Shanagar
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[size=7]Heat forces Heart v Perth to later time[/size]
FFA has decided to delay the kick-off for today's Melbourne Heart v Perth Glory A-League match two hours, to 5pm, to protect the welfare of players in hot conditions in Albury.
And this is the Weatherzone forecast for Albury. Do you think I rejoice because it looks like the FFA are doing something. [size=7]NO[/size]
Next 12 hours in Albury 3pm - Mostly clear - 40°C 6pm - Mostly clear - 41°C
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Shanagar wrote:[size=7]Heat forces Heart v Perth to later time[/size]
FFA has decided to delay the kick-off for today's Melbourne Heart v Perth Glory A-League match two hours, to 5pm, to protect the welfare of players in hot conditions in Albury.
And this is the Weatherzone forecast for Albury. Do you think I rejoice because it looks like the FFA are doing something. [size=7]NO[/size]
Next 12 hours in Albury 3pm - Mostly clear - 40°C 6pm - Mostly clear - 41°C
Because of daylight savings it is really 4pm.It will be interesting if they still proceed and break their own guidelines.If someone gets seriously ill they will be liable for sure.
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hotrod
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Just hit 40 and WBGT of 30. Woohoo.
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Wonder what the WBGT will be at 5?
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hotrod
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My bet's on 31 give or take a few decimals.
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There's a late SW cool change, but not sure it will make it by 5pm.
The Vic-o weather changes are pretty quick once they come in, but that's probably more the case in Melb, rather than up north.
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Shanagar
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I think any cool change will be too late today. Yesterday it was still sitting above 37 at 7.30pm and can only expect it will be the same if not hotter at that time today.
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 Line up is out. I'm not looking forward to this game. The heat. And Burns and McGarry still in the starting 11. Looking forward to seeing Griffiths though.
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Begbie
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:Tony Sage is the longest serving A-League owner yet we are one of the least stable club.
5 Managers, 5 CEOs, 1 constant captain. Definitely a rose-tinted legacy. :lol:
We don't know of any other prospective owners who may or may not take over Glory, you can not say definitively there are none, why would they risk pissing off Sage by openly declaring interest now, when there's no sign (at least this season) of him wanting to throw in the towel? least stable? not sure how you work that out. Since Sage took full control we have had 3 permenant managers 1 resigned 2 sacked. Longevity in managers is not something that happenes much in the A-league though is it? Tony Popovic is the longest serving manager at a full 18 months. 2 CEO's in those years Paul Kelly and now Jason Brewer with Kelly serving for 3 years, is that not stable? The one Captain being appointed by all the coaches and Sage is at fault for this, interesting......... When do you get people coming in and wanting to take over a buisness that is losing money in an industry that just doesn't make profits? Of course there is nobody else out there willing to throw their money away.
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Shanagar
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Perth Glory FC @PerthGloryFC 13m HALF-TIME | Glory give a solid performance to hold the in-form @MelbourneHeart to a goalless first half
ps. We're playing the bottom team you twitter dodos, equal 5th is ours with a win, and anything less is a very, very poor result regardless of the fact that no teams should ever be playing when the temperature has sat above 40 degrees for the whole match. What a disgraceful performance from the FFA.
Edited by shanagar: 9/2/2014 06:34:29 PM
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real chance of even Heart jumping us on the ladder.
Edited by iridium1010: 9/2/2014 09:22:26 PM
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Shanagar
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Did not watch, which is unfortunate as it seems I missed our 7 shots at goal that the internet says we managed to conjure up over the 90+ minutes. Someone will have to give me a very positive outlook for our future based on that stat against the league's bottom team.
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Benjo
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Shanagar wrote:Did not watch, which is unfortunate as it seems I missed our 7 shots at goal that the internet says we managed to conjure up over the 90+ minutes. Someone will have to give me a very positive outlook for our future based on that stat against the league's bottom team.
Positive outlook for the future: the two young fullbakcs had solid games. That's about it really. Yes, the heat was awful, but we didn't look like we had anything close to resembling a game plan. Woeful stuff.
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Good move Shanagar. Heat ruined the game, but even taking that into account, it was woeful from Glory. Mostly lots of one out play and hopeless long ball. At least Heart tried to knock it around with some purpose and there was a chance to do that today, with the teams unable to press too much.
