus has improved as a team unit from the team that played in the late phase of the Qatar WCQs. However, Japan is clearly the top national team in Asia. They finished two places above us in Qatar, placing 9th. South Korea also reached the last 16 of Qatar 2022. Saudi Arabia was clearly too good for us in the WCQs. They beat Argentina in Qatar, but faded after that game. I wonder if China will finally produce what they should be capable of doing in the Asian Cup? None of that matters. All you needed to say is how good Japan is POST FWC22. they are easily a top 10 team in the world at full strength, coaching and system is miles ahead of ours. Have heaps of players starring in Europe and in amazing form. Take Kubo for example, he'll tear us to pieces. Just watching the replays of the Socceroo games against England, Argentina, Mexico and Ecuador x2, despite some of best players in the world playing for them, nobody tore us to pieces in those friendlies in 2012. I expected it though.
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Decentric 2
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+x+x+xGiven recent games since the WC, Ecuador X2, Argentina, Mexico, England, apart from Palestine, I think Aus has improved as a team unit from the team that played in the late phase of the Qatar WCQs. However, Japan is clearly the top national team in Asia. They finished two places above us in Qatar, placing 9th. South Korea also reached the last 16 of Qatar 2022. Saudi Arabia was clearly too good for us in the WCQs. They beat Argentina in Qatar, but faded after that game. I wonder if China will finally produce what they should be capable of doing in the Asian Cup? None of that matters. All you needed to say is how good Japan is POST FWC22. they are easily a top 10 team in the world at full strength, coaching and system is miles ahead of ours. Have heaps of players starring in Europe and in amazing form. Take Kubo for example, he'll tear us to pieces. Japan are excellent but every time we clash they pay is a lot of respect and you might say too much. They certainly let a lot of chances go begging. We do too which is very frustrating. I thought Japan comprehensively outclassed us in the second WCQ in Aus in March 2022. Arnie was in COVID quarantine for the game, which supposedly adversely affected the team.
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bbouy
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+x+x+xGiven recent games since the WC, Ecuador X2, Argentina, Mexico, England, apart from Palestine, I think Aus has improved as a team unit from the team that played in the late phase of the Qatar WCQs. However, Japan is clearly the top national team in Asia. They finished two places above us in Qatar, placing 9th. South Korea also reached the last 16 of Qatar 2022. Saudi Arabia was clearly too good for us in the WCQs. They beat Argentina in Qatar, but faded after that game. I wonder if China will finally produce what they should be capable of doing in the Asian Cup? None of that matters. All you needed to say is how good Japan is POST FWC22. they are easily a top 10 team in the world at full strength, coaching and system is miles ahead of ours. Have heaps of players starring in Europe and in amazing form. Take Kubo for example, he'll tear us to pieces. Just watching the replays of the Socceroo games against England, Argentina, Mexico and Ecuador x2, despite some of best players in the world playing for them, nobody tore us to pieces in those friendlies in 2012. I expected it though. We definitely have a strong team pressing game which was really effective in these games. Introducing Bos also allowed us to have an outlet out from the back but in the end the chances and few and far between and definitely not sustainable. But Japan have been one of the best teams in 2023, arguably better than most on that list last year. And also play a much more team orientated style even with such talents on their team. I definitely think we have a chance and I believe a few of the players that we've brought in in the past 2 years have allowed us to have a chance. We are bridging closer and closer.
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Ainsley Harriott
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Champion: Hoping for Australia but i cant go past Japan. Australia result: Semis. Top scorer: Son. Top Australian scorer: Fornaroli (if he gets enough game time). Australian top performer: Goodwin. Australian best tournament newcomer: Bos. Australian you particularly want to do well: Silvera. Underwhelming team: Qatar. Surprise packet: Thailand.
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Muz
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+xChampion: Hoping for Australia but i cant go past Japan. Australia result: Semis. Top scorer: Son. Top Australian scorer: Fornaroli (if he gets enough game time). Australian top performer: Goodwin. Australian best tournament newcomer: Bos. Australian you particularly want to do well: Silvera. Underwhelming team: Qatar. Surprise packet: Thailand. The issue with Fornaroli scoring goals is that he gets great service in and around the box for MVFC. Australia does not have the technical ability in tight spaces to provided him with the same service in the same areas.
