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They have to suspend them surely.
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lol as if fifa will sanction them like Russia 

we’ve seen the rabid psychotic response from anyone associated with Israel if anyone dare says even ‘ceasefire’ 

thei want to destroy anyone who speaks against them. FIFA’s banking partners, investment people etc would all be pressuring them not to do anything. 
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Netanyahu should be regarded as ‘international criminal’ same as putin is. Sucks for the Israeli and Russian players but yeah fifa should ban them
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Balin Trev - 16 May 2024 3:11 PM
Netanyahu should be regarded as ‘international criminal’ same as putin is. Sucks for the Israeli and Russian players but yeah fifa should ban them

Yeah your probably right, should also start banning ALL the countries with terrible regimes that have committed appalling war crimes recently ... Wont be many left to play international match's but at least FIFA can be ethical. 
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Always I have to feel for the players, staff and fans in these situations.
People are often quick to jump to the conclusion that the 'people' and the 'government' are one and the same.

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someguyjc - 16 May 2024 3:21 PM
Always I have to feel for the players, staff and fans in these situations.
People are often quick to jump to the conclusion that the 'people' and the 'government' are one and the same.

yep here here and such a double edged sword, shame for the good people no matter where from.
At the same time depending the country this stirs up people power in the hole IF a democracy vote them out.
Alas many are not.


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someguyjc - 16 May 2024 3:21 PM
Always I have to feel for the players, staff and fans in these situations.
People are often quick to jump to the conclusion that the 'people' and the 'government' are one and the same.

In both countries they largely are the one and same. 
The continued actions in Gaza has overwhelming support in Israel and from their diaspora/bretheren - Netanyahu doesn't - but his war does. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 May 2024 3:20 PM
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Yeah your probably right, should also start banning ALL the countries with terrible regimes that have committed appalling war crimes recently ... Wont be many left to play international match's but at least FIFA can be ethical. 

FIFA is a lot of things. Ethical isn't one of them
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Only right they are expelled, whilst many countries have committed war crimes, Israel's actions are distinct as there have been dozens of Palestinian footballers killed by Israeli airstrikes, including Mohammed Barakat, who played for the Palestine national football team!
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Ban them both. Palestine has been a safe haven for Hamas to cross into Israel and commit murders, how anyone can defend them as innocent in all this is beyond me.
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Dan_The_Red - 17 May 2024 6:50 AM
Ban them both. Palestine has been a safe haven for Hamas to cross into Israel and commit murders, how anyone can defend them as innocent in all this is beyond me.

Yeah everyone is here defending Hamas. 
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tsf - 17 May 2024 9:00 AM
Dan_The_Red - 17 May 2024 6:50 AM

Yeah everyone is here defending Hamas. 

In uni campus all around the country this morning some seem to be mate... "from the River to the Sea"??? Jesus Christ pffft this poor deluded tiktok generation.... 
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Dan_The_Red - 17 May 2024 6:50 AM
Ban them both. Palestine has been a safe haven for Hamas to cross into Israel and commit murders, how anyone can defend them as innocent in all this is beyond me.

Fatah isn't much better.. The "democratically elected" government of the Palestinian peoples... You know, the group that arranged the Munich Olympics slaughter of Israeli athletes..... And all the air plane hijackings in the 80s and 90s? I never ever thought I would live to see the day when I would see so called "leftist" students calling for genocide... What a world they have turned us into...... FIFA needs to stay out of it.... or sanction EVERYONE involved in war atrocities... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 9:28 AM
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In uni campus all around the country this morning some seem to be mate... "from the River to the Sea"??? Jesus Christ pffft this poor deluded tiktok generation.... 

Geez mate, you hate the old & you hate the young. Seems like you with the problem!!!!

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robbos - 17 May 2024 10:45 AM
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Geez mate, you hate the old & you hate the young. Seems like you with the problem!!!!

I dont actually hate anyone... I just dont like how our youth are being manipulated to hate while beleiveing they are doing the "right thing".

You've got a bit of an unhealthy obsession with me lately Robbo, let it go mate... Life is too short... go enjoy your plastic betting scandal franchises..
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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 10:57 AM
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I dont actually hate anyone... I just dont like how our youth are being manipulated to hate while beleiveing they are doing the "right thing".

You've got a bit of an unhealthy obsession with me lately Robbo, let it go mate... Life is too short... go enjoy your plastic betting scandal franchises..

No obsession mate, having fun at your expense, you just don't see the agenda driven drivel you go on about. Sth Melbourne not in the A-league so I dislike it & will criticse is for everything it's worth, you are worse than the AFL supporter who fears for their tiny game because football is so big.