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Found myself getting more excited for Heart, they at least looked like they wanted to score goals. Dire stuff in the 2nd half from us.
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So pleased Kenny got his chance to build the squad for next season. These results are really paying dividend...
Disappointed about Vuka's antics. Combined with Thwaite going off at Davies a few games ago, just adds more substance to the Young/Old rift rumour.
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Begbie wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:Tony Sage is the longest serving A-League owner yet we are one of the least stable club.
5 Managers, 5 CEOs, 1 constant captain. Definitely a rose-tinted legacy. :lol:
We don't know of any other prospective owners who may or may not take over Glory, you can not say definitively there are none, why would they risk pissing off Sage by openly declaring interest now, when there's no sign (at least this season) of him wanting to throw in the towel? least stable? not sure how you work that out. Since Sage took full control we have had 3 permenant managers 1 resigned 2 sacked. Longevity in managers is not something that happenes much in the A-league though is it? Tony Popovic is the longest serving manager at a full 18 months. 2 CEO's in those years Paul Kelly and now Jason Brewer with Kelly serving for 3 years, is that not stable? The one Captain being appointed by all the coaches and Sage is at fault for this, interesting......... When do you get people coming in and wanting to take over a buisness that is losing money in an industry that just doesn't make profits? Of course there is nobody else out there willing to throw their money away. Are you one of Sage's Kurv models? You can take those sage-tinted glasses off every now and again y'know... Gooch [Guiliani] Kelly [Boardman] Brewer 5. Smith Mitchell Ferguson Edwards Lowe 5.
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I've copied this from Fox just so we can all play a game of Word Substitution. It's worth reading because, in fact, I think we're twins.
[size=7]Continued lack of direction from the top has Sydney FC fans disenchanted again[/size] [size=3]David Weiner FOX SPORTS February 09, 2014 10:58PM[/size]
IT’S incredible that Sydney FC fans have remained so steadfast for so long. The league’s perennial sleeping giant — a euphemism for basket case — has continued to average five-figure crowds in recent seasons. Mostly, it’s on the back of the Alessandro Del Piero factor, but the fans have remained in the stands despite some, at times, shambolic performances. Until Saturday night. Sitting in the stands, from kick-off, there was a surreal, eerie atmosphere. Toxic. Tense. Pessimistic.
Then came the banners, the confiscation, the boos, the walkout, the beverage thrown at Farina, the ensuing punch-up in the crowd — it was a circus, all amid another unmemorable Sydney FC performance. But the walkout and protest is about so much more than on-field performances. After all, Sydney was sitting fifth before the match, and a fortnight ago had won a Big Blue 5-0.
In this day and age, where football fans are empowered with voices at the stadium, on forums and on social media, clubs can’t rest on their laurels. Fans cannot be fooled. And after so many years of mediocrity, the supporters at Moore Park have had enough. Confiscating the banner was the trigger for the fury on the night at Allianz. Why should paying fans be silenced if their message is not dangerous or offensive?
Silencing fans has caused no end of grief before across the competition, and has again on this occasion, but it’s a distraction from the issues at hand here. Why did the club’s supporters group come to this game so fed up? First, there’s Frank Farina.
Sympathy aside for the disgraceful beverage incident, Sydney continues to be an inconsistent riddle. Even when it strung a few wins together earlier in the season, those who watched closely were not fooled by the three points and indeed, Sydney has fluctuated in and out of form all season. The sharp, incisive display against (an insipid) Victory was the aberration, not the norm. There have been injuries, bad luck and mitigating circumstances, but all clubs have those. The bottom line is Farina’s signature has hovered over 21 of the current playing squad, he has Rado Vidosic alongside him for support and players with strong CVs on paper, yet Sydney’s away record, discipline and consistency remains haphazard. And Saturday night made it three home losses on the trot.
Had the combustible atmosphere not distracted everyone at Allianz, there would be more attention paid to the way Adelaide tore Sydney FC to shreds. A lack of ruthlessness up front cost the home side dearly, while it was men against boys — literally — with Milos Dimitrijevic, Hagi Gligor and Dylan Caton in midfield. Farina can’t make sure the ball doesn’t bounce off a long kick or knock five metre passes, but the structure and set-up of the team does stop with him. It’s ironic that this all came to a head against Josep Gombau, who faced so much early season criticism but pleaded for patience and Adelaide is certainly a work in progress with a clear vision to its game plan.
