Misinformation Disinformation Bill


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Lupi33 - 17 Sep 2024 3:43 PM
tsf - 17 Sep 2024 3:24 PM

If you want to get in the ring with Trump supporters there are plenty of forums available.  I suspect you lack the courage to take them on though.

As I've said before, my position on Trump is lesser of two evils, but I have problems with some of this foreign policies, and warp speed,  so I'm not the person to debate.

No chance I'd take on a trump supporter! They'd destroy anyone with their intellect and lack of woke mind virus - they don't listen to the legacy media and never got warped by getting an education. 

besides I am with you and them - it was a coup!
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tsf - 17 Sep 2024 3:53 PM
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No chance I'd take on a trump supporter! They'd destroy anyone with their intellect and lack of woke mind virus - they don't listen to the legacy media and never got warped by getting an education. 

besides I am with you and them - it was a coup!

when I read your posts I observe your lack of self awareness

keep fighting the good fight
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Lupi33 - 17 Sep 2024 7:19 PM
tsf - 17 Sep 2024 3:53 PM

when I read your posts I observe your lack of self awareness

keep fighting the good fight

Some people may criticise you for starting a thread on something you haven't even read, or understand but I think you've made some really articulate points, maga baby!



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tsf - 17 Sep 2024 7:50 PM
Lupi33 - 17 Sep 2024 7:19 PM

Some people may criticise you for starting a thread on something you haven't even read, or understand but I think you've made some really articulate points, maga baby!



Almost feel sorry for someone who has clearly only posted in echo chambers to come here and then be hit, smack in the face, with actual nuanced arguments. Nightmare stuff for the young fella.

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Munrubenmuz - 18 Sep 2024 5:50 AM
tsf - 17 Sep 2024 7:50 PM

Almost feel sorry for someone who has clearly only posted in echo chambers to come here and then be hit, smack in the face, with actual nuanced arguments. Nightmare stuff for the young fella.

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you're projecting yourself there champ
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trusted sources lol

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Lupi33 - 18 Sep 2024 9:45 AM
trusted sources lol

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You're missing quite a lot of the bill there, that clearly states this is for online platforms (social media/Facebook/X/Truth, etc).

But, what would define "Professional news content"? Good question actually. But this bill isn't to stop the news itself, it's regarding the sharing of information on websites/apps.
Best would probably be something linked to the Australian Press Council, which includes:
public members”, who have no affiliation with a media organisation 
Nominees of media organisations, including  major publishers of newspapers and magazines; a nominee for small publishers, as well as a nominee for the principal union for employees in the media industry 
Independent journalist members, who are not employed by a media organisation.

And this is basically to stop bullshitters parroting bullshit online with no sources. If you have a source (even if it's dodgy, but is at least comparable to what I'm about to go in below), then go for it. That's the whole point of discussion, is it not? As much as johnsmith used to be on the wrong side of everyone's arguments, at least he would try to incorporate sources that somewhat resembled valid publications.

Even better, the pages you decided to skip over actually define this:


Also. it looks like you're using an out of date Bill. Please do update it. I think you'll find there are no longer any 
references to "Content authorised by governments" in the manner that you highlighted.
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^^^ LoL.


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NicCarBel - 18 Sep 2024 10:23 AM
Lupi33 - 18 Sep 2024 9:45 AM

You're missing quite a lot of the bill there, that clearly states this is for online platforms (social media/Facebook/X/Truth, etc).

But, what would define "Professional news content"? Good question actually. But this bill isn't to stop the news itself, it's regarding the sharing of information on websites/apps.
Best would probably be something linked to the Australian Press Council, which includes:
public members”, who have no affiliation with a media organisation 
Nominees of media organisations, including  major publishers of newspapers and magazines; a nominee for small publishers, as well as a nominee for the principal union for employees in the media industry 
Independent journalist members, who are not employed by a media organisation.

And this is basically to stop bullshitters parroting bullshit online with no sources. If you have a source (even if it's dodgy, but is at least comparable to what I'm about to go in below), then go for it. That's the whole point of discussion, is it not? As much as johnsmith used to be on the wrong side of everyone's arguments, at least he would try to incorporate sources that somewhat resembled valid publications.

Even better, the pages you decided to skip over actually define this:


Also. it looks like you're using an out of date Bill. Please do update it. I think you'll find there are no longer any 
references to "Content authorised by governments" in the manner that you highlighted.

Who said it was to stop 'the news'?

Your above post is the most retarded thing I've read on this forum and that's saying something.  ...according to sources familiar with the matter.

