Anyone know Why PG stopped turning up at JALSC, Sage was singing it's praises I thought ?

Glory a VERY light in the CB area.

Only Thwaite is recognised in that area, with Panteledis a serviceable CB (he did play there with gusto the season before last). Clisby is the backup but only really just out of his nappies.

Pants will miss games through suspension and Thwaite will be missing at times on international duty, so that just leaves Glory very thin at the back.

Would want a key CB signing before tying up Garcia (which I feel we will get, just negotiations stalling his signing but there should be plenty of cap space left)

Phew, back on the forum again. First time in a couple of years now that the GB forum is down. Good to see the Glory thread nice and active - I'm thinking largely due to the forum down.

What I would pick:

--------------Vukovic-------------
Risdon --- Pants --- Thwaite --- Jamieson
----------Burns --- McGarry-----------
Nagai ------ Maclaren ------ Sciola
-------------Smeltz---------------

Bench:
Duncan
Clisby
R. Edwards
De Silva

Bit hard to judge Maclaren and R. Edwards as we haven't seen them properly yet.

We definitely need another quality CB. Happy if we use a foreign spot for it to get someone of the Zvansvijk mould would be good.

Bring on the A-League season!

Welcome back mate. The traffic is also due to a bunch of us new guys on here who post a fair bit. But this particular thread has been very active since Edwards came in.
I like the look of that line up too. Nagai and Risdon will be fantastic together!
With that CB spot, a few ofus have floated the idea of Adrian Madaschi, as he's both a West Aussie, and off contract soon. Either he or a VISA defender with a touch of class would be great!

Definitely Adrian Madaschi/Visa CB would be perfect. I was hoping we would get Madashci before he had that short stint at Heart. Would be a great addition.

Will be interesting to see if we have Garcia as we have so many wingers/attacking mids now. Sidnei, Nagai, R. Edwards, Harold, Maclaren, De Silva and Dodd when fit - that's 7 players to fill 3 spots across the attacking third (2 wings and attacking central mid).

Garcia can also fill the void if we need a striker, but one would assume if Garcia is signed he would be a certain starter

I don't think any of the new players are as cover for Dodd or they wouldn't be mentioned as signings or for "one season".

I have no idea who the other guy we were meant to have signed as IR but never mentioned. Only one that springs to mind is Trent Mclenahan early on in the season I think.

With the current squad, my 4-2-3-1 depth chart/line up would be:

----------------Vukovic/Duncun-------------
Risdon/Davies---Pants/Clisby---Thwaite---Jamieson/Woodcock
--------Burns--- O'Neill/C.Edwards-----------
Harold/Zahra------McGarry/De Silva------Nagai/Sciola
-------------Smeltz/Makeche---------------

Maclaren/R.Edwards/Cernak to fill in spots in the front 4 as needed.

I think there's definitely value to our squad in signing Garcia - he'd probably be a better option in the AM role behind Smeltz than any of McGarry, Maclaren, Harold, Nagai or Sidnei... obviously Da Silva is the great hope there but I doubt he'll be starting every week, and when Da Silva does start Garcia can still be played as a winger or even up front as an alternative to Smeltz.

As for CBs, I know Madaschi is the 'local' but I definitely think we could do better with the other Aussies who are being floated as possible targets (Kisnorbo, Spiranovic, Bosnar) or a foreigner.

You could possibly argue for Kisnorbo to be classified as an Australian Marquee signing... although based on the current squad you'd think we could get him within the cap anyway.

Bosnar is one that I think could be really exciting - amazing free kick, proven over the long-term in top Asian leagues, and I think he could be sold on a move to the HAL on the basis that if he is performing in the *same league* as Milligan, North and Thwaite he could push himself into contention for a Socceroos spot.

Bosnar is now off the table lol.

I dont think Sage has given any inclination that he wants to have another Marquee.

Garcia is just wishful thinking for Glory at this stage.

