WGMG: Feminist fuckwits manipulating the tragic Hughes injury to suit their agenda.
I've seen a few people on my newsfeed seriously whinging about the coverage given to "one man" when "women are hit on the head every day by men".
It sickens me that there are people out there dumb enough to not appreciate what makes this such a significant issue, and even more sickening is that there are people who would use a tragedy like this to aggressively push an agenda.

that's fucked . Also people are commentating that he wasn't wearing the newest helmet .

That's horrible.

Didn't we just have white ribbon day to acknowledge the severity of violence against women? I mean it was a national day. It got plenty of coverage.

WGMG:

1. People who pay for something custom made and then complain its too expensive when its time to pay for it. No-one put gun to their head to buy it, did they?

2. People you tell:" we might be able to squeeze you in between appointments, but 2 months later arrive at the same time as the booked person at 5:00 pm and expect to be seen "because you said you will see me between people".

here's one for the feminists

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Edited by batfink: 26/11/2014 03:18:18 PM

WGMG: Dickheads that go on about how the ABC is "just lefty propaganda".

Get real ya bunch of farken nonces, even independent studies show that if anything, it leans to the right.

Hail the free market, fuck equality, etc, etc. Stahp da botes.

WGMG: Situations when the blame gets put on me for things I didn't even know had happened.

Coverage is way over the top though about this Hughes bloke. Front page of today's paper up here emblazoned with "Pray for him" or some bullshit like that. (Paraphrasing but you get the point.)

Fair dinkum you'd think Elvis had just died.

You're talking about The Courier Mail here :lol:

-PB

WGMG: People who say "our prayers are with him" despite not having stepped foot inside a church for the past 20 years.

Cheap and meaningless platitudes offered because they think they better say something profound.

And throw in all the counselling that goes with it. FFS. I saw a bloke knocked out cold in the air going for a header and then thumped into the ground and proceeded to have a massive seizure for a minute of so in front of about a dozen of us. After the ambos came and went everyone just went fucking hell that was a bit grim but you know amazingly we somehow all survived. (And we finished the game.)

Fuck knows what would happen these days. Probably get dragged into some room with some bozo to "talk about our feelings" blah blah.

(@PB There's only one rag worse the the Courier Mail and that's the NT News but really they're doing it for a laugh and not pretending it's journalism.)

LOL....ABC auditing itself....LOL

WGMG: People who think prayer works.



Edited by MUNRUBENMUZ: 27/11/2014 05:42:21 PM

Turn it up mun, not everyone copes with these situations well
Imagine how Abbott feels about this, he did nothing wrong but his head must be all over the place
Edit: Freudian slip

Edited by The Maco: 27/11/2014 07:05:41 PM

Have you ever seen someone receive CPR?

You only ever need to see it once to never forget it.

It was obvious from the footage that he suffered a cardiac arrest fairly shortly after the incident. This can be seen by his lifeless blue (cyanotic) face. Its understandable that the players involved might be traumatised by such an event. There is actually a condition known as acute stress disorder that occurs from this. Early counseling has been shown in clinical trials to reduce the risk of going on to develop PTSD - a far more serious, long-term and difficult condition to treat.

So, there's actually a medical reason why counseling is provided rather than just some fluffy new-age bullshit.

This . So fucking .much

You would of course be aware of the study that took 2 separate groups of traumatised people. One group they counselled and encouraged them to talk about their feeling and all the rest of it. The other group they sat down with a cup of tea and just had a general chat.

The outcomes were the same in both groups. (I will find this study and link it.)

Not everyone copes with counselling. Constantly reliving a memory can make it worse.

Of course counselling can help but to say everyone needs counselling after a traumatic event is a crock of shit.

And yes I have seen CPR. I have also had 2 people I love die in front of me.

It ain't nice but treating EVERY SINGLE PERSON like a victim is doing nobody any favours.

As for Abbot bad luck for him but he should shrug his shoulders and say "shit happens" because you know what, shit does happen.

All the macho crap they've been spinning for years about terrorising and wanting to kill batsmen and having a laugh and a chuckle over all these near misses has come back to bit all those spruikers of "chin music" right fair in the arse.

This Abbot bloke doesn't need counselling. He needs a good couple of mates nearby telling him that accidents happen and it wasn't his fault.

