You keep saying Twitter, but from my understanding Trump never shut down Twitter.

I support Trump in shutting down any social media company for deleting posts or videos, not fact checking. 

That's two completely different things. Trump shutting down a company that censors people is not the same as Trump shutting down a company that fact checks. 

I know you're not that silly to not know the difference.

I totally understand anyone making an argument in favour of someone like YouTube being allowed to put on only what they want, considering they're a private company. Legally they're in the right, but morally they're not considering their information influences millions of people around the world. 

But on the whole wouldn't you honestly prefer to live in a society where there is open debate instead of censorship?

mate you leapt to the support of Trump shutting down twitter right after they fact checked him. 

 That's a great thing. I've made it very clear that the best way to defeat a theory against your own is to tackle it head on, which is basically fact checking. 

I've also made it clear what I'm totally against is YouTube removing videos off completely instead of fact checking it. 

Don't you prefer it that way yourself Muz? Or do you prefer the video to be wiped off completely?

I think what's retarded is the fact on many occasions I've been talking about deleted videos. I'm saying I would love it if social media outlets wouldn't be able to delete videos that go against the narrative.  

I have no idea where you get the impression that I'm against fact checking.

This is retarded logic.  Imagine for a minute Scomo said Port Arthur was a false flag operation on Twitter and Twitter provided a link to fact check that.  Are you saying that isn't a good thing?

Not at all, you can't compare a newspaper and say YouTube. 

I can't write up an article and expect SMH to run it when I don't even work for them, however with YouTube anything I put on it is accepted, until it starts to get millions of views and then gets deleted. 

There's been a shit load of videos that have been deleted by YouTube. None of which that incite violence which in that case would be fair to remove by YouTube. 

First, they aren't censoring. They are putting labels on certain statements (like a fact check, so that isn't admitting defeat).

Second, it's a private platform. So they can delete things as they see fit. By your analogy, a newspaper refusing to run an article is 'admitting defeat'. 

I think you've misunderstood what I said. 

I already agreed with Carlito that Twitter or any other social media company has the right to censor views that go against their narrative. 

I think it is childish and pathetic behavior by social media companies when they do sensor, because in a way they're admitting defeat. Instead of coming out and challenging the claim that goes against their view to prove it wrong, they simply refuse to debate and censor the argument. 

So personally offcourse it would make perfect sense for me, and it should make perfect sense to you and everyone else that you prefer different opinions to be allowed to be expressed, as long as they don't incite violence. And this should be the case regardless of you agreeing or disagreeing with a certain view, unless offcourse you're narrow minded and believe that because your view is right, there should be no opposition to your view. 

As for Trumps tweets I have no idea what that's got to do with what I've said. I'm simply saying I'd love it if it became illegal to censor people. And my reasoning is that I love to view both sides of every story and make you my own mind what's right or wrong and so on. 

This as well.

They haven't even NOT published his tweets. They put a fact-check on a completely unsubstantiated lie and they put a violence glorification warning on the one where he threatened to kill people.

Aww diddums, ol Trump the snowflake can't handle any criticism of his unsubstantiated lies.

It’s not a freedom of speech issue. He can say what he wants but only on his own website.

Twitter is free to allow the publication of what it thinks is reasonable. He is exercising his own freedom of speech by asking Twitter to publish his comments on their platform but Twitter is also within their rights to not publish it.

Imagine someone suing a newspaper for not publishing their op ed or an ad and then claiming censorship. It’s a bit idiotic.

What it will lead to is SM platforms just outright deleting shit.

Discourse will be worse off overall, this isn't going to lead to far right loonies having their anti 5G theories posted more often lol.

-PB

"when the looting starts the shooting starts" 

Fuck me swinging, this dude is a national leader ffs.

Be surprised if America hasn't devoured itself by the time the election rolls around.

-PB

That's right you couldn't answer the question which is normally the case when someone is talking bullshit. 

