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What a fun watch. Anyone else see it? They really brought something special to the a league and their acl win is probably Australian footballs biggest achievement given who they had to get past
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Not yet it's on sbs demand so I'll check it out also Adelaides one
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Yeah, it was a great doco. Watched it yesterday.
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grazorblade
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+xNot yet it's on sbs demand so I'll check it out also Adelaides one Oh adelaide has a doco?
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+x+xNot yet it's on sbs demand so I'll check it out also Adelaides one Oh adelaide has a doco? https://youtu.be/PHBsnOcXvrA?si=YYKP5HEvmaee59Es
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Decentric 2
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On SBS demand.
Thanks for alerting me Grazor!
No Aussie football fans can afford to miss this film. I think it is excellent!
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so, having watched most last night. Excellent eh D2 - yes and no, sadly I see a rise and fall. It actually opened my eyes a little more IF i can carry on....... Disheartenning how all the troubles were handled by the Lowy admin added by the typical hating football media that we're in droves. The Police attitude because football supporters are trouble makers and scum if they could descride it that way. Sure some behaviour was OTT, nothing I'd condone - very similar infact not much different to the ol NSL episodes but this is 2005 onwards....... I didn't attend games because of the RBB getting out of hand, you know the usual small % ruin it for all. Passion is one thing I have spades of, but aggro, verbal abuse and violence nope. and look where its ended up, the RBB/supporters most have been driven away, even the well behaved ones had a gutful, incl MV's and the other main ones. I giggle the Lowy rhetoric looking ahead was clense the ethnics sell, well what do you think most of football in Western Sydney is, ethnics and WSW supporters. Seriously what a sell up by the AL back in the day and so many followed and believe to this day the NSL/enthnics were a black mark to the game, you saw it all in the doco what had become today. Ironic. Ethnics galore in good ol AFL land in Melb as mentioned in other threads becoming part of the aussie fabric, same applies to NRL Clubs, the Dogs, full on ethnics, Rabbits/Chooks have plenty. In fact most NRL Clubs have huge % of ethnic supporters, so why was there the beat up against ethnic NSL clubs so much. Correct - they got wilder at certain times compared to the AFL/NRL, early anglo influence that didn't apply to football because ethnics founded football more than anglos here (Clubs) therefore it was a easy target to exploit politically and media wise. Has there ever been a long time NRL/AFL Club started by ethnics ? Just a thought for I don't know of any NRL being in Sydney. Otherwise nice to a local football doco but it saddens me as mentioned.
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+xso, having watched most last night. Excellent eh D2 - yes and no, sadly I see a rise and fall. It actually opened my eyes a little more IF i can carry on....... Disheartenning how all the troubles were handled by the Lowy admin added by the typical hating football media that we're in droves. The Police attitude because football supporters are trouble makers and scum if they could descride it that way. Excellent in terms of the film maker elucidating WSW rising so quickly, the mentality of WSW supporters, the inherent problems of the Aus general milieu in response to active support, the size of WSW active support at games, the repudiation of right wing ultra style values of fans in Europe by well known Aus football pundits, the perceptions of WSW fans by the upper echelons of the police hierarchy, etc.
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Biggest surprise was foster was anti ultraz
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If u want to stalk decentric feel free to do it in extra time, or make a no decentrics forum or something Lets keep this at least vaguely about wsw
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In terms of being insightful, the film really encapsulated the socioeconomic dichotomy between two sections of Sydney - East and West. It also provided a level of insight into how culturally diverse Western Sydney is.
I found the insights of the young South American women and the older female school teacher fascinating. For the first time in her life, the teacher was shoved off her feet and claimed to have been assaulted by police, because she was in a large group of WSW supporters at a game. Any teacher has to undergo strict Working With Vulnerable People and and even stricter criteria for Teacher Registration. She would have probably have had to undergo more stringent criteria to be a practising teacher, than the cops had to undergo to become cops.
