NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation


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hate the name. how about something original or more traditional rather than blatantly copying the championship in england.

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simione001 - 23 Apr 2024 3:42 PM
hate the name. how about something original or more traditional rather than blatantly copying the championship in england.

What is your suggestion.
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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 3:14 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 3:02 PM


I reckon the FA have got this name right.
Going for A2 League or B-League or something along those lines would have been a huge mistake.
Most football people already associate the word 'championship' with 2nd division because of England.
Using the already existing 3-ribbon logo keeps things consistent but also saves a heck of a lot of money by avoiding a full blown branding exercise.
NPL clubs won't even need to change their kit's too much. Literally just replace the words 'national premier leagues' with 'The Australian Championship'.

It looks like FA don’t want anything connecting the league to the A League.
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libelous - 23 Apr 2024 3:44 PM
simione001 - 23 Apr 2024 3:42 PM

What is your suggestion.

A2

or A League 2.

The EPL should never have changed from the old Div 1, 2, 3, 4. When someone says 'Football League one' I have to scroll back through my memory to go is that the 3rd tier or 2nd? No wait it's the third or is it?


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simione001 - 23 Apr 2024 3:42 PM
hate the name. how about something original or more traditional rather than blatantly copying the championship in england.

Curious, what would be an example of a more traditional name?

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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 3:02 PM


Just realised that if you look at the indexing constituents on the trademark page, it lists the words 'divided' and 'incomplete'.
Although this is a bit of an unfortunate coincidence as these are in reference to the to the symbol form itself, I still find it amusing as there are no two better words to sum up football in Australia than 'divided' and 'incomplete'.
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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 3:59 PM
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Just realised that if you look at the indexing constituents on the trademark page, it lists the words 'divided' and 'incomplete'.
Although this is a bit of an unfortunate coincidence as these are in reference to the to the symbol form itself, I still find it amusing as there are no two better words to sum up football in Australia than 'divided' and 'incomplete'.

‘Twas ever thus.
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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 2:57 PM
Football Australia have also registered the domain name www.australianchampionship.com.au

It sounds more like tennis Australia than football australia.
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well name aside it sounds like knights won't get their wish and the nst is going ahead next year

looking forward to it. There are so many npl clubs that any team that gets a good enough scout could catch up to a league standard quickly even if the wages are lower
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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 3:52 PM
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Curious, what would be an example of a more traditional name?

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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 3:59 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 3:02 PM

Just realised that if you look at the indexing constituents on the trademark page, it lists the words 'divided' and 'incomplete'.
Although this is a bit of an unfortunate coincidence as these are in reference to the to the symbol form itself, I still find it amusing as there are no two better words to sum up football in Australia than 'divided' and 'incomplete'.

lol ... 
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Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 3:51 PM
libelous - 23 Apr 2024 3:44 PM

A2

or A League 2.

The EPL should never have changed from the old Div 1, 2, 3, 4. When someone says 'Football League one' I have to scroll back through my memory to go is that the 3rd tier or 2nd? No wait it's the third or is it?

I agree Muz, I hate the second tier of NPL in VIC being VPL1 this year, just stupidly confusing. 

Anyway Im not a fan of the Championship name but clearly FA are running like the wind as far from the APL train wreck as possible.. No reference to second tier or Aleague B or anything like that shows a very clear concise intent in my opinion...

WOOOO farkin HOOOOOOOO 
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grazorblade - 23 Apr 2024 5:03 PM
well name aside it sounds like knights won't get their wish and the nst is going ahead next year

looking forward to it. There are so many npl clubs that any team that gets a good enough scout could catch up to a league standard quickly even if the wages are lower

Have a feeling it will turn in to a youth league, with players say 27 and above earning much more from regular jobs and playing npl etc rather than committing to this league.

Not necessarily a bad thing.   
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 5:25 PM
Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 3:51 PM

I agree Muz, I hate the second tier of NPL in VIC being VPL1 this year, just stupidly confusing. 

Anyway Im not a fan of the Championship name but clearly FA are running like the wind as far from the APL train wreck as possible.. No reference to second tier or Aleague B or anything like that shows a very clear concise intent in my opinion...

WOOOO farkin HOOOOOOOO 

If the A-League goes Bust, arms length is very handy

All bases covered, and lets be honest, it doesn't really matter
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Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 3:51 PM
libelous - 23 Apr 2024 3:44 PM

A2

or A League 2.

The EPL should never have changed from the old Div 1, 2, 3, 4. When someone says 'Football League one' I have to scroll back through my memory to go is that the 3rd tier or 2nd? No wait it's the third or is it?

Muz I hear you re the ol Dart changing due to $$$'s I also get lost figuring out which level is what when you go right down to the last level.