Establishment media publishes misinformation constantly and independent journalists keep them accountable.  The only difference between one and the other is the former are backed by corporate sponsorship.  It doesn't make them any more credible than anyone you meet down at the local pub.  ...according to sources familiar with the matter.

Once again, you're making my point for me with your imbecilic take which you think is some kind of a win. ...according to sources familiar with the matter.
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Lupi33 - 18 Sep 2024 7:19 PM
NicCarBel - 18 Sep 2024 10:23 AM

Who said it was to stop 'the news'?

Your above post is the most retarded thing I've read on this forum and that's saying something.  ...according to sources familiar with the matter.

Establishment media publishes misinformation constantly and independent journalists keep them accountable.  The only difference between one and the other is the former are backed by corporate sponsorship.  It doesn't make them any more credible than anyone you meet down at the local pub.  ...according to sources familiar with the matter.

Once again, you're making my point for me with your imbecilic take which you think is some kind of a win. ...according to sources familiar with the matter.

trusted sources lol

EDIT: But.. one good point you've raised, which I've bolded above.
You still haven't outlined what you think is wrong with this bill. You. Yourself. Not your sources. You.
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NicCarBel - 18 Sep 2024 7:56 PM
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Not your sources. You.

He's waiting for someone in the MAGA circle to issue a one-liner so he can then mimic the language as per normal. 
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tsf - 19 Sep 2024 11:04 AM
NicCarBel - 18 Sep 2024 7:56 PM

He's waiting for someone in the MAGA circle to issue a one-liner so he can then mimic the language as per normal. 

Exactly right. He's read (or seen it on Sky news) that it's 'bad' but doesn't exactly know why yet.

Wait a couple of days Loopy and Rita will tell you.


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Munrubenmuz - 19 Sep 2024 3:23 PM
tsf - 19 Sep 2024 11:04 AM

Exactly right. He's read (or seen it on Sky news) that it's 'bad' but doesn't exactly know why yet.

Wait a couple of days Loopy and Rita will tell you.

I hate Sky News FYI

they exist for people like you to get worked up so you can play culture wars back and forth with gullible Liberal voters while the big issues are largely ignored or slanted

you're both as bad as one another
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Lupi33 - 20 Sep 2024 4:28 PM
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I hate Sky News FYI

they exist for people like you to get worked up so you can play culture wars back and forth with gullible Liberal voters while the big issues are largely ignored or slanted

you're both as bad as one another

You’re more of a free thinking ‘do your own research guy’ 



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tsf - 21 Sep 2024 9:05 AM
Lupi33 - 20 Sep 2024 4:28 PM

You’re more of a free thinking ‘do your own research guy’ 



neurolinguistic programming has captured your mind

you don't want to be like those grubby free thinkers who horror of horrors actually research topics from...(whispering) "the internet" 

no you want to be like the cool kids who are informed by such trusted sources as Q&A, The Feed, Triple J, Karl Kruszelnicki :laugh:  ...he wears loud shirts coz so you know he's cool right 



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Lupi33 - 21 Sep 2024 12:13 PM
tsf - 21 Sep 2024 9:05 AM

neurolinguistic programming has captured your mind



Like trump has captured yours? I suppose it's just a giant coincidence that you parrot his language and takes on whatever issue he is trying to pump it. 

Also weird, did you see albanese with Biden? Weird, didn't you say there was a coup with biden? What is he doing as the president as the US still? I can't keep up. 
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tsf - 21 Sep 2024 12:34 PM
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Like trump has captured yours? I suppose it's just a giant coincidence that you parrot his language and takes on whatever issue he is trying to pump it. 

Also weird, did you see albanese with Biden? Weird, didn't you say there was a coup with biden? What is he doing as the president as the US still? I can't keep up. 

He's a lame duck.  If he's meeting Albo you know its nothing important.

Your accusation that I'm 'pumping' any issue Trump takes on is a complete lie.

You're stuck in a binary world arguing inconsequential issues with people who aren't even present on this forum.  
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Lupi33 - 21 Sep 2024 2:46 PM
tsf - 21 Sep 2024 12:34 PM

You're stuck in a binary world

As are you it seems
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Like trump has captured yours? I suppose it's just a giant coincidence that you parrot his language and takes on whatever issue he is trying to pump it. 

Also weird, did you see albanese with Biden? Weird, didn't you say there was a coup with biden? What is he doing as the president as the US still? I can't keep up. 

He's a lame duck.  If he's meeting Albo you know its nothing important.

Your accusation that I'm 'pumping' any issue Trump takes on is a complete lie.

You're stuck in a binary world arguing inconsequential issues with people who aren't even present on this forum.  

Again, where was the coup? 
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Lupi33 - 21 Sep 2024 2:46 PM
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Like trump has captured yours? I suppose it's just a giant coincidence that you parrot his language and takes on whatever issue he is trying to pump it. 

