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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased In who's estimation, yours? You and others still don't get it. 80% of the defenders have no idea how and where to position themselves and that's why young players are scoring goals. Move forward and those same players can't get game times o/s because they can't score against good defenders. I like everyone on here have high hopes for Irankunda and I really hope he can buck the trend of the last decade.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased That's nice to hear. So does that translates to money or more viewers?
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Razor Ramon
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here.Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL Yes the Lowys and FFA were poorly running the sport here... most of the funding and focus was on 10 Australian clubs and the other thousand plus clubs were being neglected grossly... Now the FA can do what it is supposed to do, look after the actual sport for a change. From 2013-17 the whole sport package was 40 million a year. So 10 A-league sides means 4 million per club. Hell even 3 million for each was enough. That left 10 million left to hold on to. If a struggling club like central coast or Newcastle needed 1 or 2 million to survive, at least the cash was there. Unlike the previous tv deal when from 2016-13 it was like 115-120 million over 7 years Most of the funding and focus was on those 10 A-league clubs. You know why? Because they were the main reasons and bulk of the value of the sports package. When the A-league renewed for 2017-8 season onwards, it reached to 60 million a year for 6 years. Thats 6 million per club or 5 million if we expanded to 12 sides. I am curious how you think the FA or APL will get this sport out of this poo heaps. No one, not even Foxtel will want the A-league for even 20-30 million a season for 6 or 7 games a round. Hell not even channel 7 would want it or sbs or ABC would want it if it was for free
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+x+xSource: https://twitter.com/simonhill1894/status/1787752941711143413?t=-1YoO9Zive1cWlbf0w-n3Q&s=19APL statement: “As part of our ongoing, planned strategic and commercial review, the APL Board met to review a number of our financial metrics and key leagues issues. Club Grants were one area under discussion today. The Board did not reach a resolution in its meeting. As there has been no agreement on this item, any Club Grant values reported are purely speculative. The APL Board will issue a statement when it reaches a resolution on this matter." Wonder why the franchise owners didn't sign off on it ? Perhaps they first asked for some clarification as to where all the fucking money has gone Franchise owner owners wanted their money as they are greedy clowns They wanted the FFA to give up control thinking the owners could do better. They wanted their "independence" too. Well look what happened. So any network video is stupid enough to pay 20 or 30 or 40 million a year for this league?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ? indeed even in the post covid slump our league is way above average for its wage bill at the moment we need 16k averages to break even on a wage budget below league 1. This isn't viable as it would mean we are one of the most attended leagues in the world and one of the weakest divisions in the first world. We need to find a way to be profitable with 8k attendance and build by reinvesting profits
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ? I dont know and I dont care. The point is the backbone of most Sporting leagues in this current situation is tv rights money. Again at one point in time, We had a tv deal back in 2017 or 2018 that was worth 346 million over 6 seasons. Thats at least 50-55 million a year. That was good money for the A-league and Socceroos package. and people on here still complained about it because its not fair. It should be as much as the AFL or NRL tv money lol. We had a good deal money wise when Foxtel paid money each year for the A-league rights from 2005-21. We were better off being looked after by foxtel when they had the EPL rights.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league? again its excuses. 1st off it was the Effnicks. Then it was the AFL and NRL and even the NBL were sabotaging us lol Now its covid, the cost of living crisis. The Centrelink Socceroos . Everyone on here said free to air was supposed to be the saviour. We got A-league games on SBS , then on ABC , now on channel 10. See what the APL should of done with that 40 millon a year from Paramount was actually spend money to Advertise this product.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ? Why dont you ask how many leagues IN AUSTRALIA are averaging more than 30k a game? https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/afl/crowds#google_vignette AFl at 39K this eyar even crummy old NRL is north of 20K https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/nrl/crowdsWe are a sport mad country but apparently COVID and cost of living only hit Aleague audiences?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here.Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL Yes the Lowys and FFA were poorly running the sport here... most of the funding and focus was on 10 Australian clubs and the other thousand plus clubs were being neglected grossly... Now the FA can do what it is supposed to do, look after the actual sport for a change. From 2013-17 the whole sport package was 40 million a year. So 10 A-league sides means 4 million per club. Hell even 3 million for each was enough. That left 10 million left to hold on to. If a struggling club like central coast or Newcastle needed 1 or 2 million to survive, at least the cash was there. Unlike the previous tv deal when from 2016-13 it was like 115-120 million over 7 years Most of the funding and focus was on those 10 A-league clubs. You know why? Because they were the main reasons and bulk of the value of the sports package. When the A-league renewed for 2017-8 season onwards, it reached to 60 million a year for 6 years. Thats 6 million per club or 5 million if we expanded to 12 sides. I am curious how you think the FA or APL will get this sport out of this poo heaps. No one, not even Foxtel will want the A-league for even 20-30 million a season for 6 or 7 games a round. Hell not even channel 7 would want it or sbs or ABC would want it if it was for free Sorry I was talking about football in Australia, not the fiances of 10 foreign owned franchises.... The Football federation of a country (any country) is mandated to administer the sport and make sure funding exists for national team setups, coaching, ALL of the country's various league administrations and to ensure we comply with FIFA mandates around participation, inclusion and development... Two totally different things...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ? Why dont you ask how many leagues IN AUSTRALIA are averaging more than 30k a game? https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/afl/crowds#google_vignette AFl at 39K this eyar even crummy old NRL is north of 20K https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/nrl/crowdsWe are a sport mad country but apparently COVID and cost of living only hit Aleague audiences? That wasn't his point though, was it ? Funny that you are quoting Austadiums for crowds, instead of Wookie ! I also quoted them, but you mocked it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ? Why dont you ask how many leagues IN AUSTRALIA are averaging more than 30k a game? https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/afl/crowds#google_vignette AFl at 39K this eyar even crummy old NRL is north of 20K https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/nrl/crowdsWe are a sport mad country but apparently COVID and cost of living only hit Aleague audiences? That wasn't his point though, was it ? Funny that you are quoting Austadiums for crowds, instead of Wookie ! I also quoted them, but you mocked it. Fair point, it was just the quickest set of number at hand... Also more so arguing the point that COVID and cost of living are excuses for poor crowds here in Australia, not a direct response to you... my bad.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league? I know the answer (or at least I think I do), it is Media. You absolutely need personalities at the top end of the game with strong business and media connections. If not, you will become irrelevant to the mainstream market and the professional game suffers and takes generations to recover. Football had its golden ticket in the Lowy family. A family with (in my opinion) a genuine love for the game, deep pockets and, most importantly, strong business, political and media connections. It is not surprising what the A-League achieved in that time as a result. We now have a bunch of, in Australian business terms at least, a bunch of executives with little or no influence. Accordingly, the game has fallen off the cliff.
