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Broich in commentary box tearing Scotland transition decisions apart. Always going back with no boldness. Switzerland closing down to be fair but it's 11 individuals. No options and running all away from the ball. 
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after hearing some depressed scotts on the radio all week I'm glad the scotts are doing better

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Still a confusing Scotland performance. Decent result. Could've gone either way. Interesting to note Switzerland faded like against Hungary.

Scotland need a back 4 with a flat 3 midfield then a 10 and 2 up top. They've got to force players to run to create things. The positioning now sees everyone rooted in their area with very little trust to leave it. A little guy up top is smothered. McGinn was so anonymous again. 
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Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 12:13 AM
Croatia look bang average.

Albania flopping like a middle eastern side though the ref seems on top of it.

They Croatia have had a great ride with this generation. world cup final & semi finals, amazing, but it appears to be coming to an end.
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So many goals scored through the legs. 


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Pasquali - 20 Jun 2024 1:28 AM
tsf - 20 Jun 2024 12:57 AM

Sure beats Asian football

Not just the technical and physical aspects of the game, but having stadiums full of passionate fans lifts the game immensely.

This is why it's the premier football tournament.
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johnszasz - 20 Jun 2024 6:55 AM
Still a confusing Scotland performance. Decent result. Could've gone either way. Interesting to note Switzerland faded like against Hungary.

Scotland need a back 4 with a flat 3 midfield then a 10 and 2 up top. They've got to force players to run to create things. The positioning now sees everyone rooted in their area with very little trust to leave it. A little guy up top is smothered. McGinn was so anonymous again. 

That's my feeling too. They played too slow at times except for their goal. Let Akanji do his thing. Nervy back passes didn't help. 
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robbos - 20 Jun 2024 7:47 AM
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They Croatia have had a great ride with this generation. world cup final & semi finals, amazing, but it appears to be coming to an end.

They still have great players. It's amazing watching their technical ability under pressure compared to our mob. 
But yes, they could be at a rebuilding phase 
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Albanians the surprise of the tournament....  Gonna piss my pants when England fans realise that Albania has won a Euro and they, again, choke. HAHAHAHAHAh

Dont get excited, toungue is firmly in cheek.
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tsf - 20 Jun 2024 10:36 AM
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They still have great players. It's amazing watching their technical ability under pressure compared to our mob. 
But yes, they could be at a rebuilding phase 

agreed on both posts, watching hurts for despite their obvious ability due to a big bus albanians parked many of the Cros were either flat footed and then over cooked/did things many times in frustration........
The skill is all there but for eg, upon regaining possesion in their final third they are too slow for my liking whilst the albanians had pressed up finally leaving holes.
They hardly took that opportunity with pace.
Luka, (now I know he hasn't played many 80/90min at RM) his game reading is for all to see but, not many killer pass's behind enemy lines, he's the roving 6 play and the lack of creativity was showing for me.
Kovacic needs to step up alot more.
This next game is gonna hurt me either way may the best blood on the day win.


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LFC. - 20 Jun 2024 10:56 AM
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Luka, (now I know he hasn't played many 80/90min at RM) his game reading is for all to see but, not many killer pass's behind enemy lines, he's the roving 6 play and the lack of creativity was showing for me.


He had a couple of fleeting moments but didn't stamp his authority. 

I love watching him play though, was lucky enough to see him play in Croatia before he moved abroad. Utter champion of the game 
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Plenty to play for in that group, Germany has already qualified so it will be interesting to see how they approach Switzerland who only need a draw to finish top 2.

Scotland vs Switzerland was a funny match, Scotland scored early and then Switzerland scored a banger thanks to Shaqiri after that they took control of the game but couldn't get the 2nd goal then Scotland got close to scoring from the set piece at the end.

Plenty to play for as I mentioned, Hungary after losing still have a chance to go through on best 3rd place team, Scotland as well so that will be an intriguing game.

Also how good was Scotland's anthem before the game, their fans are something else! 
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LFC. - 20 Jun 2024 10:56 AM
tsf - 20 Jun 2024 10:36 AM

agreed on both posts, watching hurts for despite their obvious ability due to a big bus albanians parked many of the Cros were either flat footed and then over cooked/did things many times in frustration........
The skill is all there but for eg, upon regaining possesion in their final third they are too slow for my liking whilst the albanians had pressed up finally leaving holes.
They hardly took that opportunity with pace.
Luka, (now I know he hasn't played many 80/90min at RM) his game reading is for all to see but, not many killer pass's behind enemy lines, he's the roving 6 play and the lack of creativity was showing for me.
Kovacic needs to step up alot more.
This next game is gonna hurt me either way may the best blood on the day win.

Croatia's defence has really let them down this tournament, if Albania had executed better they could have scored more in the first half I do agree they got genuine quality especially in midfield but if they dont fix their defence they got little hope in going far in this tournament. 
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tsf - 20 Jun 2024 10:36 AM
robbos - 20 Jun 2024 7:47 AM

They still have great players. It's amazing watching their technical ability under pressure compared to our mob. 
But yes, they could be at a rebuilding phase 

They came to life in the second half and were all over Albania and then it all blew up in their faces in ET.


