Prepare yourselves for bad news this week, I wouldn't be surprised if A Edwards is gone.

Haven't seen or heard anything of the Burns side of the issue yet, so do look forward to hearing exactly what his side of it is.
And for all the clichés he uses, I'm expecting to hear about the Club being bigger than the individual.

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If that's the case, Glory can go fuck themselves.

The team has been playing well with youth and heading in the right direction.

Doing this will put the club back to square one and another season written off.

All because Sage's poker partner gets upset and throws his toys out of the pram.

Very poor form by him and the owner if this transpires.

Sage should expect a spectator backlash at the next game if this is the outcome.



Edited by hotrod: 15/12/2013 04:34:23 PM

So what was the "to be sorted by close of business Monday" result?

Some reports suggesting fines for Edwards and Burns, and something for Danny for some comment made.
If that is the case, then nothing is resolved because the issues will still simmer away.

I for one am totally disillusioned by it all.
We're going to have our ups and downs playing younger guys, but our first 20 minutes against the Kiwis was the best Glory passing and football I've seen from them for at least 5 years. That seems to have all been put at risk now, and have no idea what we'll now get served up on Sunday.
If it meant no Burns, McGarry, Thwaites and Vukovic, so be it.
Maybe if Burns was the triple championship captain, multiple golden boot winner, etc, he may feel hard done by, but he's just been a reasonable leader and servant of the club who is now in the twilight of his career.
God only knows what Gallas thinks of what he's stepped into.

The club doesn't even seem to know, an article came out on The West, saying 4 people have been fined (Edwards, Naven, Burns and Vukovic) then the PG twitter says that is not true, only for Sage to say it is.

Sage said he preferred for it to be resolved today, but the club twitter said it is expecting for it to be done tomorrow.

Jason Brewer is hard at work, I can tell because he's been absent from Twitter which is not like him;)

If someone does go, what kind of scenes are we expecting at the game?

Did we see the same game? Because Maclaren, REdwards and CEdwards were largely rubbish. CEdwards was the better of the three but only when he had space in front. Thwaite, Sidnei, Harold, Makeche, Davis, Woodcock and McGarry were all good or decent. Clisby was acceptable.

Cameron came on at 1/2 time for DDS and was very good. He was very unlucky to be dropped to the bench versus Victory, certainly deserved to start next to McGarry over Ryan. Cameron was also very good against CCM a couple of weeks before. Ryan started the year well but his form has dropped a bit, but he hasn't been our worst player. The problem is that our midfield hasn't been that good all year. McGarry has been pretty poor this year, Burns has been ok as has REdwards. Cam needs to assert himself more in games but he clearly looks to be our best passer. Other then the last 30 minutes against Phoenix McGarry was poor and has been most of the year

Look, I think CEdwards has been pretty good or even excellent when he has had a bit of space. Pressured on the ball though he's looked like he's scared to have it. Whether that's AWdwards isn't doing his job as coach, the kid isn't good enough or he has taken a confidence hit in the last few weeks with the dressing room tension, I'm not sure.

Really needs to improve when pressured to keep getting the same amount of game time IMHO, and looking scared to have the ball is an awful look too.

Did we see the same game? Because Maclaren, REdwards and CEdwards were largely rubbish. CEdwards was the better of the three but only when he had space in front. Thwaite, Sidnei, Harold, Makeche, Davis, Woodcock and McGarry were all good or decent. Clisby was acceptable.

I agree with Shangar - the first 30 minutes of that match saw the Glory playing better than I've seen them play in a long time. :d
Then they switched off. :?
Then they switched on again. :d

Also Sage has come out saying that Burns was representing a number of players. It's quite amusing really. Three weeks or so ago Edwards had a chat with Burns regarding his future, the 3 weeks ago pre-match Zwaanswijk mentions that players are unhappy at glory. Where do you think he gets his info from?? Most likely Burns old mate Sterjovski! McGarry was dropped to the bench for the Mariners match, and Burns didn't say boo. The squad was named mid last week, Zahra was dropped all together. Still nothing from Burns. Burns is an unused sub in his return match and boom it's world war 3.

Do the player he is said to represent notice the agenda Burns is driven by. Were they aware of the conversation between Ali and Burns regarding his future or lack of. How many would back him if he was shown the door after they see that he is really worried about his own future rather than the direction the football club is heading? I have been a big Burns supporter, but you would have to be blind not to see what is going on here.

Also if Thwaite is behind Burns he is a joke. he opened his mouth about the lack of movement on contract talks for Bas last year and was flippant towards the crowd at one of the home games. When asked how it felt to captain all these talented kids at Perth after the Phoenix game, he answered I did it at Gold Coast why not here. Then followed that up during the week with a the future is bright article (link below) yet he is concerned of the direction the club is heading.