So here we are, at a crucial point of the season, and Sydney FC is at the threshold again. If Farina is the man, he needs to be the one to plan and sign for next season to avoid another late rush. If he’s not your man, tough decisions need to be made, now. Joel Chianese, Alessandro Del Piero, Ranko Despotovic, Richard Garcia, Matt Jurman, Mitch Mallia, Terry McFlynn, Ivan Necevski, Blake Powell, Marc Warren are all up for grabs at season’s end. Sydney FC has the chance to work with almost a clean slate.
But what is the club’s vision? Has a fresh replacement been scouted for Farina, or will the club just opt for someone like Gary van Egmond, who has just been sacked by Newcastle Jets? In other words, the merry-go-round continues. What is the plan to remain competitive and retain supporters when Alessandro Del Piero departs and to build on his legacy? What is Sydney’s style of play, its on-field mantra? What is its recruitment strategy? We can browse through archives and find the same arguments made about Sydney FC being made over the years.
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I don't think we're twins, I think we're far worse, I didn't watch Perth in the early years, but from I can tell, we've had the same problem since the A-league started.
Good on the Sydney FC fans for actually trying to do something about it.
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Begbie
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:Begbie wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:Tony Sage is the longest serving A-League owner yet we are one of the least stable club.
5 Managers, 5 CEOs, 1 constant captain. Definitely a rose-tinted legacy. :lol:
We don't know of any other prospective owners who may or may not take over Glory, you can not say definitively there are none, why would they risk pissing off Sage by openly declaring interest now, when there's no sign (at least this season) of him wanting to throw in the towel? least stable? not sure how you work that out. Since Sage took full control we have had 3 permenant managers 1 resigned 2 sacked. Longevity in managers is not something that happenes much in the A-league though is it? Tony Popovic is the longest serving manager at a full 18 months. 2 CEO's in those years Paul Kelly and now Jason Brewer with Kelly serving for 3 years, is that not stable? The one Captain being appointed by all the coaches and Sage is at fault for this, interesting......... When do you get people coming in and wanting to take over a buisness that is losing money in an industry that just doesn't make profits? Of course there is nobody else out there willing to throw their money away. Are you one of Sage's Kurv models? You can take those sage-tinted glasses off every now and again y'know... Gooch [Guiliani] Kelly [Boardman] Brewer 5. Smith Mitchell Ferguson Edwards Lowe 5. which part of 'since Sage took full control' don't you understand?
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:So pleased Kenny got his chance to build the squad for next season. These results are really paying dividend...
Disappointed about Vuka's antics. Combined with Thwaite going off at Davies a few games ago, just adds more substance to the Young/Old rift rumour. Positive note: JBFC didn't get a yellow, so he is more likely to be suspended for the home match!
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Scoll wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:So pleased Kenny got his chance to build the squad for next season. These results are really paying dividend...
Disappointed about Vuka's antics. Combined with Thwaite going off at Davies a few games ago, just adds more substance to the Young/Old rift rumour. Positive note: JBFC didn't get a yellow, so he is more likely to be suspended for the home match! We need better bright sides.
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That was dire yesterday. Lowe is not the one for the job. He had his input into the choice of players to get things working again, but Glory are more limp than an 80yo porn star in the front third. No one seems to have any ideas in this area. There seems to be no game plan any more. There is no system to break down defences. All other teams have worked out Glory's attack. But, there's nothing that signing some better more mature players and letting the younger ones go, that wan't fix things up for next season. So, say hello to Glory's next full time coach, Kenny Lowe. ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH ](*,) ](*,)
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Yet another game where we have no ability to generate play.
How can a club play effectively with 5 midfielders and yet only look dangerous when a 36-year-old defender surges forward himself to try and generate some play?!
If we were a fair-dinkum club, we'd now be talking about bringing in a Josep Gombau style coach but with even better credentials, and letting him choose 2 VISA players and a marquee for next season to build a team around.
Instead we'll hire Kenny Lowe and get rid of him when yet again next season we're nowhere near the top teams but lurking in 7th or 8th all season which makes us close enough to the finals to keep going along like everything might magically turn around.
