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This week, Woolworths joins Kmart in not selling Australia Day paraphernalia, such as Australian flags etc.

In a poll at news.com.au 87% of people support Australia Day. And in a Yahoo Australia poll, it was 81% in support.

Hence Australia faces a similar situation to the U.S. where Leftist Corporations are forcing their Leftist agenda on the population.

This story on Woolworths is being reported by virtually all the main Australian news outlets ... but, as expected, THE AGE, being a far-left propaganda outlet, is silent on this story. It's the pattern of how THE AGE is always silent on stories that paint the Left in a bad light.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/backlash-over-woolworths-decision-to-dump-all-australia-day-merchandise/news-story/e25410334b1f23d0e74bb9c86cb6f2ee

https://au.news.yahoo.com/woolworths-follows-kmart-with-major-australia-day-decision-041153633.html

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We demand you stock non-selling Chinese made stuff lol

All for a day that is only a recent thing even the nationals don't even know what the day means 


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/nats-mp-makes-australia-day-blunder/7h93uthjj

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tsf - 16 Jan 2024 12:31 PM
We demand you stock non-selling Chinese made stuff lol

All for a day that is only a recent thing even the nationals don't even know what the day means 


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/nats-mp-makes-australia-day-blunder/7h93uthjj

wasnt it made a public holiday in 1988 (I vaguely remember some sort of Bicentennial thing?) and Im pretty sure it was still a thing before then???

Anyway, totally pissing myself about the uproar, totally with you, "how dare Woolworths not stock slow moving Chinese junk"!!!! ggggrrrrrrr.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 Jan 2024 4:53 PM
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wasnt it made a public holiday in 1988 (I vaguely remember some sort of Bicentennial thing?) and Im pretty sure it was still a thing before then???

Anyway, totally pissing myself about the uproar, totally with you, "how dare Woolworths not stock slow moving Chinese junk"!!!! ggggrrrrrrr.

It’s actually insane people are even getting worked up about this. 

The same people who think it’s ok for a bakery to not make a wedding cake for gays because ‘it’s a private business decision’

its embarrassing people get worked up over this Chinese plastic shit. The same people who’d steufflw to sing the anthem or list significant dates in Austria’s history 

I saw something funny, Denmark is now the only country with an Australian head of state, not even Australia has one. 😂

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Its actually insane people are gaslighting when they say this is just  a corporation not stocking Chinese junk, when they fully know that it is a corporate political statement (but it just so happens that the statement also aligns with their own politics, so its ok). 



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johnsmith - 11 Jan 2024 11:31 AM
This week, Woolworths joins Kmart in not selling Australia Day paraphernalia, such as Australian flags etc.

In a poll at news.com.au 87% of people support Australia Day. And in a Yahoo Australia poll, it was 81% in support.

Hence Australia faces a similar situation to the U.S. where Leftist Corporations are forcing their Leftist agenda on the population.

This story on Woolworths is being reported by virtually all the main Australian news outlets ... but, as expected, THE AGE, being a far-left propaganda outlet, is silent on this story. It's the pattern of how THE AGE is always silent on stories that paint the Left in a bad light.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/backlash-over-woolworths-decision-to-dump-all-australia-day-merchandise/news-story/e25410334b1f23d0e74bb9c86cb6f2ee

https://au.news.yahoo.com/woolworths-follows-kmart-with-major-australia-day-decision-041153633.html


The Age wasn't silent on it though- it ran several hit pieces on Dutton for daring to to call it out for what it is: the corporate activism

What's even more ridiculous is Welcome To Country, and everyone pretending to give a shit about indigenous affairs.

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Enzo Bearzot - 17 Jan 2024 10:41 AM
Its actually insane people are gaslighting when they say this is just  a corporation not stocking Chinese junk, when they fully know that it is a corporate political statement (but it just so happens that the statement also aligns with their own politics, so its ok). 



So what would you like to see happen here? 

All the shelves of Woolworths bursting with the Chinese-made Aussie flags to celebrate a day that only became a holiday in the 90s? People forced to go and buy them? (because even coles section is absolutely tiny, as it's clearly not selling anymore)

I don't like woolworths, but I don't see what the problem is, people can go to the $2 shop 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 Jan 2024 4:53 PM
tsf - 16 Jan 2024 12:31 PM

wasnt it made a public holiday in 1988 

I think it was 94

I don't even know - just like the patriots don't even know when James cook actually got here 
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tsf - 17 Jan 2024 11:12 AM
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So what would you like to see happen here? 