Telling, or worse, encouraging him to relive, talk, explain, making him feel like a victim will only haunt him for the rest of his days.

Terrible to happen to him but what blokes who've come back from war zones, paramedics, trauma surgeons, ER nurses must think of all this I can not imagine.

Mate he just fucking killed a bloke (albeit accidental)... how would you feel if you killed someone?

I'd say he's entitled to all the support he gets.



That really is an unfair comparison. These people knowingly signed up for and expected to see some horrific shit. Of course they are entitled to all the support they need, but it's unfair to compare it to a game of cricket - no one expects to see someone go collapse on the cricket field and later die.

Edited by 433: 27/11/2014 09:20:51 PM

Edited by 433: 27/11/2014 09:21:27 PM

Fair enough. I don't think the players are being forced to do anything though. Rather than just offered help at least and encouraged to consider it.

Of course he's entitled to support. I'm talking about counselling. They're 2 different things.

People in those profession get offered counseling too. Abott may be able to shrug it off with a couple of good mate's support, but I would suggest he would benefit from more professional help. Especially as I'm sure he would want to continue his career.

Sometimes, that's all counseling is.

My point is that if you encourage everyone to feel like a victim you'll have more victims.

A perfect example of this is these days now is when a girl gets touched on the arse or some grub grabs her on the tit she's told she's been raped or sexually assaulted. Telling her she's a victim instead of telling her she should have told him to "fuck off" is only traumatising her further. (No I am not suggesting that girls shouldn't complain about sexual assault or that it's their fault.)

This rush to jump in and offer counselling could well be counterproductive. Maybe they'd be better off letting the dust settle and approach them in a months time and ask them are they OK about it. If they are then move on, if they're not then help them out.

To take the example I gave above with old mate collapsing and having a seizure in front of us. None of us needed counselling or maybe because it wasn't offered we sorted that shit out ourselves.

Stiff upper lip and all that.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/6aebb9cd-cb06-b40c-233869623a68680e/

http://www.nzac.org.nz/counselling_aotearoa_news.cfm?articleID=212&page_obj_id=53

http://www.communitycare.co.uk/2005/07/14/counselling-may-be-counterproductive/




Edited by MUNRUBENMUZ: 27/11/2014 09:43:42 PM

Interesting reads, I see your point.

But hey I guess he'll decide himself what sort of stuff he'll do... I doubt he'll ever be able to bowl a bouncer again.

A good counsellor will work out what's best for the person they are working with, whether that's extensive work or nothing at all

Wow. Just wow.

You're a fucking drongo.

Deadset dropkick of the highest order. Probably the type of person who think depression doesn't exist as well.

Like how he mentions people coming back from warzones. Even though most of them come back with countless issues.

You will never be able to understand some of the mental crap that people go through. The emotional roller coaster, and that feeling of being alone even if a room is filled with people.

Sean Abbott was doing something he loved. The very same thing that Philip Hughes loved. They were playing a game that they both cared about. They were in a moment that the have probably dreamed about as little kids. Playing Sheffield Shield games for 'your' state and pushing for Australian Test selection.

In a freak accident, Sean has injured and hurt another player. That player has subsequently passed on. A player only 3 years older than Sean. No person at the age of 22 should have to deal with the emotional trauma associated with this incident. His name will forever be associated with this accident, and not in a good way. He was the bowler who was doing his job, playing a sport he loves, and unfortunately the batsman on the other side of the ball is no longer with us. One moment they were out on the field playing in front of virtually nobody purely because it was something they loved doing, next minute he was cradling Hughes lifeless head in his arms.

No one is assuming he needs counselling, but they are offering it to him. They are saying, "if that is what you want, it is there."

You have no right to tell a person what it is they need or want particularly when it comes to issues of mental health.

The fact that people like you can say, "Counselling, sod that, just grab a beer have a a sit down and lets discuss how hot this shiela is," and expect that person to overcome their issues, shows a massive lacking in compassion for the emotions of other people.

I hope you never have to experience the mental problems that many others suffer from, whether that be yourself or from people close to you. Not everyone is the same. Sometimes a cup of tea can help, but NEVER EVER look down on those who have it worse off. NEVER EVER tell them to harden up. NEVER EVER speak as if you understand, especially when you don't.

I'm no longer surprised at anything Feminists co-opt for their own #FirstWorldProblems