One of the things the NSW head cop alluded to, was he considered the WSW supporters were intimidating and were violent towards other supporters from other clubs. Once I saw a video in the news where large numbers of WSW and Melb Vic supporters were involved in scuffles.
Are there any fans from other clubs viewing this, who have endured acts of intimidation on them from the past WSW RBB?
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+xBiggest surprise was foster was anti ultraz I was surprised too. Some of the ultras in Europe are pretty right wing. To an extent I was a bit perplexed none of Ant Covic, Shannon Cole and Mark Bridge could see beyond the euphoric feeling of having such large and vocal WSW active support, and any transgressions carried out by the RBB. From the perspective of watching football on TV, the RBB really added to the atmosphere of games in Aus. Their presence crossed over into mainstream Aus uninterested in football.
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+xEthnics galore in good ol AFL land in Melb as mentioned in other threads becoming part of the aussie fabric, same applies to NRL Clubs, the Dogs, full on ethnics, Rabbits/Chooks have plenty. In fact most NRL Clubs have huge % of ethnic supporters, so why was there the beat up against ethnic NSL clubs so much. Correct - they got wilder at certain times compared to the AFL/NRL, early anglo influence that didn't apply to football because ethnics founded football more than anglos here (Clubs) therefore it was a easy target to exploit politically and media wise. Has there ever been a long time NRL/AFL Club started by ethnics ? Just a thought for I don't know of any NRL being in Sydney. Otherwise nice to a local football doco but it saddens me as mentioned. Very good points raised, LFC.
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+xIn terms of being insightful, the film really encapsulated the socioeconomic dichotomy between two sections of Sydney - East and West. It also provided a level of insight into how culturally diverse Western Sydney is. I found the insights of the young South American women and the older female school teacher fascinating. For the first time in her life, the teacher was shoved off her feet and claimed to have been assaulted by police, because she was in a large group of WSW supporters at a game. Any teacher has to undergo strict Working With Vulnerable People and and even stricter criteria for Teacher Registration. She would have probably have had to undergo more stringent criteria to be a practising teacher, than the cops had to undergo to become cops. One of the things the NSW head cop alluded to, was he considered the WSW supporters were intimidating and were violent towards other supporters from other clubs. Once I saw a video in the news where large numbers of WSW and Melb Vic supporters were involved in scuffles. Are there any fans from other clubs viewing this, who have endured acts of intimidation on them from the past WSW RBB? yep absolutely.
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+x+xIn terms of being insightful, the film really encapsulated the socioeconomic dichotomy between two sections of Sydney - East and West. It also provided a level of insight into how culturally diverse Western Sydney is. I found the insights of the young South American women and the older female school teacher fascinating. For the first time in her life, the teacher was shoved off her feet and claimed to have been assaulted by police, because she was in a large group of WSW supporters at a game. Any teacher has to undergo strict Working With Vulnerable People and and even stricter criteria for Teacher Registration. She would have probably have had to undergo more stringent criteria to be a practising teacher, than the cops had to undergo to become cops. One of the things the NSW head cop alluded to, was he considered the WSW supporters were intimidating and were violent towards other supporters from other clubs. Once I saw a video in the news where large numbers of WSW and Melb Vic supporters were involved in scuffles. Are there any fans from other clubs viewing this, who have endured acts of intimidation on them from the past WSW RBB? yep absolutely. How bad?
