Turns out she works weekends, so she's not actually ignoring me.

If she's not someone that you've talked to much, then the easiest way to make conversation is to find common ground and roll with it. If you have shared interests then that's perfect, otherwise bitch about your teachers, ask how she's finding a class or what she got for a homework question, even just really generic things like how you don't like exams or that you can't wait for the holidays or something. People are vain af, we like those who are similar to us and who we can relate to.

Buy a book called "how to win friends and influence people"
Read it a few times and take some notes. It's a very old book but a very valuable book for a lot of people when it comes to interacting with others.

Why does it matter lol? She could be in hospital with a dying relative finding a song to play to them ffs.

You are making a big deal out of everything. It isn't healthy and won't help you in the future mate. You need to teach yourself to not get so worked up about things.

I know it sucks, but we were all young blokes and we all know what it's like - But your best option is to realise that you can't force people to feel things, you know? I'm not saying it's the case because I honestly have no idea, but some good general advice is to realise that if someone isn't interested, then you're better off trying to walk away from it. If there's nothing you can do to change things, they aren't going to change, you know?

I'm not saying this to be harsh or as "tough love" or something, but you are obviously upset about this. You are worth more than being worried about whether or not someone instantly replies to you via personal message - You need to realise that.

I guess the reason I'm stressing about whether she wants to be friends with me or not is because there aren't many other people at my school who'd want to. I can only think of about 5-10 people who are friendly to me on a regular basis (almost all of them are girls, don't really "fit in" with other guys) and I don't even know if they actually want to be friends with me, so yeah.

Salmon mate if it helps you with your confidence I am more than happy to tell you that you are a great kid wirh a very bright future and im happy to call you a mate and 100% be genuine about it.

I understand, but don't worry mate, the world becomes a different (and better) place when high schools finishes. While you're under 18 you're pretty much forced to hang out with mates from school or mates you meet through other mates from school. I talk to maybe one person from high school these days (and I finished in 2003). Even at about 2005 I probably only spoke to about 5.

You'll meet other people you share interests with, they just might not be at your school. Don't worry yourself if they want to be friends or not - should you let other people define the meaning of your life?

Yeah my advice is don't do that. It just puts her in an awkward position because she's not going to know what to say or do about it, and you're not going to want to feel like she's only talking to you out of pity.

Also, don't put yourself down so much, talking badly about yourself just makes you focus on it more. I know it's easier said than done, but it helps.

Hit the weights m80. It makes you feel big.

I used to be a bit like you... i think only a few very teenage guys don't go through it. I even to this day tell people i hadnt ever thought about hooking up with girls til i was well into year 12. I was always awkward around them. I never thought that i had alot of friends maybe a dozen at most at school that i would talk to. But its funny how when you get older and one little thing will happen and everything changes. For me in year 12 i was in English and i only really spoke to one person in that class and he would always sit with this girl who i knew for 6 years prior but never spoke to, well the guy transferred out of the class and so i would sit in my normal seat and she would sit next to me instead... six awkward months past and we had to work together on something, i somehow over the space of a month or so became best friends with her, her family moved into my street it was great. Girls were never an issue after that. However after 2 years we hooked up... it got weird. We didn't talk for like 5 years. Now were cool though. But its just funny how things just happen. Youll get along with someone one day and then it just becomes easy. However my wife would tell you that I'm an arrogant self centered offensive bastard that shouldnt have friends. She'd be right.

WGMG: I had this weird feeling of anxiousness/trembling/guts churning all day and didn't know what it was all about. Since 8pm I've been in and out of trigeminal neuralgia attacks non stop. From baseball bats to the head, razors blades to my gums, electric shocks from my ear to my jaw. It is bloody unreal how something so god damn small can create so much chaos. On top of that If it's still going tomorrow I've got an appointmrnt with the ENT to suction blood and scabs from my nose from surgery a few weeks ago. It's going to be crazy painful!

That's fucked up man :(

Try get a prescription for some Endone. I'll buy it.

Ive used endone but it doesn't touch it. Not one ounce of difference. Carbamezapine worked for about 6 months then stopped. Then a ton of others... but turns out my liver and kidneys are too sensitive to alot of the epilepsy medication so i had actually been on nothing for 6 months. Then i had surgery on my nose and ears and ever since my pain has been gradually coming back progressively worse!

To be honest I don't even speak to hardly anybody from school anymore. We all went our separate ways, If I had my time again I wouldn't of worried to much as I did when I was in school about friends etc.

Same. Hell my best friend from high school i lost contact with after he gave my phone number to a debt collector without my knowledge. The only friends i have now are my daughters parents who i actually get along with quite well

Wgmg: my back and left shoulder is swollen and sore. Every time i lift something at work i feel like im gonna faint and or vomit.

same here, I have some good work friends and that's about it. I am happy with my soon to be wife and kid. Friends while it is good to have some, School ones tend to disappear.

I know that the chances I'll keep any friendships I make in high school after Year 12 are slim, I'd like some preparation and some experience in terms of making friends before I go out into the real world.

On the upside, I struck up a conversation with two very nice girls when I joined their group to do some archery in Health and PE (who know my brother fairly well) and I'll be adding them on Facebook once I get home. Nervous as shit while talking to them but hey I did it \:d/

With sounding like I'm going all NAMBLA here it sounds like you needs some friends in a more mature age group. It seems like you're very mature for your age. Make friends with some 17/18 year olds. Is your brother old than you? Could you hang out with your brother and his mates?

There you have it everyone, the true path to happiness is by being your own best friend.

True friends will stick no matter what. But as school goes by and you leave and you start work you will realize who is there and who wont.

My bad, i meant my eldest daughters friends parents. Also my former best mate was a brother to me, we went thru a lot together, my parents divorcing,his dad passing away at al. We were closer than close but he goes and fucks it up by giving my number to a debt collector. I wouldn't mind if he told me

WGMG: 38 degrees today.

Great beach weather :lol:

Ive been lazing by the pool for most of the day.

WGMG: Fuckwits who dont know what street they're on, let alone the country they live. Nearly got cleaned up by a bloke who was indicating to go left at a T-Juntion only for him to change his mind 5 meters out from the turn, speed up and continue going straight. Nearly cleaned the Missus and I right up.

I was on a roof for most of it :cry:

WGMG: Big month or two coming up in regards to me choosing what work I'm gonna do

WGMG: First time sleeping in the last few days and I get woken up at 4am by gunfire :/ Fuck this shit I can't cope.

I can't imagine what you must be going through right now, I'm so sorry. Is there any way you can get away from it until it quietens down a bit?