This view that the youth of today cannot think for themselves is also amazement to me, no wonder you live in such a bubble, life is too short, I allow for acceptance for all to act & think as their choice, also to enjoy what they like.
You spend your whole life bagging out anything you don't agree with, very TRUMP, Sky News, 2GB/3AW like, such a small conservative view of life.


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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 10:57 AM
robbos - 17 May 2024 10:45 AM

I dont actually hate anyone... I just dont like how our youth are being manipulated to hate while beleiveing they are doing the "right thing".

You've got a bit of an unhealthy obsession with me lately Robbo, let it go mate... Life is too short... go enjoy your plastic betting scandal franchises..

From my understanding you are of Greek heritage. How would you feel if Turkiye was still occupying the whole of Greece and dictating the way Greeks live? 

There is no hate. People are allowed to want freedom for Palestine and the Palestinian people. 
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theFOOTBALLlover - 17 May 2024 12:00 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 10:57 AM

From my understanding you are of Greek heritage. How would you feel if Turkiye was still occupying the whole of Greece and dictating the way Greeks live? 

There is no hate. People are allowed to want freedom for Palestine and the Palestinian people. 

Hahahha that is perhaps a poor choice of argument mate.

For your enlightenent my friend, Turkey IS still occupying a sovereign country CYPRUS (at least 1/3 of it) and has been illegally doing so since 1974... 
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2022-002514_EN.html

Why are there no protesters outside the Turkish embassy calling for the Australian Government to cease trade with Turkey and for FIFA to ban all Turkish sporting teams from World Cup, UEFA and the like???  Is the Armenian and Pontik Greek genocide, something the Turkish Dictatorship (yes shock horror there are more than one totalitarian regimes currently around the world) still doesnt even acknowledge as happening, not something as equally abhorrent as what the Israeli Defence Force is doing to Gaza and what the Hamas terrorists (Sorry Erdogan calls them freedom fighters) did to children on October 7th last year???? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide

I know there is a lot of emotion in the protest and just want you to understand that I want a free Palestine and self determination of the Arab people of the Gaza and West Bank region as much as anyone else... Maybve more than anyone else actually. What the Israelis have done in Palestine is genocide, pure and simple they have acted like avenging animals towards to Arabs in a land that, at best, is historically and geopolitical ambiguous... But I HATE that young people are being polarized towards anti-sematism as the only path forward. The very same kids who have fought for freedom of sexual orientation, for black lives matter, for equal rights for ALL humans on this planet are pushing for the wiping out of the Jews?????? Why? 
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robbos - 17 May 2024 11:19 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 10:57 AM

No obsession mate, having fun at your expense, you just don't see the agenda driven drivel you go on about. Sth Melbourne not in the A-league so I dislike it & will criticse is for everything it's worth, you are worse than the AFL supporter who fears for their tiny game because football is so big.

This view that the youth of today cannot think for themselves is also amazement to me, no wonder you live in such a bubble, life is too short, I allow for acceptance for all to act & think as their choice, also to enjoy what they like.
You spend your whole life bagging out anything you don't agree with, very TRUMP, Sky News, 2GB/3AW like, such a small conservative view of life.


Uh OK buddy... thats ummm, good... well done... clean up when you are finished and remember not to indulge too much you'll go blind. 
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thread is going as well as expected 
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tsf - 17 May 2024 1:06 PM
thread is going as well as expected 

??? It seems pretty civil?
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Pretty weak, but unsurprising FA will abstain. Although I guess its better than voting for them to stay. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 12:43 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 17 May 2024 12:00 PM

Hahahha that is perhaps a poor choice of argument mate.

For your enlightenent my friend, Turkey IS still occupying a sovereign country CYPRUS (at least 1/3 of it) and has been illegally doing so since 1974... 
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2022-002514_EN.html

Why are there no protesters outside the Turkish embassy calling for the Australian Government to cease trade with Turkey and for FIFA to ban all Turkish sporting teams from World Cup, UEFA and the like???  Is the Armenian and Pontik Greek genocide, something the Turkish Dictatorship (yes shock horror there are more than one totalitarian regimes currently around the world) still doesnt even acknowledge as happening, not something as equally abhorrent as what the Israeli Defence Force is doing to Gaza and what the Hamas terrorists (Sorry Erdogan calls them freedom fighters) did to children on October 7th last year???? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide

I know there is a lot of emotion in the protest and just want you to understand that I want a free Palestine and self determination of the Arab people of the Gaza and West Bank region as much as anyone else... Maybve more than anyone else actually. What the Israelis have done in Palestine is genocide, pure and simple they have acted like avenging animals towards to Arabs in a land that, at best, is historically and geopolitical ambiguous... But I HATE that young people are being polarized towards anti-sematism as the only path forward. The very same kids who have fought for freedom of sexual orientation, for black lives matter, for equal rights for ALL humans on this planet are pushing for the wiping out of the Jews?????? Why? 

