The Greatest Little Club on Earth - 17/10/2024


The Greatest Little Club on Earth - 17/10/2024

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numklpkgulftumch - 10 Oct 2024 11:13 AM
huddo - 9 Oct 2024 11:53 PM

No idea, but they'd be 20 years old as well

Please tell the story, and explain it's relevance

Long story short, 45 years ago the NSL season finished with South Melbourne 3 points below Sydney Olympic on the table... and despite this Sydney Olympic were relegated to the NSW state leagues as prior (or during the league I wasnt old enough to have the foggiest) it was decided the NSL had too many NSW teams so the lowest finishing one had to go.... 

nearly 5 decades later it is used as a "gottcha" by some to show that those pushing for promotion and relegation in this country after being apartheided out of the top division for 20 years should just shut the fark up because we are dodgy wogs and don't belong in this country in the first place. or something like that. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 10 Oct 2024 3:01 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 10 Oct 2024 11:13 AM
huddo - 9 Oct 2024 11:53 PM

No idea, but they'd be 20 years old as well

Please tell the story, and explain it's relevance

Long story short, 45 years ago the NSL season finished with South Melbourne 3 points below Sydney Olympic on the table... and despite this Sydney Olympic were relegated to the NSW state leagues as prior (or during the league I wasnt old enough to have the foggiest) it was decided the NSL had too many NSW teams so the lowest finishing one had to go.... 

nearly 5 decades later it is used as a "gottcha" by some to show that those pushing for promotion and relegation in this country after being apartheided out of the top division for 20 years should just shut the fark up because we are dodgy wogs and don't belong in this country in the first place. or something like that. 

It's more about pushing the idea that P&R has never existed in this country in a true sense, and any one pointing out the merit of the Mariners as a force based on the Non-existence of P&R in the Aleague, need only look at the knock on effects to SM not being relegated in '79.

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huddo - 10 Oct 2024 5:44 PM
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numklpkgulftumch - 10 Oct 2024 11:13 AM
huddo - 9 Oct 2024 11:53 PM

No idea, but they'd be 20 years old as well

Please tell the story, and explain it's relevance

Long story short, 45 years ago the NSL season finished with South Melbourne 3 points below Sydney Olympic on the table... and despite this Sydney Olympic were relegated to the NSW state leagues as prior (or during the league I wasnt old enough to have the foggiest) it was decided the NSL had too many NSW teams so the lowest finishing one had to go.... 

nearly 5 decades later it is used as a "gottcha" by some to show that those pushing for promotion and relegation in this country after being apartheided out of the top division for 20 years should just shut the fark up because we are dodgy wogs and don't belong in this country in the first place. or something like that. 

It's more about pushing the idea that P&R has never existed in this country in a true sense, and any one pointing out the merit of the Mariners as a force based on the Non-existence of P&R in the Aleague, need only look at the knock on effects to SM not being relegated in '79.

a national football competition never existed in this country until 1977 either... doesn't change the fact that P and R is needed to create a true football ecosystem though... 


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huddo - 10 Oct 2024 5:44 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 10 Oct 2024 3:01 PM

It's more about pushing the idea that P&R has never existed in this country in a true sense, and any one pointing out the merit of the Mariners as a force based on the Non-existence of P&R in the Aleague, need only look at the knock on effects to SM not being relegated in '79.

I'd say claiming the 'Greatest little club on Earth' compares their efforts with the rest of the planet, not any past domestic competitions

What next ?  "World Champions, the Brisbane Lions" doco
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numklpkgulftumch - 11 Oct 2024 11:09 AM
huddo - 10 Oct 2024 5:44 PM

I'd say claiming the 'Greatest little club on Earth' compares their efforts with the rest of the planet, not any past domestic competitions

What next ?  "World Champions, the Brisbane Lions" doco

Oh, do fuck off with your constant negativity.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 11 Oct 2024 11:14 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 11 Oct 2024 11:09 AM

Oh, do fuck off with your constant negativity.

