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AndyToddsElbow wrote:Smeltz himself said ready for next home game, so assume he'll be back then. Maybe Gallas too.
I too would like to see a CamEds/O'Brien midfield. Unlike Burns, Cam has some decent forum and can pass a ball. Not according to Burns when he's sitting on the bench. I'm quite happy (well not really ](*,) ) to put a line through this season and start again. We are not half way through and we will start to get player come back into the team. Plus we have the transfer window open and might be able to get one or two key positional players. Hey, maybe Cordoba might want back in???? [-o< Edited by hotrod: 4/1/2014 02:11:44 PM
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Benjo
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New club song released today [youtube]NUTGr5t3MoY[/youtube]
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Glory Recruit
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We have well and truly gone back to hoofball, I can't believe we're seeing it again.
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im listening to it online via the ABC granstand and their making it out like its a under 12's game is that true and was that over the line or not
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libertarian
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Glory_byford wrote:im listening to it online via the ABC granstand and their making it out like its a under 12's game is that true and was that over the line or not Frame by frame on Foxtel IQ, I think it was a goal. Commentators don't think so though.
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ahh well at least we get a little bit of luck
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37% possession and 7 shots on goal compared to Newcastle's 24.... Highway robbery
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Good to win, and following my doom and gloom prediction, I'll be taking a lot of the credit. No doubt the first thing we'll do to a winning team is change it to slot a few back in. And from all accounts, our Shots at Goal now total 20 in 3 weeks, so still a huge issue. Putting in Burns and Gallas may not increase that too much. (And another of our departed goal scorers has just scored - Liam Miller)
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=perth-glory-presser_1226795001197&vc=204That was our perfectly executed game plan? Fml. Edited by iridium1010: 4/1/2014 10:23:24 PM
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GloryTragic
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If that is the future of Perth Glory; god help us. WE were smashed in every statistic but the goal. Our best player was the keeper. Jesus wept that was humiliatingly bad. But we won, so expect more of it.
At least Jacob Burns wasn't there. After all, our superstar Captain would have changed things had he played. If he was not suspended; AGAIN. 27 game season and he misses three games for suspensions. That's more than 10% of the season. He's a real leader that lad......when he plays.
The light at the end of the tunnel is a super-train and its heading our way.....AGAIN!
Irony of ironies; both Edward's boys played.
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But apparently Jacob Burns is crap and without him Perth play much better... :-k
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Condemned666
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It doesn't have to be pretty glory fans
All you need to do in any sport is win by the barest minimum on the scoreboard, it doesn't matter how bad the other team makes you look
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Condemned666 wrote:It doesn't have to be pretty glory fans
All you need to do in any sport is win by the barest minimum on the scoreboard, it doesn't matter how bad the other team makes you look Sport is entertainment, there was nothing entertaining about that, nor is it gonna win us anything, I think Glory fans have seen enough of hoofball. Also if we want to attract people to come to our games or watch on TV, that is not gonna help it. Edited by iridium1010: 4/1/2014 11:17:33 PM
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Edited by iridium1010: 5/1/2014 12:12:00 AM
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GloryTragic wrote:At least Jacob Burns wasn't there. After all, our superstar Captain would have changed things had he played. If he was not suspended; AGAIN. 27 game season and he misses three games for suspensions. That's more than 10% of the season. He's a real leader that lad......when he plays. In a 27 game season it's shocking enough. But when it's 3 out of your first 13 games, action should be taken. But our club hides behind the glib 'passion for the club' excuse, and it's never him, but others, the linesman, the ref, his reputation doesn't give him a fair go, blah, blah, blah. Dear Club: We can not continue to play Burns and McGarry in the one team.
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A16Man wrote:But apparently Jacob Burns is crap and without him Perth play much better... :-k
Edited by A16Man: 4/1/2014 10:44:46 PM Just because we didn't play well today without him doesn't mean Burns isn't crap.
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Well looks like we might not be the only club to implode this season.
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GloryTragic
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A16Man wrote:But apparently Jacob Burns is crap and without him Perth play much better... :-k
Edited by A16Man: 4/1/2014 10:44:46 PM Not even Melbourne Heart would pay Jacob Burns for professional football. He is simply an enforcer, and a slow one at that. How can he be held up as an example to the younger players when he gets STUPID insane send offs? He then blames the referee for the send off. That's wonderful. That's perfect. It was even true this time. BUT he is still on the sideline for another week. Play O'Niel in his spot and see how much better we do. Remember, this Captain got the Coach sacked saying he was a poor man manager and favoured his sons......who both played under Kenny Lowe's side this weekend. WE played crap and we won; without Burns. So what do we need him for?
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hotrod
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GloryTragic wrote:
WE played crap and we won; without Burns. So what do we need him for?
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I missed the game, but some of the complaints echo from earlier in the season. It's a young defence to start with, so they naturally needed cover. You defend collectively too and hence, with our young team, playing away, especially weakened, we were especially pragmatic in parking the bus. The result was the aim and the result was the outcome.