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+x+x+xIn terms of being insightful, the film really encapsulated the socioeconomic dichotomy between two sections of Sydney - East and West. It also provided a level of insight into how culturally diverse Western Sydney is. I found the insights of the young South American women and the older female school teacher fascinating. For the first time in her life, the teacher was shoved off her feet and claimed to have been assaulted by police, because she was in a large group of WSW supporters at a game. Any teacher has to undergo strict Working With Vulnerable People and and even stricter criteria for Teacher Registration. She would have probably have had to undergo more stringent criteria to be a practising teacher, than the cops had to undergo to become cops. One of the things the NSW head cop alluded to, was he considered the WSW supporters were intimidating and were violent towards other supporters from other clubs. Once I saw a video in the news where large numbers of WSW and Melb Vic supporters were involved in scuffles. Are there any fans from other clubs viewing this, who have endured acts of intimidation on them from the past WSW RBB? yep absolutely. How bad? I had to watch them play once - it was horrendous
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one thing that interested me was the wsw capo's philosophy that there is a game within a game. If your supporters outcheer and outchant the others it can tip the result
I think wsw's amazing early success was partly from them having the most intense supporters. Oz atmosphere v uruguay in 2005 probably helped us too
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+xIf u want to stalk decentric feel free to do it in extra time, or make a no decentrics forum or something Lets keep this at least vaguely about wsw So are you now a mod? Are you modding posts? How did localstar's post get modded? What's going on?
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+x+x+x+xIn terms of being insightful, the film really encapsulated the socioeconomic dichotomy between two sections of Sydney - East and West. It also provided a level of insight into how culturally diverse Western Sydney is. I found the insights of the young South American women and the older female school teacher fascinating. For the first time in her life, the teacher was shoved off her feet and claimed to have been assaulted by police, because she was in a large group of WSW supporters at a game. Any teacher has to undergo strict Working With Vulnerable People and and even stricter criteria for Teacher Registration. She would have probably have had to undergo more stringent criteria to be a practising teacher, than the cops had to undergo to become cops. One of the things the NSW head cop alluded to, was he considered the WSW supporters were intimidating and were violent towards other supporters from other clubs. Once I saw a video in the news where large numbers of WSW and Melb Vic supporters were involved in scuffles. Are there any fans from other clubs viewing this, who have endured acts of intimidation on them from the past WSW RBB? yep absolutely. How bad? I had to watch them play once - it was horrendous I have no issues of well behaved and fun banter amongst opposing supporters but Grazor asked how bad ? Put it this way, as seen on the doco of intimidation by them towards other supporters, the Sydney derbies were great got to say, I took my kids to SFS/Allianz and they were great atmosphere that was like my young ol days seeing NSL derbies. My daughter would be singing dancing with the Cove chants etcetc..... I always avoided going to Parra mind you BUT I gave in a few times. Being we sided with SFC I would never ever be in blue for starters. 1st time I went was with a group of my team mates and we went for a pre feed in Church st. I watched the wsw march come through and they were giving it to many SFC suppoprters, it got a bit rough and woeful verbal abuse, ok thats cool let it slide. End of game it just gets pretty mad win lose or draw. You see some picking fights just for the heck. Next I took 2 of my kids and wife. We sat away from the main wsw support but as always there's always a mix. We had a wsw kitted out younger fam near us, couple with a young kid say 3/4yrs. This bloke was turning around verbally sending abuse towards my fam, you kind of let it slide and go well that going to football and passion. This bloke carried on and on and getting more heated up even whilst his kid right next to him, you think WTF is this guy on something or something. Others around also were shaking their heads thinking WTF and also feeling intimidated. It just became a joke, some people left their seats. Couldn't wait for the game to end. Then walking back to the car you have eyes at the back of your head for you can't trust anything near or around you whilst your looking out for your kids and wife. Went 1 more time against my better judgement, never ever again. I hear more from my 19yr old daughter for her boyfriend likes going to SFC games, some mates of his do follow the Cove pre game stuff. I hear whats going on - some of it is just plain pathetic shennigans that I question are they really there for football ? or to really cause a muck.
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Really well made doco
Wanderers probably lucky to win in Saudi with a few missed pen calls.
The fans can't whine about police presence when you have some of them throwing flares, breaking seats And starting fights but caro Wilson was fucked leaking the lost
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdONT-arBx8ABC report. It's a video so I guess it kinda fits here.
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Thanks for posting.
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