All the shelves of Woolworths bursting with the Chinese-made Aussie flags to celebrate a day that only became a holiday in the 90s? People forced to go and buy them? (because even coles section is absolutely tiny, as it's clearly not selling anymore)

I don't like woolworths, but I don't see what the problem is, people can go to the $2 shop 


Yeah, nah.


All the shelves do not need to be bursting with Chinese made Australian flags ( why the reference  Made In China, and when nearly everything we buy is anyway) but they didn't have to stock NOTHING.  And they would absolutely make money selling the stuff.  They choose not to because they want to make a divisive political statement, thinking that this satiates the activists and they will avoid controversy FOR stocking the stuff

What should they have done? Stock SOME.  That would be a an inclusive statement: want to celebrate with flags and hats and banners. We have it.  Don't want to buy it- then don't buy it.  No-ones forcing you.

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Enzo Bearzot - 17 Jan 2024 11:36 AM
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 Don't want to buy it- then don't buy it.  No-ones forcing you.

Couldn't you make this argument with them choosing to not sell it?

really it's their choice, or do you think decisions can be made on behalf of private business?



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tsf - 17 Jan 2024 1:16 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 17 Jan 2024 11:36 AM

Couldn't you make this argument with them choosing to not sell it?

really it's their choice, or do you think decisions can be made on behalf of private business?




This decision is not one they would have made solely for sales reasons so lets not pretend otherwise by feigning outrage when the business is called out for acting politically  No-one should complain if there are calls to boycott that business either.

A smart business would not alienate a portion of their customers because of a contentious political issue.  It would have been enough to say: "We cater for all our customers, many celebrate Australia Day on this day, some don't, but everyone is welcome to shop with us."

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This decision is not one they would have made solely for sales reasons so lets not pretend otherwise by feigning outrage when the business is called out for acting politically  No-one should complain if there are calls to boycott that business either.

A smart business would not alienate a portion of their customers because of a contentious political issue.  It would have been enough to say: "We cater for all our customers, many celebrate Australia Day on this day, some don't, but everyone is welcome to shop with us."

"A smart business would not alienate a portion of their customers because of a contentious political issue" isn't this EXACTLY the same argument for not selling it? 

They would not make the decision if it would hurt their business. 

Maybe selling it was alienating more people? 
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tsf - 17 Jan 2024 2:47 PM
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"A smart business would not alienate a portion of their customers because of a contentious political issue" isn't this EXACTLY the same argument for not selling it? 

They would not make the decision if it would hurt their business. 

Maybe selling it was alienating more people? 


No its not exactly the same thing because they've been selling the stuff for decades.

There's zero evidence that selling alienated anyone in the past.  NONE.

Now, they're not selling anything-their choice, of course.

What they then can't do is complain when they're called out for acting politically, (or worse gaslighting everybody that that's not what they're doing by saying the stuff doesn't sell) and then they can't complain if there is a call to boycott their business for that. 

There are plenty of examples where businesses made political decisions that hurt their sales eg Gillette, Disney, Budweiser.

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So if they’ve been selling it for a lot leas longer than not selling it, so service resumed as normal 

Also there is plenty of evidence it alienates a section of the community 

howver I reckon that it’s a bit both ways. The day has turned into a massive ball ache for them for very little reward, ifany. Who is buying that shit? 

There are plenty of areas where businesses made decisions where it helped. This will not hurt them at all. It’s a non issue. 

This is probably one of the realest snowflake issues in the snowflake era

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This is a beat up.

Woolworths made no announcement. Coles had been selling Australia Day merchandise since December. Woolworths had not. It looks like Advance Australia (Jacinta Price, Warren Mundine et al) prompted Channel 7 to ask the question in January. It may be that Advance Australia latched on to the Channel 7 story. There had been no nedia announcement, no social media, no in store signage.  i.e Woolworths had no interest in making a political statement.
 
Woolworths had made no statement, were not 'virtue signaling', were not woke. They made a business decision. In response to Channel 7 questions the Woolworths Group stated that they would not be stocking any Australia Day specific themed merchandise. They also noted that they continue to sell Australian flags at Big W stores as they do all year round.     

They also confirmed that MyDeal, part of the Woolworths Group, will continue to supply Australia Day themed merchandise online through third part sellers.