I'm well aware of what is happening in Cyprus and Armenia. I grew up in the inner west of Sydney. Coached at a Cypriot club. Have plenty of Greek, Cypriot and Armenian mates. No one is stopping people from protesting. 

No one is pushing at wiping out Jewish people. Don't let the Western Media make it about Jews vs Muslims. This is the real issue.The issue is against Zionists and Israel. There are plenty of Jewish people asking for a free Palestine.
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theFOOTBALLlover - 17 May 2024 2:54 PM
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I'm well aware of what is happening in Cyprus and Armenia. I grew up in the inner west of Sydney. Coached at a Cypriot club. Have plenty of Greek, Cypriot and Armenian mates. No one is stopping people from protesting. 

No one is pushing at wiping out Jewish people. Don't let the Western Media make it about Jews vs Muslims. This is the real issue.The issue is against Zionists and Israel. There are plenty of Jewish people asking for a free Palestine.

Fair enough, but my question to you is WHY? Why one "cause" above another? What drives the protest? You dont see many Ukraine flags out anymore, just Free Palestine graffiti and Keffiye scarves worn as a fashion accessory...   The case is INDEED against Zionism (a vile ideology if there ever was one) I agree, but it has sparked protest which is increasingly (at least based on the opinions of people I have asked about it) becoming anti-Jew, not anti-Zionist .....  My best mates daughter and her friends attended the Melbourne uni protests and asking them their opinions it was all platitudes and slogans... "Free Palestine" has become a t-shirt not an ideology... My heart bleeds for the innocent on both sides of the struggle... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 May 2024 3:20 PM
Balin Trev - 16 May 2024 3:11 PM

...but at least FIFA can be ethical. 

There's a first time for everything.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 3:06 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 17 May 2024 2:54 PM

Fair enough, but my question to you is WHY? Why one "cause" above another? What drives the protest?

Short answer. TikTok, Twitter, Insta, etc. It's trendy.
I'm sure there are some young people that are genuinely educated on the situation and know exactly what they are doing. However there are plenty of others that are definitely protesting just because they think they should be and not because they know why. Everyone else is wearing panda dunks so I'm going to wear panda dunks too. They'll move onto something else soon enough.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 3:06 PM

Short answer. TikTok, Twitter, Insta, etc. It's trendy.
I'm sure there are some young people that are genuinely educated on the situation and know exactly what they are doing. However there are plenty of others that are definitely protesting just because they think they should be and not because they know why. Everyone else is wearing panda dunks so I'm going to wear panda dunks too. They'll move onto something else soon enough.

Thats exactly whats shit me mate...Anyway to everyone calling for Israel's expulsion from FIFA and then UN and whatever else ... carry one, wake me up when we are next at war with Eastasia or is it Eurasia these days? 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 12:43 PM

 There are plenty of Jewish people asking for a free Palestine.

If you mean advocating for a two state solution that is true. If it means not being a zionist that is a fringe position amongst Jews comparable to cherry picking a bunch of Black republicans for their views on racism

And there has been a lot of eliminationist rhetoric and even more antisemitic language. Antisemetic hate crimes soared in the west after october 7 and before Israels response. It was already at a very high base.  Blood libel is also anti semitic and it has been common to project the worst crimes of the west onto israel which is blood libel
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Monoethnic Social Club - 17 May 2024 3:06 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 17 May 2024 2:54 PM

Fair enough, but my question to you is WHY? Why one "cause" above another? What drives the protest? You dont see many Ukraine flags out anymore, just Free Palestine graffiti and Keffiye scarves worn as a fashion accessory...   The case is INDEED against Zionism (a vile ideology if there ever was one) I agree, but it has sparked protest which is increasingly (at least based on the opinions of people I have asked about it) becoming anti-Jew, not anti-Zionist .....  My best mates daughter and her friends attended the Melbourne uni protests and asking them their opinions it was all platitudes and slogans... "Free Palestine" has become a t-shirt not an ideology... My heart bleeds for the innocent on both sides of the struggle... 

People are allowed to protest one thing over another. It is their choice. It is not to say that they don't care about other topics but people have jobs.. they don't always have time to protest every ill of the world. If you are more interested in the issues in Cyprus, it is up to you to organise and garner the support of others to join you in protest.
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