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Fredsta wrote:I think that mk didnt intend it to be interpreted how it has been but it still is a pretty risque comment to make to say the least. Are you actualy German or something afro? Kind of taking it in a different direction though, I always knew the man was crazy but we have been reading alot of extracts from his biography in history and he is a full on lunatic his biography is seriously just a massive rant with no structure to it (you can tell he dropped out of school) almsot from the get go in the book he is at the Jews and the whole thing is just pretty much why he hates the Jews and how they are the cause of every problem Interestingly enough Hitler had a hand in rounding the Jewish people up yes but he never ordered or mentioned anything about killing them. That all came from Himmler and Goebbles.
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Hitler was the public face of Himmler and Goebbels' demented minds.
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Basically yes. He had syphillis for fucks sake and was doing LSD 2 times a day!
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martyB
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Gobbles! 
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Guest wrote:Basically yes. He had syphillis for fucks sake and was doing LSD 2 times a day! It's the syphillis that does it. The LSD was prescribed as an anti-depressant IIRC. Marty, we really didn't need to see what happens after you fucked the turkey...
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To the colonel bogey march...
Hitler had only one brass ball,
Ger-ring had two but they were small,
Himmler had something simmler,
And poor old Go-balls had no balls at all.
My Dad tells me of that one. I'm half German and have been there numerous times. We rip into them about the war all the time. If I ever lose to anyone of them in card games or whatever, I just say "At least we didn't invade Poland".
I used to get called Hitler back in year 9 and 10 heaps for jokes, so I'm really over it. I remember a teacher went nuts one time at someone who said it, but I honestly don't care. Stupid to be offended over IMO.
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Guest wrote:Interestingly enough Hitler had a hand in rounding the Jewish people up yes but he never ordered or mentioned anything about killing them. That all came from Himmler and Goebbles. But it was Hitler who used the Jews as target board in his political policy when gaining support. He blamed them for the high unemployment rate, especially for "real" germans. Himmler and Goebbles may have ordered the attrocious killings and torture but it was Hitler who initially made jewish discrimination legal and national policy. He is as guilty as anyone IMHO. Quote:I used to get called Hitler back in year 9 and 10 heaps for jokes, so I'm really over it. I remember a teacher went nuts one time at someone who said it, but I honestly don't care. Stupid to be offended over IMO. Same thing goes with Croats being refered to Milosevic...unless its from someone they dont know. Then all hell breaks loose.
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if you call a bosian milosevic they will kill you as well. wgmg is being labeled a drug dealer due to the fact im asian!!!!
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deportivo1985 wrote:Guest wrote:Interestingly enough Hitler had a hand in rounding the Jewish people up yes but he never ordered or mentioned anything about killing them. That all came from Himmler and Goebbles. But it was Hitler who used the Jews as target board in his political policy when gaining support. He blamed them for the high unemployment rate, especially for "real" germans. Himmler and Goebbles may have ordered the attrocious killings and torture but it was Hitler who initially made jewish discrimination legal and national policy. He is as guilty as anyone IMHO. Quote:I used to get called Hitler back in year 9 and 10 heaps for jokes, so I'm really over it. I remember a teacher went nuts one time at someone who said it, but I honestly don't care. Stupid to be offended over IMO. Same thing goes with Croats being refered to Milosevic...unless its from someone they dont know. Then all hell breaks loose. Nobody is denying that he is to blame yes he put it all in motion but the view that he was the man who ordered the killings needs to be fixed. People should know how evil Himmler and Goebbels were. Lets not forget as terrible as Hitler was he also did some great things for Germany. Himmler and Goebbels were just pure evil.
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hitler did good things for germany?? please just stop.....
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He took them out of recesion and hyperinflation. Started massive infrastructure and re building of the country that was in desperate states having not been repaired since WW1. He basically got unemployment down to 0. The autobarn is the perfect example.
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Quote:The autobarn is the perfect example. Quote:The autobarn is the perfect example. He invented:  ? Edited by martyB: 13/5/2009 11:47:49 AM
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Of course! He also built lots of autobahns :P
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I saw that edit Marty :P
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Guest wrote:He took them out of recesion and hyperinflation. Started massive infrastructure and re building of the country that was in desperate states having not been repaired since WW1. He basically got unemployment down to 0. The autobarn is the perfect example. Nothing stimulates a global economy like when we're trying to kill eachother. You look through out modern history and every financial downturn is followed almost immediately by some kind of international conflict.
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tru most of the time its the americans who start the conflicts due to national intrests ..
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:tru most of the time its the americans who start the conflicts due to national intrests .. Bore War - England and South Africans WW1 - Germany and Austira WW2 - Germany Russo - Afghani war - Russia Franco - Prussian War - Germany You getting how wrong your argument is?
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Guest wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:tru most of the time its the americans who start the conflicts due to national intrests .. Bore War - England and South Africans WW1 - Germany and Austira WW2 - Germany Russo - Afghani war - Russia Franco - Prussian War - Germany You getting how wrong your argument is? Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (twice), Panama....
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guatalmela, iraq,cuba,argentina,damn most of south america dont you know your history cambodia,korea, etc etc brasil, gutamalea had a democarticaly elected president but us didnt like him due to him natianlising the fruit business so they assianted him and installed a dictor who pandered to the us fruit contacts but he ended up being a mainical despot..
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Well if they all bent over like we did, things would have gone down a bit smoother. :-s
And the US were in Korea by order/request of the UN IIRC.
Argentina? Brasil?
The US runs narcotics missions - but that's hardly 'conflict'.
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yep the us basiacally didnt like the countries elected officals so they got both assianated .. like i said natioanl intrests so the us did all that back in the day ..jfk was the biggest beliver of assasatnation
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These assassinations don't constitute conflict in the context of your initial argument: the US starting conflicts (wars) for national interest.
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Quote:Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (twice), Panama.... Vietnam was the french. They 'started' Korea though, albeit at the request of the UN.
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ok touche martyb..touche
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martyB wrote:guatalmela, iraq,cuba,argentina,damn most of south america dont you know your history cambodia,korea, etc etc brasil, gutamalea had a democarticaly elected president but us didnt like him due to him natianlising the fruit business so they assianted him and installed a dictor who pandered to the us fruit contacts but he ended up being a mainical despot.. The whole Pinochet regime in Chile wasnt helped by the American's(tad of an understatement?). Hope Nixons getting raped in Hell. :evil:
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In terms of starting wars though America has absolutely nothing on most European countries.
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I think the americans were a little preoccupied with the various other conflicts they had managed to get themselves caught up in at the time...
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The statement was though Americans start wars when quite obviously they are not that bad.
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afromanGT wrote:I think the americans were a little preoccupied with the various other conflicts they had managed to get themselves caught up in at the time... Thats right. America(CIA) are much more subtle than that. They'd rather pull some strings and let the others battle away. [-(
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:-kThe french have been involved in more conflicts than anybody else actually. Let's blame it all on the french.
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