TBH the only people that would be buying this would likely be people that had lost last year's merchandise. How many times would you use it - Australia Day, Anzac Day, at the cricket. After a while the market is exhausted and sales dwindle. Woolworths recognised this and reacted accordingly. 
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patjennings - 17 Jan 2024 5:02 PM
This is a beat up.

Woolworths made no announcement. Coles had been selling Australia Day merchandise since December. Woolworths had not. It looks like Advance Australia (Jacinta Price, Warren Mundine et al) prompted Channel 7 to ask the question in January. It may be that Advance Australia latched on to the Channel 7 story. There had been no nedia announcement, no social media, no in store signage.  i.e Woolworths had no interest in making a political statement.

 
Woolworths had made no statement, were not 'virtue signaling', were not woke. They made a business decision. In response to Channel 7 questions the Woolworths Group stated that they would not be stocking any Australia Day specific themed merchandise. They also noted that they continue to sell Australian flags at Big W stores as they do all year round.     

They also confirmed that MyDeal, part of the Woolworths Group, will continue to supply Australia Day themed merchandise online through third part sellers.

TBH the only people that would be buying this would likely be people that had lost last year's merchandise. How many times would you use it - Australia Day, Anzac Day, at the cricket. After a while the market is exhausted and sales dwindle. Woolworths recognised this and reacted accordingly. 

 This is a national public holiday.  As such Woolworths management would absolutely have discussed the sale of Australia Day celebratory items and 100% would have taken into account the political optics of going one way or the other.  They chose the other: as part of a duopoly they decided they would not sell things people may have wanted to buy on the basis of their politics.  That is no accident (and didn't just begin this week https://mumbrella.com.au/why-brands-should-think-twice-about-celebrating-australia-day-495561)

Theirs and Coles share price tanked this week.  Fuck 'em.  Even if the two events aren't linked the bad publicity has been enough to give their management the shits and think twice about it next year.  Good enough.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/go-woke-go-broke-truth-about-claim-woolworths-shares-have-tanked-after-australia-day-decision/news-story/4d6615c4ea550389c8c643f06f2e05fd


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tsf - 17 Jan 2024 4:12 PM
So if they’ve been selling it for a lot leas longer than not selling it, so service resumed as normal 

Also there is plenty of evidence it alienates a section of the community 

howver I reckon that it’s a bit both ways. The day has turned into a massive ball ache for them for very little reward, ifany. Who is buying that shit? 

There are plenty of areas where businesses made decisions where it helped. This will not hurt them at all. It’s a non issue. 

This is probably one of the realest snowflake issues in the snowflake era


Lots of things can alienate a section of the community.  Corporations need to stick to their own knitting and stay out of politics.

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Enzo Bearzot - 17 Jan 2024 8:39 PM
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Lots of things can alienate a section of the community.  Corporations need to stick to their own knitting and stay out of politics.

But if Woolworths made no announcement and just simply decided to not sell this stuff this year how is that them "playing with politics"? Do you think these guys really give a shit one way or another? If Nazi paraphernalia was a guaranteed money maker in their retail space you would see Swastika plushies replace the isles of hot cross buns that have already started invading shelf space across the country.... Its a beat up Enzo...  Money is the only god, they dont care about left or right.... its the news  parasites that want the outrage clickbait stuff... Woolies and Coles just want to sell us as much as they can for as much as they can. 
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I see Cricket Australia getting heat now 

What I don't get from the 'KEEP PoLIticS oUt of SPPPORT!!! brigade i...isn't that exactly wht athey are doing?

So if someone just toes the line waving the flag etc at the behest of governments, arn't they in fact bringing politics into sport? 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 18 Jan 2024 1:47 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 17 Jan 2024 8:39 PM

But if Woolworths made no announcement and just simply decided to not sell this stuff this year how is that them "playing with politics"? Do you think these guys really give a shit one way or another? If Nazi paraphernalia was a guaranteed money maker in their retail space you would see Swastika plushies replace the isles of hot cross buns that have already started invading shelf space across the country.... Its a beat up Enzo...  Money is the only god, they dont care about left or right.... its the news  parasites that want the outrage clickbait stuff... Woolies and Coles just want to sell us as much as they can for as much as they can. 

Yes but its not that simple.

Corporations these days employ people to tell them what to do to appear as good social citizens, because they know they're not.  So they pick a social or politicsal side that they're told is the one that will make them appear that way to:

1. distract everyone from the criticism and impending enquiry of profiteering ie competition laws in the supermarket industry

2. improve sales because more people support that cause than not.( or so they believe)

Woolworths miscalculated.  Badly.



