Glenn - A-league Mad
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pv4 wrote:WGMG: I just ate way, way too much yogurt. Ugggh. To much yogurt always feels horrible. Like deep down you feel horrible.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:scubaroo wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:scubaroo wrote:WGMG: Builders being fucking slow with house drawings... we give them the alterations we need but insist on doing preliminary drawings that have no changes so that they can send it to us and then we have to change it so then they have to do new drawings. Which then delays the point when we can get final costings so we can go for our home loan... Not builders fault. Its their drafting team or estimators . Tell them in no uncertsin terms you need them done . Who u building with?? Wgmg: youngest hospitalized today. She didnt breath for 10 to 15 seconds. But is fine now We are building with Geelong homes, and yeah i knew it wasnt the builder as such but Geelong homes have just been so slow with everything. Our broker has worked with them in the past and said they have been quite good, they've been really accomodating but just very slow... we haven't been difficult because we are on a tight budget and know what we can afford. We've asked them to fast track everything to the point we can apply for the loan (it was one of the stipulations when we decided to go with them after looking for 18 months) after that they can take as long as they like. I know they have procedures to follow and such but seriously... weve been waiting for movement since October. No, that is the company being dicks now. There is procedures yes but the owner/licensed builder needs to kick the estimators/drafting teams ass. Thats ridiculous Yeah... not to mention if we got our drawings now, the guy we are dealing with us on holidays for 4 weeks and is only contactable via email, he says to us to look over preliminary drawings when we get them, make our changes (which had already been done as he has sent us an "unofficial" copy of them, which are accurate and correct) then send them to him and he will sort out our final drawings and contract which if obviously going to be over a month away as he can't sign stuff while he if in fiji. It's difficult cause as we've not done this before youre not sure if this is how it normally goes. We've had friends build with them and its been easy and had other friends build with other companies where its been terrible... realistically we chose them because of price point so i guess you get what you pay for. We don't need to rush the build we have 3 years to start it but getting the loan is better for us sooner than later. Geelong homes had been good with the land developer. The block we got was a fluke. It had been sold for 2 years but the owners didn't build on it and they had to within 2 years so they lost the block we found it an hour after it came on the market but it had stipulations that building had to Start within a year and they wanted settlement within 2 months. Geelong homes and our broker fought with the developer for ages, turns out our broker was very good personal friends with the developer and we got the Original stipulations on the block... plus at the price it had been sold for 2 years ago. At least that is going for us. Rant over.
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salmonfc
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WGMG: The Life Of Pablo is a permanent Tidal exclusive.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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sydneycroatia58
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salmonfc wrote:WGMG: The Life Of Pablo is a permanent Tidal exclusive. *cough* torrent *cough*
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salmonfc
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:salmonfc wrote:WGMG: The Life Of Pablo is a permanent Tidal exclusive. *cough* torrent *cough* I don't know how to. Might ask a classmate about it.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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Slobodan Drauposevic
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Yeah or just use that thing right in front of you that actual does the torrenting.
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Carlito
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Exclusive :lol: salmon u have much to learn my friend Wgmg: nearly got rear ended by a ute who was speeding . Wouldnt mind but it was peak hour in the morning and traffic was building in front of me
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Eastern Glory
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salmonfc wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:salmonfc wrote:WGMG: The Life Of Pablo is a permanent Tidal exclusive. *cough* torrent *cough* I don't know how to. Might ask a classmate about it. Don't worry dude, I don't understand any of that shit either. I only worked our free movie streaming a couple of years back.
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Glenn - A-league Mad
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#firstworldproblems
When you promote people off the shop floor into manager positions instead of hiring outside the company. Then that person slowly unravels because the reality of "I could do that job - those guys have it easy" dosent pan out. Instead of trying to fix the problem and get your group working, go into full on moping and sulking mode until inevitably they are demoted or fired.
So farking frustrating.
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RedshirtWilly
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Glenn - A-league Mad wrote:#firstworldproblems
When you promote people off the shop floor into manager positions instead of hiring outside the company. Then that person slowly unravels because the reality of "I could do that job - those guys have it easy" dosent pan out. Instead of trying to fix the problem and get your group working, go into full on moping and sulking mode until inevitably they are demoted or fired.
So farking frustrating.
Do they always walk into the job all like "I'm da man now" because they've been in the shop and experienced stuff so now the company must change!
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Glenn - A-league Mad
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RedshirtWilly wrote:Glenn - A-league Mad wrote:#firstworldproblems
When you promote people off the shop floor into manager positions instead of hiring outside the company. Then that person slowly unravels because the reality of "I could do that job - those guys have it easy" dosent pan out. Instead of trying to fix the problem and get your group working, go into full on moping and sulking mode until inevitably they are demoted or fired.
So farking frustrating.
Do they always walk into the job all like "I'm da man now" because they've been in the shop and experienced stuff so now the company must change! A lot of them are promoted because they do there own individual job well. They then usually ask to be promoted if a spot becomes available. Some do well but alot fail. A air few do go on a "Im the man" spree at first acting like they have just been brought in to save the company. A few weeks later and the pressure cracks them. Nearly all the time it is pressure they bring on themselves by letting stuff spiral out of control. But nothing pisses me off more when they basically throw there arms up and think its not there problem. They think they are doing a great job and that there is just no way anyone could handle it. Then they give up trying.... Motivating and supervising staff gives way to the blame game "I told him to do it, cant help it if HE didnt" ect ect.......