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+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season
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+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;)
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+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P
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+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship.
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+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding.
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+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. They didn't enter an EOI so aren't eligible
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. I think there would be a solid legal argument that the franchiser failed to provide the financial support that would have been a part of the franchise contract..
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination.
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+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. But the FFA was holding this sport back? LoL But those bloody ethnics were the problem LoL But it's the AFL and NRL screwing us over LoL But the cricket and NBL are sabotaging us lol
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+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. But the FFA was holding this sport back? LoL But those bloody ethnics were the problem LoL But it's the AFL and NRL screwing us over LoL But the cricket and NBL are sabotaging us lol Honestly I've never heard that last one. Must have been a niche group withat argument.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination. Oh wow, thats even better lol.... So JJ can come along at anytime and tell the new owners, NOPE you cant use "Newcastle United" or "Sydney FC" in the Aleague anymore we are setting up new clubs in the championship? Hahahaha thats gold.
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+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. But the FFA was holding this sport back? LoL But those bloody ethnics were the problem LoL But it's the AFL and NRL screwing us over LoL But the cricket and NBL are sabotaging us lol Honestly I've never heard that last one. Must have been a niche group withat argument. Yeah BIG BASH is the reason Channel 10 is trying to kill the Aleague. To many crossover fans in the crucial 35-55 year old mum demographic. hahahahah
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination. Oh wow, thats even better lol.... So JJ can come along at anytime and tell the new owners, NOPE you cant use "Newcastle United" or "Sydney FC" in the Aleague anymore we are setting up new clubs in the championship? Hahahaha thats gold. Maybe, it definitely seems to be a bit of an odd arrangement. I'm assuming there would be some sort of trademark licensing agreement in place, but it's hard to say whether it is between FA and APL or FA and the individual clubs or both. On the surface, it definitely seems as though any A-League club could join the Championship while continuing to use their name and colours.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league? I know the answer (or at least I think I do), it is Media. You absolutely need personalities at the top end of the game with strong business and media connections. If not, you will become irrelevant to the mainstream market and the professional game suffers and takes generations to recover. Football had its golden ticket in the Lowy family. A family with (in my opinion) a genuine love for the game, deep pockets and, most importantly, strong business, political and media connections. It is not surprising what the A-League achieved in that time as a result. We now have a bunch of, in Australian business terms at least, a bunch of executives with little or no influence. Accordingly, the game has fallen off the cliff. song song song - reminds of a radio sketch whilst driving around long ago in Syd. Mate, in bold The Lowy fam had genuine luv to line their deep pockets no diff to all bunchs of white collar excutives. Their deep pockets only cared for their gain and they didn't read the room a shop front needs content and support from beneath whereas a sport such as FOOTBALL needs its poor grass roots foundations the middle to top having connections so as the whole system works together. It was falling off the cliff pre young Steve he just was the fam sacrificial lamb replaced by their customers - how ironic, they both deserve each other at the bottom of the cliff but the game will and has carried on, look below it survived.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination. Oh wow, thats even better lol.... So JJ can come along at anytime and tell the new owners, NOPE you cant use "Newcastle United" or "Sydney FC" in the Aleague anymore we are setting up new clubs in the championship? Hahahaha thats gold. Maybe, it definitely seems to be a bit of an odd arrangement. I'm assuming there would be some sort of trademark licensing agreement in place, but it's hard to say whether it is between FA and APL or FA and the individual clubs or both. On the surface, it definitely seems as though any A-League club could join the Championship while continuing to use their name and colours. FA still own the IP Part of the unbundling was allowing each franchise exclusive rights to use their IP in the way they want (rather than centrally controlled by the FA in the past) Gold Coast United use the FA owned name by permission
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