Anyway, with the complaints echoing, one is Davies and the full backs - They are young, inexperienced and by many measures, in the deep end and 'fill ins' at best. Nobody, not even Edwards, expected that they'd be featuring most of the season, certainly not BOTH of them. Glory have gone from having two of the best fullbacks in the A-League in Risdon and Jamieson, to being amongst the weakest in that area. But to their credit they have held out well. But Davies' play on the ball reflects all the inexperience, indecision, lack of confidence and even technical ability that you could expect from a young Aussie player. Any sort of pressure and it's arguably best that they long it (Heck, look at the goal the Jets conceded to us, on the back of their own defensive mistake, playing out). Even when not under soo much pressure, longing it is the easy/poor man's way to relieve pressure on the player on the ball, keep the opposition defence moving and attempt to keep the tempo up. Maybe Jets were trying a higher line too, in their possession and 60% possession likely suggested this, so hence good old fashioned counter attack with the quick Harold pushing the offside trap.
We can only have faith that the change in coaching regimes and the ever changing squad, skewing younger with every senior absence, is having to slant to results orientated football at cost of better football, to avoid the season being a competitive write off and staying in the finals. Unfortunately you can't have it all and perhaps once the regime is in a bit longer, results going our way, confidence growing for all, the team and it's young players can settle further, be more comfortable on the ball and begin to really flower. Especially in combination with returning veterans like Gallas and others. Hopefully Danny De Silva and others came come to more prominence too.
There's only soo long you can hide behind the 'potential' tag but at the moment, our young boys are having to grow up fast, but same time, they will still, understandably, need time in order to 'grow up' 'properly'. And with that will come more confidence and consistency.
Edwards was cut short in his project, a bit less than a season into a multi-season, atleast three season, project in developing this youngish skewed squad up. It was all at risk of another revolution, restarting the whole thing, but the club through the CEO and the interim appointment, Lowe, have vowed to continue Edwards' project and again this process will take some time and patience will be needed.
Hopefully Glory can recruit some more quality in the spine to compliment this young team, in the off season, including a better/fitter/more available striker upfront than Smeltz and some more, overdue, quality in that CM/AM area to replace the void still left by Miller, Sikora or the like. Probably some better quality 'steel' to replace Burns too!
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For those who have caught more of Glory's games this season - what do we make of Nagai, thus far? He hasn't seemed to have lit things up as much as he did back end of last, but then again we aren't the side we were then, with especially Miller and Cordoba gone from the spine?
He's only a loan signing, though we fought hard to have him the full season, rather than return next month. But will we be sorry to see him leave, when he inevitably does?
I get the strong feeling he's become well replaceable now, especially given how well Sidnei has settled in - he could be replaced by another VISA or even, more likely, a player within this squad - Harold for instance is finally coming through and the likes of De Silva, Zahra, MacLaren and others are all well capable of playing out there and have even? Tying what I said before, perhaps his VISA spot could be better utilised for a player upfront on in the middle - though not that it's an either/or given we haven't maxxed our VISA quota at present! But IF Glory is to REALLY clear old some of this old, under-performing but expensive, deadwood, then it will definitely need to find some quality to replace Burns, McGarry, Smeltz and the like, but that quality can usually only be found via VISA talent and that MAY necessitate for us to max the 5 slots, especially with an injury-prone Marquee and Sidneu already as VISA's #1 and 2?!
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GloryPerth wrote:For those who have caught more of Glory's games this season - what do we make of Nagai, thus far? Gives the impression of having dropped off, but I don't think so. I think he is around about where he was before, but gets less service as Sidnei outdoes him one on one with defenders and is thus the preferred outlet. The squad players have also incrementally improved which gives the impression of bringing him back to the pack. The constant injuries haven't helped him, and I believe they are a big factor in him stagnating a bit.
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Best Marquee Evaaaaaaarrrrrrrr............... Gallas to miss another weekSeriously, anyone who thinks he'll be back next week, needs their head examined. On a brighter note, Risdon played for the NYL and scored!!! Gonna be rough on Davies to squeeze him out. I reckon he might be leaving next season (can't recall if he's on a 2 year contract though).
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I doubt Risdon will be rushed back, Davies has been OK enough that there is no sense risking Risdon aggravating the injury.