I really do think the reward for mediocrity in the HAL finals system has permitted Tony Sage to develop a massively false sense of what constitutes success. the ambition should be to challenge to finish top of the table, and treat the finals as a bonus... not to make the finals and hope to hit form at the right time and sneak a championship.
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It's almost got to the point where i don't care if we lose. Just so over it. It wouldn't be too bad if we seemed to show signs of a gameplan and spirit, but there's nothing like that. Lowe isn't the right man for the job, he's just a temp, yet knowing Sage we'll still hire him for next year.
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Benjo wrote:It's almost got to the point where i don't care if we lose. Just so over it. It wouldn't be too bad if we seemed to show signs of a gameplan and spirit, but there's nothing like that. Lowe isn't the right man for the job, he's just a temp, yet knowing Sage we'll still hire him for next year. I frowned when I saw that we had lost. That was about the extent of the emotional reaction I got. This season has been a shambles. And yeah, Lowe comes with the principal benefit of being cheap, so he's a shoe-in. Going to be a hard sell to get people on board next season if they pick him though.
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hotrod wrote:No one seems to have any ideas in this area. There seems to be no game plan any more. There is no system to break down defences. All other teams have worked out Glory's attack. Come on mate that's not 100% true, you're up against Sydney FC this week. :lol:
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I watch the Glory games on Foxtel each week and I can safely say we are the most boring team in the A-League. Although we are consistent. Our defence is really what keeps us in games, but we sacrifice too much in attack to keep a tight defence.
In attack we lack any creativity (especially in the middle). Smeltz is a finisher ... you put it near the goal for him and he’ll score. We should be one of the highest scoring teams in the comp, not equal last. Sidnei and Harold (and wing backs) provide the only penetration for the team, and most of this they have to manufacture themselves.
We should have one defensive midfield (McGarry) and then some creative flair in front of him (the defence shouldn’t need the whole midfield to help them out with every attack … if the midfield instead held the ball and attacked the defenders would have less to do). This is a pet annoyance of mine in my team too. I play the holding midfield role, and stay quite defensive. But our defenders scream at everyone else when we are attacked. We play with four defenders and a defensive midfielder, and most teams against us only play 2 forwards. If five people can’t hold up 2 players there is something wrong. Glory deploy six players to hold 2 forwards (or in some circumstances 1 forward). No wonder they struggle in front of goal, most their team is sitting back defending when the ball is at their feet.
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A16Man wrote:hotrod wrote:No one seems to have any ideas in this area. There seems to be no game plan any more. There is no system to break down defences. All other teams have worked out Glory's attack. Come on mate that's not 100% true, you're up against Sydney FC this week. :lol: You forget. Glory are playing all the out of form teams into form this year.
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Begbie wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:Begbie wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:Tony Sage is the longest serving A-League owner yet we are one of the least stable club.
5 Managers, 5 CEOs, 1 constant captain. Definitely a rose-tinted legacy. :lol:
We don't know of any other prospective owners who may or may not take over Glory, you can not say definitively there are none, why would they risk pissing off Sage by openly declaring interest now, when there's no sign (at least this season) of him wanting to throw in the towel? least stable? not sure how you work that out. Since Sage took full control we have had 3 permenant managers 1 resigned 2 sacked. Longevity in managers is not something that happenes much in the A-league though is it? Tony Popovic is the longest serving manager at a full 18 months. 2 CEO's in those years Paul Kelly and now Jason Brewer with Kelly serving for 3 years, is that not stable? The one Captain being appointed by all the coaches and Sage is at fault for this, interesting......... When do you get people coming in and wanting to take over a buisness that is losing money in an industry that just doesn't make profits? Of course there is nobody else out there willing to throw their money away. Are you one of Sage's Kurv models? You can take those sage-tinted glasses off every now and again y'know... Gooch [Guiliani] Kelly [Boardman] Brewer 5. Smith Mitchell Ferguson Edwards Lowe 5. which part of 'since Sage took full control' don't you understand? You had trouble counting so had go through it for you. So you deny my original comment and think that Tony wasn't an Owner or responsible for those earlier signings? I don't care what filter you run through afterwards, the facts are the facts. You can ignore Ron Smith all you like, he and Sage were both at the club at the same. Just like he appointed Guiliani and Boardman, who are STILL at the club. But Sage is our Saviour. Long live the Messiah!
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