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tsf - 24 Jan 2024 11:27 AM
I see Cricket Australia getting heat now 

What I don't get from the 'KEEP PoLIticS oUt of SPPPORT!!! brigade i...isn't that exactly wht athey are doing?

So if someone just toes the line waving the flag etc at the behest of governments, arn't they in fact bringing politics into sport? 


So ...you think we should have international sporting matches not involving national teams?

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So ...you think we should have international sporting matches not involving national teams?

That's not my point and you know it - but all these people having a go at Cummins if he doesn't support Australia Day. 
However, if Cummins supports Australia and runs around waving flags on this day and wears a t-shirt saying 'happy australia day' that's ok? 
Surely that is the definition of bringing politics into sport, even more so if saying you don't support it is 'politics'?
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tsf - 24 Jan 2024 8:41 PM
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That's not my point and you know it - but all these people having a go at Cummins if he doesn't support Australia Day. 
However, if Cummins supports Australia and runs around waving flags on this day and wears a t-shirt saying 'happy australia day' that's ok? 
Surely that is the definition of bringing politics into sport, even more so if saying you don't support it is 'politics'?


Who said that?

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Its Cummins whose coming out in the media with his political position on Australia Day and the public and media only take notice because he's the captain of the Australian cricket team.  Otherwise no-one would give a shit because he has no other qualities that make him any more qualified to an opinion on it than anybidy else.

Even so, he's entitled to his opinions.  In private.

No-one is forcing him to wave flags on Australia Day.  Indeed he's free to lock himself up at home on Australia day in mourning and not partake in any of the celebrations and no-one would give a shit. 

He's also welcome to vote to change the date if that was a thing and no-one would give a shit.

But when he starts using his captaincy and membership of the national cricket team to push his politics, he's then become political and that when people give a shit, and he's actions are then fair game.

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There is outrage everywhere about CA dumping australia day marketing - and people are saying keep politics out of sport, but if that is the case, then surely using Australia Day in the marketing or around an event is bringing politics into sport. Cannot have it both ways,

He's not really pushing his politics though when he is asked about it, if anyone is pushing politics it's right wing media demanding Australia day 
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tsf - 24 Jan 2024 10:27 PM
There is outrage everywhere about CA dumping australia day marketing - and people are saying keep politics out of sport, but if that is the case, then surely using Australia Day in the marketing or around an event is bringing politics into sport. Cannot have it both ways,

He's not really pushing his politics though when he is asked about it, if anyone is pushing politics it's right wing media demanding Australia day 

You keep doing this every. single. time.  You flip reality upside down and then claim its your opponents that are doing the thing your side is. You either don't understand that or are willfully ignorant.

It is Australian Law that Australia Day is a national holiday on the 26th January.  It is the national default position.  The status quo. Celebrating a declared national holiday is not political.  Its taking part in the default position.  The right wing don't need to demand anything-it already is.

Now, if you want the date changed, or you don't the day off, or you don;t want to celebrate it because you don't agree with what it symbolizes, fine, but that makes you the political activist, not the ones who are simply doing the normal thing.

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The Woolworths CEO say now complaining his staff are being harrassed,  He's right, the staff shouldn't be harrassed.  But ultimately the buck stops  with him, he's the CEO.  He greenlghted the decision for his company to wade into a contentious political issue, instead of selling groceries.  All  on you mate.

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Enzo Bearzot - 25 Jan 2024 9:31 AM
The Woolworths CEO say now complaining his staff are being harrassed,  He's right, the staff shouldn't be harrassed.  But ultimately the buck stops  with him, he's the CEO.  He greenlghted the decision for his company to wade into a contentious political issue, instead of selling groceries.  All  on you mate.

Weird that a 'free market capitalist' bloke like you is upset at what a privately owned company has decided to do but here we are.


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Enzo Bearzot - 25 Jan 2024 9:15 AM
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It is Australian Law that Australia Day is a national holiday on the 26th January.  It is the national default position.  The status quo. Celebrating a declared national holiday is not political.  Its taking part in the default position.  


So if it's not political, why is it political when he says he doesnt want to celebrate it? 

So what you're saying is 'go against the status quo and you are politica'l?
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Interesting too that you consider a day that essentially marks and celebrates the actions of politicians/governments as not being political (and a foreign one too)
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