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How comical was Hungary's defending for Germany's 2nd goal?
 
The captain literally jogged from the corner of the D to near the penalty spot and put it in the net. Not a player within 3 metres of him. Just ridiculous at this level.




Also, Shaqiri's goal. Corker.


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tsf - 20 Jun 2024 10:36 AM
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They still have great players. It's amazing watching their technical ability under pressure compared to our mob. 
But yes, they could be at a rebuilding phase 

I think per capita the Croats has the best technical ability in the world. There is no comparison to our lot.

Modric, funny to say, is so underrated, if he was Spanish, English or French, they would be talking him up far more. His technical ability is supreme.
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How's Germany's first goal?

Massive shove in the back, defender goes flying = ref goes 'all good'.  VAR checks it, nothing to see here. 

Have to laugh. Imagine if they reffed like that in the A League. People would lose their minds.

Anyone interested in how refs ref at this level pay close attention to how much physical stuff is let go. The rules seems to be if you can't hold a player off or stand your ground, bad luck. 

It's fascinating to watch. 





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Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 5:57 PM
How's Germany's first goal?

Massive shove in the back, defender goes flying = ref goes 'all good'.  VAR checks it, nothing to see here. 

Have to laugh. Imagine if they reffed like that in the A League. People would lose their minds.

Anyone interested in how refs ref at this level pay close attention to how much physical stuff is let go. The rules seems to be if you can't hold a player off or stand your ground, bad luck. 

It's fascinating to watch. 



Yep.
Generally with that - look for the forearms (that's when there's a foul).

Will need to watch the highlights from this mornings games though to see this incident though.
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Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 5:57 PM
How's Germany's first goal?

Massive shove in the back, defender goes flying = ref goes 'all good'.  VAR checks it, nothing to see here. 

Have to laugh. Imagine if they reffed like that in the A League. People would lose their minds.

Anyone interested in how refs ref at this level pay close attention to how much physical stuff is let go. The rules seems to be if you can't hold a player off or stand your ground, bad luck. 

It's fascinating to watch. 



Initially I saw nothing in it but then a real crunch right in the zone to knock the player down. 
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johnszasz - 20 Jun 2024 6:07 PM
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Initially I saw nothing in it but then a real crunch right in the zone to knock the player down. 

Yes BUT that's happening everywhere and they're letting it go which is fine by me if that's the level of physicality they want to allow.

No issue from me. I love the argy bargy. It should be a battle and a contest.


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NicCarBel - 20 Jun 2024 6:07 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 5:57 PM

Yep.
Generally with that - look for the forearms (that's when there's a foul).

Will need to watch the highlights from this mornings games though to see this incident though.

While you're at it watch Duka high kick a shot at goal and collect the croatian in the head. YC. Lol. (93rd minute.)

Sat in seminars for years where they go high foot, IDFK. High foot and contact RC. Again I don't care if that's what they've decided but they're definitely playing by a different set of rules at this level.


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NicCarBel - 20 Jun 2024 6:07 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 5:57 PM

Yep.
Generally with that - look for the forearms (that's when there's a foul).

Will need to watch the highlights from this mornings games though to see this incident though.

You won't see it on the highlights. You'll need the full match replay. 93rd minute.


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Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 6:34 PM
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Yes BUT that's happening everywhere and they're letting it go which is fine by me if that's the level of physicality they want to allow.

No issue from me. I love the argy bargy. It should be a battle and a contest.

I agree and I hate the backing into a marker and then just sitting on the floor to get a free. More physical natural movement needs to be permitted.
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Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 6:36 PM
NicCarBel - 20 Jun 2024 6:07 PM

While you're at it watch Duka high kick a shot at goal and collect the croatian in the head. YC. Lol. (93rd minute.)

Sat in seminars for years where they go high foot, IDFK. High foot and contact RC. Again I don't care if that's what they've decided but they're definitely playing by a different set of rules at this level.

Interesting, considering like you said, that's the way we've been told in the seminars. Will keep an eye out for it
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NicCarBel - 20 Jun 2024 7:06 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Jun 2024 6:36 PM

Interesting, considering like you said, that's the way we've been told in the seminars. Will keep an eye out for it

Just tried to screenshot it but optus have a clever way that doesn't let you do it.

He full on kicks him flush in the head. He is somewhat crouched but even so it seems that if you're shooting 'then that's OK'.

Pretty much meets every definition of 'dangerous' I've seen.





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Serbia threatening to pull out of the tournament if Croatia and Albania are not punished for "kill the serbs" chants.
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Just looked at the minutes in big 5 leagues from second teir euro nations today compared to 20 years ago

I was wrong! The 2nd teir has improved massively!

I guess this makes sense when there has been a huge rise of foreign players in the big 5. A lot of those are from europe
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Serbia out of jail with the last kick of the game.  





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For all their premier league stars, no english player willing to try and turn with their first touch when playing out, even when they are under little pressure

Also no one willing to pass the ball to players in front of the box against a set defence. Makes their attack a bit limited
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