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/perthglory/news-display/MICHAEL-THWAITE-IT-LOOKS-GOOD-FOR-THE-FUTURE/80156

The only thing you could be forgetting is that there was discontent at the start of the season. Edwards boys rumoured to get the sponsored cars and a few other things. There was also Ljubo leaving which could have been either a clash with Edwards or the 'senior' playing group. There were other grumbles before the season ever kicked off that I don't 100% remember either. Will do a search later today for the details.

Either way I don't think it's just down to Burns not being resigned.

roar brisbane and brisbane ro are two of the biggest trolls on this forum

roar brisbane and brisbane ro are two of the biggest trolls on this forum

A-League tactics: Perth's frustration game

ames Troisi (right) and Steven McGarry compete for the ball. Photograph: David Crosling/AAP Image
Amid all the discussions of the rift between captain Jacob Burns, senior players and manager Alistair Edwards, the nature of Perth Glory’s two most recent away matches has been all but forgotten. With the post-match dissections focused on the major issue in question, the football itself, and tactics deployed, has become almost an afterthought. Perth, a team which Edwards said would look to play “football, not fight ball”, have twice in succession resorted to reactive structures to counter opposition threats away from home, as opposed to imposing their passing style on the home side (although they did face the almost unstoppable Brisbane Roar and the always dangerous Melbourne Victory).


Perhaps the moment that turned Newcastle Jets’ season around was their 2-2 draw against Central Coast Mariners. In that game, coach Gary van Egmond matched up his sides 4-3-3 with the Mariners’ 4-2-3-1 and looked to play a combative, high energy/pressing, counter-attacking style. When the Mariners switched to a 4-4-2 diamond, Van Egmond responded by moving to a 3-4-3. The Mariners scored in the confusion of the change but it was so nearly a snatched win against the odds.

Perhaps Edwards was taking inspiration from Van Egmond’s approach when Perth travelled to Brisbane in Round 8. Surprising everyone, Perth played a 3-4-1-2 formation, which is almost unheard of in the A-League, especially considering only Wellington Phoenix and Victory play from a base which isn’t a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1.

The 3-4-1-2 divided opinion, and the commentators for that match spoke of Perth’s “headless chicken” look. While there was certainly an element of that, realistically and somewhat pragmatically, Perth played to frustrate Brisbane and looked to reduce the spaces for Brisbane’s individual talent.

Brisbane’s ability to manipulate space (through player rotation) and for individuals to find space (Besart Berisha’s goal was a prime example) made the difference in the match, but the premise of Perth’s approach was creative and caught Brisbane off guard, particularly in the first half.



When Perth played Melbourne Victory, in Melbourne, in the elimination final last season, they frustrated Victory and only roll of the dice changes by Ange Postecoglou, a missed penalty and some controversial refereeing decisions prevented them from advancing to the semi-final. For that match, Victory played with a lone striker/false nine in Archie Thompson, and Perth’s midfield duo of Jacob Burns and Matias Cordoba worked well to prevent passes through the middle of the park into Thompson’s feet.

Victory have since returned to their ‘Dual 10’ system, which required a different defensive approach from Perth. The front two of Jamie Maclaren and Ndumba Makeche worked back to keep a close eye on Victory’s midfield duo of Leigh Broxham and Mark Milligan, whilst Steven McGarry and Ryan Edwards marked James Troisi and Mitch Nichols.

This method of matching up in midfield left Victory’s two centre-backs free, and Pablo Contreras (91) and Adrian Leijer (82) were the game's top passers and also combined the most frequently (30 times). As a result of Perth’s strikers dropping back into midfield, their counter attacks were less effective, and unlike in the elimination final, where Ryo Nagai scored an early goal, Perth did not have anything to defend and offered little in going for the match.

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Such are the fine margins in football, had Perth come away with two draws from their travels (i.e. had Berisha not been, well, Berisha, and had Ryan Edwards finished his glorious opportunity against Melbourne), then the maturity and inventiveness shown by Edwards and his squad would have warranted praise. Dealing with injuries and suspensions, Edwards has maintained his staunch faith in the younger players, for which he deserves credit. However their inability to construct a regular, consistent threat on the counter attack, and to create clear goal-scoring opportunities has made it hard to see them coming away with anything but a point.

Perth’s next match will see them come up against another side which likes to monopolise possession of the ball – Adelaide United, but this time, Perth are at home. It will be no doubt be interesting to see how Edwards sets out his side to deal with such a scenario.