Oh, do fuck off with your constant sectarianism.
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Why can't we ever stick to the topic 
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Melbcityguy - 11 Oct 2024 11:45 AM
Why can't we ever stick to the topic 

What was the topic again, documentaries about greatest clubs.... ah thats right, here you go MCG, just for you :P



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Melbcityguy - 11 Oct 2024 11:45 AM
Why can't we ever stick to the topic 

Because when people obsess with an issue it finds itself into every topic.... you could start a conversation about  the differences between apples and oranges and people who  obsess on any topic will find a way to mention apples are better than oranges .

Twas in the mid 90's, a guy at work was so much into AFL and trying every day to convert us mostly RL but some Football folk to turning from the dark side as he saw it to the true enlightenment..... so we ran a book that we could start a topic on anything and how long it would take him to find an AFL example.... he never failed whether it was NASA and the Space Shuttle  or Italian bread making.... 
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tsf - 10 Oct 2024 1:43 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 10 Oct 2024 11:13 AM

I think he is alluding to the fact that many who want P/R have fought against it in the past for their own benefit and that it's all swings and roundabouts....but that's just how I took it. 

P/R is where it is at. If your club goes down and no one supports it when they need it and they fold, oh well. I guess they weren't that strong of a club. 

Tough times make resilient clubs. Many of the weak clubs folded, others adapted. 

CCM's adversity it relative to the sporting franchise landscape.


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Because when people obsess with an issue it finds itself into every topic.... you could start a conversation about  the differences between apples and oranges and people who  obsess on any topic will find a way to mention apples are better than oranges .

Twas in the mid 90's, a guy at work was so much into AFL and trying every day to convert us mostly RL but some Football folk to turning from the dark side as he saw it to the true enlightenment..... so we ran a book that we could start a topic on anything and how long it would take him to find an AFL example.... he never failed whether it was NASA and the Space Shuttle  or Italian bread making.... 

Mate, you should be so proud of your club Mid, amazing what they have achieved with such a tight budget & the Socceroos you have produced too.

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TheSelectFew - 11 Oct 2024 1:53 PM
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CCM's adversity it relative to the sporting franchise landscape.

I would argue we have had in one form or another a franchise landscape since 1955..... 
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numklpkgulftumch - 11 Oct 2024 11:42 AM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 11 Oct 2024 11:14 AM

Oh, do fuck off with your constant sectarianism.

Show me an example.
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Why can't we ever stick to the topic 

Because when people obsess with an issue it finds itself into every topic.... you could start a conversation about  the differences between apples and oranges and people who  obsess on any topic will find a way to mention apples are better than oranges .

Twas in the mid 90's, a guy at work was so much into AFL and trying every day to convert us mostly RL but some Football folk to turning from the dark side as he saw it to the true enlightenment..... so we ran a book that we could start a topic on anything and how long it would take him to find an AFL example.... he never failed whether it was NASA and the Space Shuttle  or Italian bread making.... 

Did your mate at work every bring up how successful the MLS is and how the only thing missing from the Aleague is poaching supporters from existing clubs?

People in glass houses ... something, something .....  Middie my boy :P


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Midfielder - 11 Oct 2024 2:36 PM
TheSelectFew - 11 Oct 2024 1:53 PM

I would argue we have had in one form or another a franchise landscape since 1955..... 

You could argue that until you are blue in the face, it still wouldn't make it true.
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TheSelectFew - 11 Oct 2024 1:53 PM
tsf - 10 Oct 2024 1:43 PM

P/R is where it is at. If your club goes down and no one supports it when they need it and they fold, oh well. I guess they weren't that strong of a club. 

Tough times make resilient clubs. Many of the weak clubs folded, others adapted

CCM's adversity it relative to the sporting franchise landscape.

Many weak clubs whine & whine too!!!!

The Mariners just battled on despite the tough times. Most people 2nd fav club in Australia.

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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 11 Oct 2024 3:04 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 11 Oct 2024 11:42 AM

Show me an example.

I'm not re-reading all your rubbish, but I thought I'd look at a couple and here's the first I came across.  Fairly typical



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numklpkgulftumch - 11 Oct 2024 5:13 PM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 11 Oct 2024 3:04 PM

I'm not re-reading all your rubbish, but I thought I'd look at a couple and here's the first I came across.  Fairly typical



Where is the sectarianism there ?
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numklpkgulftumch, are you trying to reference sectionalism?
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