Mind you as for us thank christ no A2 AL2 - its a poison chalice and doesn't suit NPL/NST/NSD whatsoever, I don't wish for this 2nd league having a bar of anything associated with you know what.
Its a fresh new league/comp that means more from grass roots people up.
We will stomach following the ol Dart - Australian Championship, - pity the FA sometime ago didn't put out a survey to supporters, in hindsight that may have been interesting.
The Premiership off the top of my head sound ok but no matter.


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LFC. - 23 Apr 2024 5:54 PM
Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 3:51 PM

Muz I hear you re the ol Dart changing due to $$$'s I also get lost figuring out which level is what when you go right down to the last level.

Mind you as for us thank christ no A2 AL2 - its a poison chalice and doesn't suit NPL/NST/NSD whatsoever, I don't wish for this 2nd league having a bar of anything associated with you know what.
Its a fresh new league/comp that means more from grass roots people up.
We will stomach following the ol Dart - Australian Championship, - pity the FA sometime ago didn't put out a survey to supporters, in hindsight that may have been interesting.
The Premiership off the top of my head sound ok but no matter.

The ALM is part of the Australian Premier Leagues so it would probably be an issue.

I can see in the future the APLs having continuing problems and the FA taking them back over. That is when pro/rel will come in - and it is likely to be well before the 2034 date - much earlier.  
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patjennings - 23 Apr 2024 6:03 PM
LFC. - 23 Apr 2024 5:54 PM

The ALM is part of the Australian Premier Leagues so it would probably be an issue.

I can see in the future the APLs having continuing problems and the FA taking them back over. That is when pro/rel will come in - and it is likely to be well before the 2034 date - much earlier.  

Certainly hope so.
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libelous - 23 Apr 2024 6:24 PM
patjennings - 23 Apr 2024 6:03 PM

Certainly hope so.

Yep agree and pj 
APL would have a whinge re Premiership but they wouldn’t have a Trademark on the word that’s for sure - they would make noise about it but have no leg to stand on to contest legally I’d say.



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LFC. - 23 Apr 2024 8:32 PM
libelous - 23 Apr 2024 6:24 PM

Yep agree and pj 
APL would have a whinge re Premiership but they wouldn’t have a Trademark on the word that’s for sure - they would make noise about it but have no leg to stand on to contest legally I’d say.


I don’t think the name Premiership would suit what FA are trying to achieve. The Championship would be the top of the pyramid with all clubs from the top down trying to become’ champions’ rather than ‘premiers’
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libelous - 23 Apr 2024 8:52 PM
LFC. - 23 Apr 2024 8:32 PM

I don’t think the name Premiership would suit what FA are trying to achieve. The Championship would be the top of the pyramid with all clubs from the top down trying to become’ champions’ rather than ‘premiers’

Sure that makes sense 

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patjennings - 23 Apr 2024 6:03 PM
LFC. - 23 Apr 2024 5:54 PM

The ALM is part of the Australian Premier Leagues so it would probably be an issue.

I can see in the future the APLs having continuing problems and the FA taking them back over. That is when pro/rel will come in - and it is likely to be well before the 2034 date - much earlier.  

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libelous - 23 Apr 2024 8:52 PM
LFC. - 23 Apr 2024 8:32 PM

I don’t think the name Premiership would suit what FA are trying to achieve. The Championship would be the top of the pyramid with all clubs from the top down trying to become’ champions’ rather than ‘premiers’

Love it... the marketing begins before a single ball is kicked :)

On another note, i can see it being referred to as "the championship" pretty quickly I think "The Australian Championship" is too much of a mouthful.

God help us all if they insist on incorporating the league sponsors name in the marketing though..... 
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numklpkgulftumch - 23 Apr 2024 5:51 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 5:25 PM

If the A-League goes Bust, arms length is very handy

All bases covered, and lets be honest, it doesn't really matter

Agreed, just that (at least in my mind) referring to this new comp as a second tier or league or A2 league or anything similar would have been a clear indication that pro/rel to the ISUZU truck and passenger vehicles Aleagues PTY LTD was the FA's long term goal ... Now it seems that this has been given up on. 
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APL lapdog Rugari deciding to whinge about it is a good sign

https://x.com/VinceRugari/status/1782901502564327547

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numklpkgulftumch - 24 Apr 2024 10:11 AM
APL lapdog Rugari deciding to whinge about it is a good sign

https://x.com/VinceRugari/status/1782901502564327547

This brings my such joy ........ I can see the tears streaming down his ugly bald head..... 

No "second" about it anymore Vinnie Va fanculo
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 3:02 PM


In contrasting colours on the sleeve would look mint :)

I like it. Although I prefer the B-league better :D
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i would have no problem with adelaide united having a B team in this competition. i dont see any other team or franchise working from adelaide.

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simione001 - 24 Apr 2024 10:45 AM
i would have no problem with adelaide united having a B team in this competition. i dont see any other team or franchise working from adelaide.

Anyone know if Adelaide city are in with a chance of joining?
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