The way the Garcia scenario has dragged on, including it being suggested he snubbed an under-valued deal, seems to suggest the less likely Glory will secure his services? The squad is only a CB, utilised via VISA or not, and perhaps Garcia, short of being filled?

Any longer and the recruits will only be entering the team very late into the pre-season. In Garcia's case that may not be such a big deal, but with the CB perhaps it could be, especially if they are from overseas and haven't played football for a while?

It's interesting, Sidnei has been trialled and signed recently. I know that is one player, but surprised in a way just the one. Edwards COULD also be trialling a VISA player/s for that CB possie/cover?

I guess, in the end, we don't know Edwards' plans - We all presume he looks for an experienced CB, but whether he's monitoring an Aussie Abroad like Madaschi, Kisnorbo or the like, still negotiating to bring over a VISA, or even looking for cover elsewhere - obviously we can't know till something is announced.

BTW Garcia is handy as he can play/fill a few positions. He's also a proven goalscorer in this league. With Smeltz needing pressure on his place and potentially in his last season, Garcia could be his rival for upfront, aswell as an option behind in McGarry's possie. But he ALSO could be an option wide, SHOULD that be required. Though on that front Glory now has Nagai and Sidnei, but with inevitable injuries and absences, it's helpful.

In the end though, given the options, Garcia not being signed is not so bad - means much more opportunity for young blokes like Harold, De Silva, Zahra and MacLaren!

Edited by GloryPerth: 19/7/2013 12:31:19 AM

Hello all again,

Here is a link to the published article: http://www.stretfordendarising.com/history/2013/07/18/millers-journey-down-under/

Cheers

We need defensive cover first and foremost. Then we can cover Dodd with an IR...if needed. Then there's the NYL contract...if needed.

The only extra signing I see Perth Glory doing from here is another defender. That is all.

We need defensive cover first and foremost. Then we can cover Dodd with an IR...if needed. Then there's the NYL contract...if needed.

The only extra signing I see Perth Glory doing from here is another defender. That is all.

Yeah, giving it further consideration, the need for Garcia was put paid when we signed MacLaren, re-signed Nagai and finally, signed on Sidnei.

There are enough options up there and the flexibility in that half means that a variety of players can fill a variety of positions if need be.

No more CBs means Edwards also has faith in young Clisby, which is good to see. It will be a pairing of Thwaite and Panta, but Clisby seems next in line and also, I see Panta's possie esp as far from secure. There are more young CBs like Ryan Lowry in the NYL that could be called in, should the need arise. Though hopefully we don't see the injury/absentee crisis at CB that Glory has seen past few seasons. Given Glory's badluck in this area, it would be relieving to see the last spot used there, especially given only the 3 recognised CBs in the squad atm.

What's the feeling that the IR could be a defender? Though on that I'm not sure, as we've seen IR players come in who are not the same possie as those they filling in for, before and IIRC FFA sought to crack down on that?

Though goodness knows Glory don't need any more players in Dodd's area of the park!

And on that NYL contract (BTW This isn't one of those 12 NYL team contracts (That widens the squad to 35), or is it?), just quickly browsing the list on Wikipedia (Probably outdated/wrong), but I presume a defender will come into the equation there, seeings the NYL squad may be a bit short there? And dual benefit of strengthening the wider squad's CB stocks.

Edited by GloryPerth: 19/7/2013 10:00:13 AM

I'll be very disappointed if Glory don't manage to bring in Garcia... I know we have plenty of options in those high midfield positions, but when you look at the names (Sidnei, Nagai, Da Silva, Maclaren and Harold) I don't think you have anyone who you can fall back on as a proven HAL performer who knows the league and can be 100% relied on through the rigours of a full season. There's definitely plenty of talent to get excited about, but I think Garcia offers that little bit of quality that you can trust. Very much like what Dodd has given us since joining (although I'd say Garcia is a better player than Dodd).

And has been pointed out, Garcia would also be someone to push Smeltz and give us a CF again who can stand up and dominate a tough HAL game... quick young forwards are often found out at senior level and this owuld be a risk for any of Maclaren, Nagai and Harold at the top this year for us.