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Hillbilly55
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Champion: Hoping for Australia Australia result: Final/Winner Top scorer: Fornaroli Top Australian scorer: Fornaroli Australian top performer: Goodwin/Fornaroli Australian best tournament newcomer: Tilio Australian you particularly want to do well: Silvera. Underwhelming team: Qatar. Surprise packet: Vietnam
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Hillbilly55
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+x+xChampion: Hoping for Australia but i cant go past Japan. Australia result: Semis. Top scorer: Son. Top Australian scorer: Fornaroli (if he gets enough game time). Australian top performer: Goodwin. Australian best tournament newcomer: Bos. Australian you particularly want to do well: Silvera. Underwhelming team: Qatar. Surprise packet: Thailand. The issue with Fornaroli scoring goals is that he gets great service in and around the box for MVFC. Australia does not have the technical ability in tight spaces to provided him with the same service in the same areas. Agreed this is a problem for us, but with Goodwin, Silvera and Tilio in the squad I am hoping that we can produce enough scoring opportunities for Fornaroli to shine. We are fortunate to have India first up, and I would hope that Arnie should put our most attacking formation out to make a statement. This may not be Arnie's strong suit, but it would enable some "fringe" squaddies to play and let him manage the squad better than he has previously. Japan have Vietnam as the fourth pot team in their group and they are my dark horse for a run in the tournament.
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+x+xI thought Mitoma was injured? Honestly glad to see him selected but man what a squad Japan has. Unreal! And they left out Celtic's Kyogo, who scores belters like this against Rangers kyogo And maeda - is he in? An absolute work horse
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johnszasz
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johnszasz
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+x+x+xI thought Mitoma was injured? Honestly glad to see him selected but man what a squad Japan has. Unreal! And they left out Celtic's Kyogo, who scores belters like this against Rangers kyogo And maeda - is he in? An absolute work horse Yes he got in. Kamada is absent. I'm not entirely sure why. Injured? Bad form? Better options?
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mark_000au
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+x+x+x+xI thought Mitoma was injured? Honestly glad to see him selected but man what a squad Japan has. Unreal! And they left out Celtic's Kyogo, who scores belters like this against Rangers kyogo And maeda - is he in? An absolute work horse Yes he got in. Kamada is absent. I'm not entirely sure why. Injured? Bad form? Better options? Kamada is in bad form with Lazio
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johnszasz
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Our draw really looks like something from a tennis grand slam. Gradually harder. It's going to be very interesting how the knockout gets set up and the 3rd placing combinations.
Group of death? I think F because Saudi Arabia, Oman, Thailand and Kyrgyzstan just appears the tightest amongst the teams. Potentially group A Qatar China Lebanon Tajikistan too.
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Mr Cleansheets
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+x+xChampion: Hoping for Australia but i cant go past Japan. Australia result: Semis. Top scorer: Son. Top Australian scorer: Fornaroli (if he gets enough game time). Australian top performer: Goodwin. Australian best tournament newcomer: Bos. Australian you particularly want to do well: Silvera. Underwhelming team: Qatar. Surprise packet: Thailand. The issue with Fornaroli scoring goals is that he gets great service in and around the box for MVFC. Australia does not have the technical ability in tight spaces to provided him with the same service in the same areas. This is exactly the reason Maclaren doesn't do well for the NT against the better teams. We're not set up like City to provide chances for him. Didn't really want Fornaroli picked. Arzani and Irankunda instead of Fornaroli and Tilio would've given me much more confidence.