Also weird, did you see albanese with Biden? Weird, didn't you say there was a coup with biden? What is he doing as the president as the US still? I can't keep up. 

He's a lame duck.  If he's meeting Albo you know its nothing important.

Your accusation that I'm 'pumping' any issue Trump takes on is a complete lie.

You're stuck in a binary world arguing inconsequential issues with people who aren't even present on this forum.  

Again, where was the coup? 
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Like trump has captured yours? I suppose it's just a giant coincidence that you parrot his language and takes on whatever issue he is trying to pump it. 

Also weird, did you see albanese with Biden? Weird, didn't you say there was a coup with biden? What is he doing as the president as the US still? I can't keep up. 

He's a lame duck.  If he's meeting Albo you know its nothing important.

Your accusation that I'm 'pumping' any issue Trump takes on is a complete lie.

You're stuck in a binary world arguing inconsequential issues with people who aren't even present on this forum.  

Again, where was the coup? 
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Lupi33 - 21 Sep 2024 2:46 PM
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Like trump has captured yours? I suppose it's just a giant coincidence that you parrot his language and takes on whatever issue he is trying to pump it. 

Also weird, did you see albanese with Biden? Weird, didn't you say there was a coup with biden? What is he doing as the president as the US still? I can't keep up. 

He's a lame duck.  If he's meeting Albo you know its nothing important.

Your accusation that I'm 'pumping' any issue Trump takes on is a complete lie.

You're stuck in a binary world arguing inconsequential issues with people who aren't even present on this forum.  

Again, where was the coup? 
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Not sure why that posted 4 times - maybe it was the deep state malfunction 
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Looks like the warrior who threatened hell against Brazil etc has completely folded lol 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/21/elon-musk-backs-down-in-his-fight-with-brazilian-judges-to-restore-x



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tsf - 22 Sep 2024 10:47 AM
Not sure why that posted 4 times - maybe it was the deep state malfunction 

maybe it was you hammering your peripherals
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Lupi33 - 22 Sep 2024 4:16 PM
tsf - 22 Sep 2024 10:47 AM
Not sure why that posted 4 times - maybe it was the deep state malfunction 

maybe it was you hammering your peripherals

Pardon me if I missed it, I'm currently in Sardinia, are we any closer to finding out the primary objection of the proposed bill?

Has Sky News provided an update?


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Munrubenmuz - 22 Sep 2024 4:28 PM
Lupi33 - 22 Sep 2024 4:16 PM

Pardon me if I missed it, I'm currently in Sardinia, are we any closer to finding out the primary objection of the proposed bill?

Has Sky News provided an update?

I suggest perhaps you should attend some remedial primary school learning classes for adults where they teach comprehension skills.

Given I've already stated my doubts, the onus is actually on people of your ilk to convince me why any new legislation is needed, not the other way around.
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tsf - 21 Sep 2024 12:34 PM
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Like trump has captured yours? I suppose it's just a giant coincidence that you parrot his language and takes on whatever issue he is trying to pump it. 

Also weird, did you see albanese with Biden? Weird, didn't you say there was a coup with biden? What is he doing as the president as the US still? I can't keep up. 

Since you're following him closely, is Trump talking about Australia's misinformation bill? 
I find this highly unlikely.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 13 Sep 2024 2:40 PM
OMFG I just realised why jonsmith stopped posting. hAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH I'm a  fool.... Sorry Lupi carry on. 

hahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

jonsmith was at least (usually) attempting to be a polite about things (if not condescending)

It's nice to be missed. Warm fuzzy feelings ... even though they misspell the name johnsmith lower case.

Regarding this misinformation Bill, look at all the evidence that has poured out about the dangers of the MRNA technology. Governments, during the pandemic, classed this as misinformation solely because it would deter people from getting vaccinated. Remember: there's tons of people who now have regretted taking the MRNA vaccines, but there are no people who regret not getting vaxed.

In a science-driven society, false information is challenged by facts and evidence. Whereas, in a totalitarian society, information that goes against the ruling party is branded as "misinformation" and censored. To the extent you cannot see that, will influence you to vote for the political party that has your worldview.

For me, I only distinguish between true information AND false information. All this nonsense of mis-, dis- information, it's all Pravda Soviet CCCP language.
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NicCarBel - 13 Sep 2024 9:08 PM

 but there are no people who regret not getting vaxed.

Hard to have regret when you're 6 feet under. 

There were 1,219,487 covid deaths in the USA alone. 2021-22, 10 times more unvaccinated people died. I reckon there would be a few regrets there if they could
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