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Thanks Scoll, that seems a fair assessment of Nagai and that makes alot of sense. More of our rotation in that front third area has been utilised this season and more of them are having an impact now. The good thing is he was always only ever a loan signing and in a way his quality helps groom though those below him. They 'catching up' is a positive natural evolution and should mean the squad evolves out the need for a VISA player like he, in that part of the field. It SHOULDN'T need one out there, not with one being used on Sidnei on the other flank. That reduces Glory's VISA options elsewhere and at present Glory already sees a slight squad imbalance, especially in regards to quality elsewhere - notably upfront and in the middle. Hopefully this will be addressed in the off-season. hotrod wrote:Best Marquee Evaaaaaaarrrrrrrr............... Gallas to miss another weekSeriously, anyone who thinks he'll be back next week, needs their head examined. On a brighter note, Risdon played for the NYL and scored!!! Gonna be rough on Davies to squeeze him out. I reckon he might be leaving next season (can't recall if he's on a 2 year contract though). Scoll wrote:I doubt Risdon will be rushed back, Davies has been OK enough that there is no sense risking Risdon aggravating the injury. Either way, that's really good news and tbh when Risdon IS ready, which should be after 2-3 NYL games worth of fitness/match fitness, touch wood, then it would be natural he regains his place. The only way not is IF Davies raises his performances further, improves further, to somehow keep him out. But on feedback from you guys and generally, I think his contributions have been serviceable at best, which is good considering, but the likes of Risdon and Jamieson returning are a much needed return to quality there. But he won't be rushed back and considering when he signed, Davies would never have thought he'd see this much first team football with Glory, this soon, so I'm sure he'd be happy either way. He's had a great run of first team opportunity with the side! But it's better for the side and it's squad balance, that Risdon is back and we have more quality and competition at RB. It's a good thing all round that Davies has seen this much opportunity and experience and he should be a better for it, as a competitor for Risdon's position in the team, rather than just his deputy! :cool: Edited by GloryPerth: 7/1/2014 05:05:43 AM
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Heat wave forecast for Perth
Thankfully Glory are playing all their games at night so there wont be a need for a 1/2 hour timeout for drinks
For the eastern staters who complain about Perth not having daylight saving, daylight saving works better in cooler places, Perth is just too hot to have the sun out at 7.30pm when its still 35 degrees
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GloryPerth wrote:Thanks Scoll, that seems a fair assessment of Nagai and that makes alot of sense. More of our rotation in that front third area has been utilised this season and more of them are having an impact now. The good thing is he was always only ever a loan signing and in a way his quality helps groom though those below him. They 'catching up' is a positive natural evolution and should mean the squad evolves out the need for a VISA player like he, in that part of the field. It SHOULDN'T need one out there, not with one being used on Sidnei on the other flank. That reduces Glory's VISA options elsewhere and at present Glory already sees a slight squad imbalance, especially in regards to quality elsewhere - notably upfront and in the middle. Hopefully this will be addressed in the off-season. hotrod wrote:Best Marquee Evaaaaaaarrrrrrrr............... Gallas to miss another weekSeriously, anyone who thinks he'll be back next week, needs their head examined. On a brighter note, Risdon played for the NYL and scored!!! Gonna be rough on Davies to squeeze him out. I reckon he might be leaving next season (can't recall if he's on a 2 year contract though). Scoll wrote:I doubt Risdon will be rushed back, Davies has been OK enough that there is no sense risking Risdon aggravating the injury. Either way, that's really good news and tbh when Risdon IS ready, which should be after 2-3 NYL games worth of fitness/match fitness, touch wood, then it would be natural he regains his place. The only way not is IF Davies raises his performances further, improves further, to somehow keep him out. But on feedback from you guys and generally, I think his contributions have been serviceable at best, which is good considering, but the likes of Risdon and Jamieson returning are a much needed return to quality there. But he won't be rushed back and considering when he signed, Davies would never have thought he'd see this much first team football with Glory, this soon, so I'm sure he'd be happy either way. He's had a great run of first team opportunity with the side! But it's better for the side and it's squad balance, that Risdon is back and we have more quality and competition at RB. It's a good thing all round that Davies has seen this much opportunity and experience and he should be a better for it, as a competitor for Risdon's position in the team, rather than just his deputy! :cool: Edited by GloryPerth: 7/1/2014 05:05:43 AM To be honest I think that Davies has been great, every time Vuka claims the ball Davies heads for space and if used as the first option more often, would be much more efficient. Thwaite and Vuka piss fart around passing the ball to each other to much, by the time they pass it to Davies people are starting to close him down. I don't see why Thwaite has to be the first option for Vuka all the time, especially considering distribution is not his strong point.
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Condemned666 wrote:It doesn't have to be pretty glory fans
All you need to do in any sport is win by the barest minimum on the scoreboard, it doesn't matter how bad the other team makes you look Oh fuck off if it's all about the results then the football we've played the last three weeks has seen a return of only 1 win and that was because the other team couldn't put away their chances. That's 1/3 return so it's hardly something to be blase about. Like Hotrod said this season is a write off. Again. Which is so fucking annoying.
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No way is it unlucky on Davies to bring Risdon in. Sure he's looked ok, looked promising but definitely bring back an experienced, a-league level defender that we sorely need. Just like if the club get their finger out, we get an injury replacement for Jamieson, then play him. The young fullback have got their A-League experience for the season to continue their development, now play
As for Nagai he's been shit, let him go so we can get a VISA CM. I have no idea how this team has incrementally improved on last season for Nagai to back to the pack? He's shit, had one run of form last season after about three injuries, this season one good game. I don't really rate Zahra but I'd prefer him played before Nagai.
Hopefully we don't see Cernak again but who knows, it's Sage's mandate that everyone needs to play (otherwise he'll question Lowe's decisions and team selections.)
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