Anyways I'm not saying that it'll go ahead because I do agree with you in regards to them being a private company, and therefore being allowed to censor people that go against their narrative. 

What I am saying is that I hope it goes ahead, and if so it is a great move for everyone on social media. Well except those who don't like to have their views challenged. But I'm not one of those people, I'm open to debate.

Lol you're  so far right and partisan that you don't see this as an overeach   He can't make them shutdown because they're a private company . He can't hack it for being fact checked. He is a child he has other issues but wastes all his time to appease his target audience which is people like you who are so deluded because you chose to belive everyone is against you. 

Yeh why wouldn't I be happy? At the same time why wouldn't you be happy?

What is it that scares you so much about freedom of speech, or the fact that there's two sides to every story, and that a debate for and against can only be a good thing for everyone involved. 

Also can you give me an example of me being against someone being allowed to be free to say what they want that goes against my views? Or are you just talking shit and making things up?

Of course you think it's a good move.  If you think  a private company would shut down for it is hilarious.  Freedom of speech . They're private companies . Funny how people like you are all for freedom of speech but only for your views.  

I think it is a great move by Trump.

By the way it isn't an executive order to shut down social media. They can only be shut down if they censor people.

Personally I think this is a great move. 

Covid is the biggest issue and yet he signs an executive order for social media to be shut down.  

US death toll passed 101k, doing an absolutely bang up job.

-PB

Positively towards negative results kek

-PB

Fucking lol at the PressSec doxxing her boss

-PB

Obama and Bush on numerous occasions completely ignored questions themselves. The only difference is that they would say next please, and go onto the next question. 

Trump on the other hand will attack the journo or the media company they work for before he goes onto the next question.

Personally I'm just glad it is Trump that is president now, and not Clinton who was the other choice. 

At the end of the day he is the freakin president of the United States and it's his job to answer those questions.

Do you not think that Obama/Bush etc looked out at the press gallery and thought "these fuckers want to destroy me?". I'm sure they did but at the end of the day they still acted like statesmen. 

This almost goes beyond political leanings for me (I do not consider myself as a lefty one bit). The man is an embarrassment to the United States and is providing the rising authoritarian powers like China and Russia valuable ammunition to show the world that the western democratic system is a joke.

"Shuts down idiots" ?!  Haahaha.

He can't even answer questions that are hand wrapped gifts.

Watch this amazing little clip when his pet propaganda show tosses him up an absolute peach to knock clean out of the park. 

F & F:  "This Sunday is mother's day, what are you plans and what are you going to do for Melania?"

https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/status/1258747974223454208?s=20

Well, we'll be together. I'm going to a Camp David meeting — a big meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Camp David is this very special place that nobody ever gets to see but it's a great work environment. And we're going to have meetings on different things.

And we're going to have meetings on different things, and our military has never looked better. It's never been better. We've never had the kind of equipment that we have now.

And we had planes that were 50 years old, and more. Fighter jets — now we have the best in the world, the F-35 and the F-18, and you know, what we have is incredible.

The equipment and the people we have are great, but you know, they have to have equipment.

And we spent $1.5 trillion — really, more than that. And we've totally rebuilt our military, which you have to do. You know, I'm a very budget-conscious person. But you have to do.

The nice thing is — it's all built in the USA. And plenty of equipment coming. Lot of this equipment is coming. So it's very important that we have the best military and we have the... our military has never been in condition like it is now and soon will be."

The bloke is not well.

I just don't see a point in answering questions of idiots who constantly make shit up about you, yet cover up all the negatives of your rivals

100% some of those questions are legitimate, I'm not denying that at all. I'm just admitting that I enjoy watching him piss off those biased dickheads asking the questions. 

Like most righfies and trump fans they don't care.  They live in a bubble where questions get answered by arguing and roundabout ways

They aren't even hard questions. Most of them could be answered in a pretty straight forward answer but he either has no idea or believes anything he says, including being honest, would lead to him looking bad. It's nuts.

By "idiots" I take it you mean journalists asking legitimate questions?