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bbouy
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+xChampion: Hoping for Australia but i cant go past Japan. Australia result: Semis. Top scorer: Son. Top Australian scorer: Fornaroli (if he gets enough game time). Australian top performer: Goodwin. Australian best tournament newcomer: Bos. Australian you particularly want to do well: Silvera. Underwhelming team: Qatar. Surprise packet: Thailand. Australia's results: Semi's Top scorer: Takefusa Kubo Top Australian scorer: Souttar Australian Player of the Tournament: Bos Best newcomer: Bos Australian you particularly want to do well: Fornaroli Underwhelming team: Saudi Arabia Surprise: Tajikistan
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Pasquali
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can hardly wait. Two to Three huge tournaments in a year
Asian cup, olyroos qualifiers and (hope and against hope) the olympics
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Squad numbers
1 Ryan 2 Deng 3 Atkinson 4 Rowles 6 Boyle 7 Silvera 8 Metcalfe 9 Fornaroli 10 Yengi 11 Tilio 12 Thomas 13 O'Neill 14 McGree 15 Duke 16 Behich 17 Baccus 18 Gauci 19 Souttar 20 Miller 21 Burgess 22 Irvine 23 Goodwin 24 Yazbek 25 Jones 26 Iredale
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Match DetailsBahrain v Subway Socceroos Saturday, 6 January Baniyas Stadium, Abu Dhabi Kick-off: 6.00pm local/1.00am AEDT (Sunday, 7 January) Broadcast: Network 10 and Paramount+
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Can we not use Group of Death for this tournament unless it refers to war? The groups all have one goodish, some (japan or korean, maybe Iran strong) - the rest are nothing much
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mark_000au
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+x+x+xChampion: Hoping for Australia but i cant go past Japan. Australia result: Semis. Top scorer: Son. Top Australian scorer: Fornaroli (if he gets enough game time). Australian top performer: Goodwin. Australian best tournament newcomer: Bos. Australian you particularly want to do well: Silvera. Underwhelming team: Qatar. Surprise packet: Thailand. The issue with Fornaroli scoring goals is that he gets great service in and around the box for MVFC. Australia does not have the technical ability in tight spaces to provided him with the same service in the same areas. This is exactly the reason Maclaren doesn't do well for the NT against the better teams. We're not set up like City to provide chances for him. Didn't really want Fornaroli picked. Arzani and Irankunda instead of Fornaroli and Tilio would've given me much more confidence. Obviously Jmac is better at tapping in and score but Fornaroli is clearly a better player as a striker he got a good first touch with ability to dribble just like typical South American strikers. However, if we playing the minnows like Bangladesh, Taipei type then Jmac is a perfect striker for us.
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I hope Arnie will focus on the set piece delivery from Goodwin. We got 3 best deadly headers with Duke, Irvine and Souttar. Should really work on cuz everyone just gonna focus on marking Souttar.
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11 for Bahrain friendly is in
Gauci Jones Souttar Burgess Bos Irvine O'Neill Silvera Metcalfe Goodwin Duke
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First 5min in and it's European handball by Australia so far. Just moving the ball (swifter than 2019 at least) in a semi circle as Bahrain sit deep. Silvera very central. Bös high up. Bahrain with one moment with lone man roaming through the centre where a diagonal pass would see him 30m free on goal.
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Positive is players are changing positions and roles at will. Bos high and inverted. Silvera central and wide. Lots of loose balls however. Irvine scrappy. Can't wait for Robertson.
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O'Neill is technically miles ahead of Irvine. Ball roles to Irvine where a swift touch would create space but he stumbles and it rolls under his foot.
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johnszasz
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We're way too casual where we run away from the ball allowing Bahrain to cut the line each time. Not enough firm passing. Irvine with a trademark press and interception but the run sees no pass or shot.
Finally a low hard shot for Australia by Metcalfe. We're definitely unsettling their build up play which creates so's opportunities.
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Good run by Bos, him and Goodwin clash a lot on the left side but it's worsened against a low block and defensive side. Especially without a creative midfielder.
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+xGood run by Bos, him and Goodwin clash a lot on the left side but it's worsened against a low block and defensive side. Especially without a creative midfielder. Wouldn't mind seeing Metcalfe wander over there to form a triangle. Irvine incredibly off pace so far not being in the right spot to allow for link ups. Bos rounding his man was good. Shame it wasn't squared to Silvera
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