I'd also be very disappointed to not pick a CB up. None of O'Neill, Pantelidis and Clisby fill me with a *lot* of confidence. I've always thought, mind you, that Burns could be a decent CB in a modern 4-2-3-1 possession-based formation. Wonder if Ali will be secretly looking to this?

Always thought he was a bit too short for a CB but he's only 4cm shorter than Pantelidis, so might just work.

The longer Garcia does not sign for the Heart the more I think he's agreed to the Glory and it's just the terms of the contract that need tweaking.

Might be the only Glory support who thinks this, but I just don't really want Garcia. Da Silva will be used at hone a lot, and there are more than enough other decent midfield players to find something that works for the away games. CB if anything is what we might need.

Just by looking at our squad, I noticed we now only have 5 players over the age of 30. Smeltz, Thwaite, Burns, Mcgarry and Dodd. All of whom are very good anyway.

Is anyone able to have the time to work out the average age of our squad now. The Ali Edwards impact of a younger squad has already taking shape.

The average age of the squad under Fergie and the average age of the squad under Ali will be very interesting to see

Last season, the average age of our starting 11 was the oldest in the A-League (by 1 day over Wellington).
http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_PastSeasons2012.html#SquadAges

Season before that we were the 2nd oldest, behind Wellington
http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_PastSeasons2011.html

In fact, you need to go all the way back to the 2008/09 season to find a season where our average age was under 28 years.
http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_PastSeasons2008.html#SquadAges

Dodd? Really? :lol:

I for one am very excited that we never have to see him in purple again :lol: he was poor in his last year at Adelaide and should never been signed in the first place, and certainly not on 200K per year on a 2+1 year deal! At least he won't play this season, and we can spend that cash on someone else!

--------------Vukovic-------------
Risdon --- Pants --- Thwaite --- Jamieson
----------Burns --- McGarry-----------
Nagai ------ O'Neill------ Sciola
-------------Smeltz---------------

Average age = 27.6!

Interesting Smeltz and Cernack not travelling to S.A, both recovering from injury. I would have though that Cernack would need a big preseason to be any chance of making the team.

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/perthglory/news-display/edwards-relishes-republic-return/70971

Good to see Maclaren impressing in his first few sessions since arriving. It will be interesting to see if all these young lads can produce some combinations.

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/perthglory/news-display/maclaren-firing-on-all-cylinders/70912

Forgot you guys had Cernak as well, where the hell is he going to fit?

Dunno how Cernak will go, he was referred to as "long term injured"??

But geez from that article about Seth Efrica trip, Edwards' communication skills TOWER over Fergie's. And the level of cooperation sounds great too with Naven, Miller and Glory old by D'Avray!

Dodd was good in patches last year. Had some very good games, but he's getting old and losing his pace. Not a bad player, but not a starter.

Having said that, everyone I know who has met him has said he's an absolutely terrific guy.

Burns at CB = fail. Was tried once at the depth of the injury crisis and he was caught out of position for a goal conceded. Glory already have one converted midfielder as a CB - Pantalidis, they shouldn't be going 'second best' for another. Especially as the team values Burns more, gets the best out of him, in his natural DM possie, screening infront.

Glory is definitely better off having a 4th CB for squad balance, just like all teams - Glory is no different. The squad has 'technically' not filled the void since Bas Van Den Brink's departure. No squad in the world can go a season with only three CBs unless there are other defenders capable in that role and Glory would neither want Jamieson nor Risdon at CB and again, like Burns, Glory would then weakening their strength elsewhere with sub-par fill ins in the possie of need.

Even IF it's just a state league promotee, Glory NEED a FT CB in the rotation or else lessons have been failed to be learned from the previous 2-3 seasons of 'CB Crisis' after 'CB Crisis'!



