indonesia is coached by Shin Tae yon who has 4 years domestic coaching experience in south korea and has coached the south korea national team for two stints totaling three years. He also coaches the indonesia team since 2020

Jordan is coached by Abdullah Zema who has 8 years domestic football experience and 1 year coaching the national team as a caretaker

Japan's Go Oiwa coached 4 years in the j league

South korea's Hwang Son Hong has 16 years domestic experience

Tony Vidmar's only experience before this was the u17 asian cup. He has no managerial experience.

Arnold of course has great domestic experience and finished 3rd with a significantly weaker squad
Morgan had club football coaching experience and finished 4th with a slightly weaker squad (much better than 2020 but weaker than this one)

As evidenced by the waff, the minitournament in qatar and the maurice novello vidmar does seem to know a lot how to get a team to tick. But meaningless games are a different kettle of fish and he isn't battle hardened which only happened from domestic coaching experience. 

Yeah, but you forgot the main criteria for being a junior national team coach in Australia. Being one of the boys!

Honestly who couldn't see this coming, Tony Vidmar is a shit coach, who prioritizes nepotism over everything else. You can see this from the arrogance of him in not picking Irankunda. Who goes to a tournament not picking your best player, he should be picked for the Socceroo's let alone some crappy youth tournament.

Vidmar's been the same since back in around 2010 where somehow most of the AIS was made up out of a poor SA state side who went nowhere near winning the national champs (the program was shortly disbanded) because as I said above Vidmar is the king of nepotism. 

Vidmar is an absolute useless waste of space, nothing to do with experience just a shit coach. 

couldnt agree more. the bloke has no managerial experience. why is he in charge of out olympic team???

I haven't seen a lineup that I've liked from Vidmar's tenure. Poor team camp selections too, but the lineup and substitutions are the biggest issues because the ones that don't perform are usually the ones we negatively react to being selected in the lineup an hour before the game starts. He is a reactionary coach not a pro-active one.

You bring up WAFF and Maurice Revello, let's not forget he lost poorly to Qatar and Panama at the Maurice Revello. Yes, we beat better competition in France and Mexico but evidence shows when the competition is weaker he struggles to provide. Also at WAFF, i thought we were poor against Egypt. Also got smacked by Switzerland U21's. Played poor against Tajikistan in qualifying with more poor selections, had very similar problems with that Tajikistan game that we are having now and coincidentally both are important games. Against Qatar and Saudi Arabia we won and were clinical with our chances but some of the negatives I saw were all brought on by poor team selections which were hurting us consistently. 

Vidmar, I realise it's hard to produce when you don't have the talent that you expected to have, but come on, you need to get ahold of the players you do have and provide an effective winning plan because let's face it, this squad is still good enough to win the whole thing and to not get out of the group or dare I say come last in the group is a complete failure. 

The only times we qualified through Asia at u23 level has been in 2008 and 2020 when Arnie was coaching the team, I have my opinions on he's coaching style but I cant fault he's ability to get the best out of Australian players which is very impressive and unprecedented to any other coach we had.

This is why you need proven coaches coaching these teams, dont care where they are from just someone who can coach otherwise nothing will change in the future.

Vidmar's has got little senior coaching experience, compare to the other teams coaches then I should not be surprised because Asian football doesnt mess about.

Couldn't agree more. Vidmar has to go after this debacle, and Football Aust need to pull their heads and find a suitable replacement. 
You can't have Arnie on one hand preaching about how important this age group is and making the Olympics etc, and on the other hand your weakest link is the coach himself. 

id rather rather someone like ernie merrick for goodness sake. at least the bloke knows what hes doing. although he maybe technically retired now.

Maybe the question should be who gives a flying fuck about the Olympics ? yeah i get it Aussies are into (for some reason i dunno it's so shit) but man any other footballing country is into whatever the league is not this fake made up crap and would not give a damn who made it or not. 

If we won even a bronze medal it would mean as much for football in this country as a quarter final appearance at the world cup. Our rivals care enough to buy a coach with senior experience (aka not as just an assistant)

It matters for a govt funding perspective, given the sport gets little funding compared to other sports doing well in international events like the Olympics will help.

Apparently govt funding dried up due to lack of appearances and medal chances, but the girls will help as they have a good chance to medal in Paris. 

Thats interesting

Also the ais was credited for our golden gen and the decline in ais funding was blamed for our decline in youth development (which seems to be recovering a bit)

I noticed our best olympics squad was 2000 when we hosted the games (kewell didnt play for some reason but most of the other big names are there). Could the funding boost of the ais due to sydney 2000 be behind the development of the golden gen? Is there any way to leverage the 2032 olympics for football? I guess we have probably blown our chance for 2024

Comparing Australia to any other footballing country is wild and basically invalidates any argument. We are in Australia, thousands of km away from the footballing mecca and the Olympics is one of the only chances we get to showcase our talent internationally to the right kinds of people, people in Europe are rarely watching Australian's play. The importance of the Olympics is due to the funding and exposure it receives. As Arnie has stated many times before the amount of players over the years who have transitioned overseas or into the senior team after the Olympics, a notable difference to when we don't qualify for the Olympics. That's what this is about, to benefit our footballing country. The actual merit of the Olympics is debatable but definitely has the second most talent playing after the World Cup that we can qualify for, more than the Asian Cup. Especially with the squad we have this was a very important tournament to perform at. 

Also it promotes the game in a way only the world cup beats. A medal or even a knockout appearance at the olympics is a huge shot in the arm for the game

regardless, we should not be losing to indonesia.