This. That's pretty much the rotation, most likely line up... Except perhaps tweak CM. I can't see Cameron Edwards starting, not immediately? IMHO It's more likely a DM partnership of Burns-McGarry, harking back to season before? That would add more muscle and experience, covering the back half. That also leaves any number of capable players in the squad to fill AM, with IMHO De Silva being a hot chance, though if he's fit, Cernak would be a strong chance to start. Harold, MacLaren or even Ryan Edwards could be tried there too. Though more likely, Scoila in there, then Harold/R. Edwards switched wide?

Unless we DO get Garcia, then he = shoe in for AM, with McGarry definitely alongside Burns. And as we discussed, Garcia would be an option upfront too.

----------------Vukovic/Duncan-------------
Risdon/Davies---Pants/Clisby---Thwaite---Jamieson/Woodcock
--------------Burns--- McGarry/[size=3]C.Edwards/O'Neill/R.Edwards[/size]-----------
Harold/Nagai/R. Edwards/Zahra------Sciola/Cernak/De Silva/MacLaren------Nagai/Scoila/Zahra/Harold
---------------Smeltz/MacLaren/Makeche/Harold---------------

Again, McGarry at DM, because with both Miller AND Cordoba gone, Glory have lost alot at DM, so require a bit more quality there. Unless Cameron or O'Neill are up to the physical demands there, I can't see them starting early.

It's also 'less of a risk' having youth/less muscle/less exp on the wings, than it is in the spine, especially the back half. So a three behind Smeltz of Nagai LW, Sciola behind and any of the young blokes RW seems best scenario, IF we NEED McGarry to partner Burns, as I believe. Scoila LW, De Silva behind and Nagai RW could be potentially the most dangerous combo though!

Edited by GloryPerth: 20/7/2013 07:38:10 AM

this from Melb Heart forum....

It now looks extremely unlikely that Garcia would sign for Perth. Perth's coach, Alistair Edwards, said this week "we're extremely happy with our squad so we're not looking to sign anyone else, but you never say never".

Also, a West Australian sports journalist (Shayne Hope, who writes for The West Australian) tweeted on Wednesday, regarding Garcia possibly signing with Perth, that "Garcia isn't happening".

As a Fergie signing, the NYL team with a chance of left right out. Will be gone next season IMO, probably Indonesia.

But he hasn't for Heart yet, has he. :-"

Stolen!

That's quite handy there petszk, cheers.


On the CB topic, someone mentioned state league players... I'm not sure where James Isaia has been playing lately but he trialed with the Glory last year(?) and I'm fairly sure he's been used both in central midfield and central defence. If I'm honest though and had to pick our best state league central defender who is NOT an import, I'd be plumping for Clisby anyway...

Just been browsing tbitm's (sp) latest 'Membership Numbers' thread for this upcoming 13/14 season and with nib stadium redevelopment now complete and restrictions on capacity and membership long since lifted, I wonder what Glory's 'seemingly mysterious' membership numbers are like, or will be like?

Infact checking the Membership section of the official club site, via FFA, the section is relatively scant, bare of information, compared to other clubs who even have dedicated websites for their Membership section! Let alone projected targets and regular news updates when they reach certain membership marks/milestones (Like 5k?).

I can only guesstimate that Glory are tracking somewhere between 3-4k at present, if not a little more?

I plan to get a small scale membership for a couple games, but I need to see my schedule/future this semester, esp in regards to work, which is often on a w/e. There was that 'Associate Membership' a couple seasons ago, so hope to get something like that. When/if I do, I'll ask them over the phone where our member total is at then.

Edit: Going by last season, it seems Glory doesn't kick of their 'Membership Campaign' till later, like well into August??! Certainly seems so at the moment, as relative to other clubs, the on-line site/s anyway seems all but dormant on the membership front, no news or even articles to advertise for it - where other clubs have had a constant feed of little items promoting it with 'players on the phones' etc...

What's with the, I suppose 'lethargy'/absence of news on that front, over here? Or it's just the website/s (Official, FB & Twitter) are soo poor for news and ideas, or reflecting that news/work, relative to the others?

Edited by GloryPerth: 24/7/2013 05:01:23 AM