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RedshirtWilly
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The old battle between manager and leader
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Eastern Glory
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I'm totally that guy RN hahaha Except that when I got promoted, I absolutely came into my own and started like a house on fire, setting the company record (over 200 stores over the last 10 years) for the most consecutive weeks of hitting my targets, and the largest gross week my store has ever had.
Sadly, my boss has gone on MAT leave and the person who has replaced her just isn't the same. I know that's life, but right now my attitude is slipping by the day.
Edited by eastern glory: 17/2/2016 11:08:04 PM
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JP
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WGMG: The yearly saga of enrolling and sorting out the timetable for uni. I began the process a month ago, finally was officially enrolled yesterday, and am now waiting for some hack in the admin department to manually set my timetable because the system can't cope with it.
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BETHFC
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WGMFG: The nonsense surrounding the murder in Perth by that 11 year old kid. He killed a bloke, end of story. Quote:Ms Prince said her client suffered a childhood trauma at the age of five when he witnessed the death of his brother, who was run over when crossing the road.
Honestly, how is this fucking relevant? A shit upbringing and childhood trauma should NEVER be a factor in a criminal case. I am sick to death of this shit in our courts. When I got robbed 4 years ago, the fucker they caught driving my car got a lessened sentence (they had outstanding warrants) because of their living circumstances (drugs, violent upbringing, relationship stress etc.). This is why our country has gone to shit. There is absolutely no accountability these days. You can plead that your life sucks or you have a mental illness and get a lesser sentence. /End rant.
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As a general rule, people would rather blame society for ills and will push this narrative to the high heavens rather than demand personal responsibility for actions although in this case he is 11 years old and should be treated differently on that basis alone.
Its likely his defence team will push the whole childhood trauma thing but its unlikely it made any difference to him despite what society will tell you. Also, it says he was one of up to 20 people involved in the fight and 3 others (adults) have been charged with murder as well so its hard to know how much this kid had to do with it.
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BETHFC
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u4486662 wrote:As a general rule, people would rather blame society for ills and will push this narrative to the high heavens rather than demand personal responsibility for actions although in this case he is 11 years old and should be treated differently on that basis alone.
Its likely his defence team will push the whole childhood trauma thing but its unlikely it made any difference to him despite what society will tell you. Also, it says he was one of up to 20 people involved in the fight and 3 others (adults) have been charged with murder as well so its hard to know how much this kid had to do with it. That's what annoys me, it's always societies fault for everything. TBH if you're being charged in a murder IDGAF how old you are, you've contributed to the taking of a life and should face the consequences. Kids and teenagers are committing violent crimes these days and seem to be shielded from punishment by their age. At 11 years old, you should know that fighting with weapons is a terrible fucking idea.
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Glenn - A-league Mad
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BETHFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:As a general rule, people would rather blame society for ills and will push this narrative to the high heavens rather than demand personal responsibility for actions although in this case he is 11 years old and should be treated differently on that basis alone.
Its likely his defence team will push the whole childhood trauma thing but its unlikely it made any difference to him despite what society will tell you. Also, it says he was one of up to 20 people involved in the fight and 3 others (adults) have been charged with murder as well so its hard to know how much this kid had to do with it. That's what annoys me, it's always societies fault for everything. TBH if you're being charged in a murder IDGAF how old you are, you've contributed to the taking of a life and should face the consequences. Kids and teenagers are committing violent crimes these days and seem to be shielded from punishment by their age. At 11 years old, you should know that fighting with weapons is a terrible fucking idea. There are no bad people or bad kids anymore, just bad society. Also no-one should learn to lose. Lets take away the potential for win and loss and just play for fun. Weed is frum da errfff mannnn......
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u4486662
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BETHFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:As a general rule, people would rather blame society for ills and will push this narrative to the high heavens rather than demand personal responsibility for actions although in this case he is 11 years old and should be treated differently on that basis alone.
Its likely his defence team will push the whole childhood trauma thing but its unlikely it made any difference to him despite what society will tell you. Also, it says he was one of up to 20 people involved in the fight and 3 others (adults) have been charged with murder as well so its hard to know how much this kid had to do with it. That's what annoys me, it's always societies fault for everything. TBH if you're being charged in a murder IDGAF how old you are, you've contributed to the taking of a life and should face the consequences. Kids and teenagers are committing violent crimes these days and seem to be shielded from punishment by their age. At 11 years old, you should know that fighting with weapons is a terrible fucking idea. If the kid dealt the fatal blow or a fatal blow, which is possible, then sure. Its possible he may have just been standing around. Its difficult to know how much influence an 11 year old kid would have in a 20 person brawl. I suspect little but who knows?
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JP
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No eleven year old has the same ability as an adult to make a judgment about life and death.
For that reason alone, it would be a massive injustice for that kid to serve the same sentence as an adult in that situation.
Edited by JP: 18/2/2016 05:45:32 PM
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WGMG: Using the shaver just a few minutes ago, opened it up to clean all the hair out of it and all the pieces fell out. The blades, the blade guard, literally everything. What a piece of shit.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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BETHFC
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JP wrote:No eleven year old has the same ability as an adult to make a judgment about life and death.
For that reason alone, it would be a massive injustice for that kid to serve the same sentence as an adult in that situation.
Edited by JP: 18/2/2016 05:45:32 PM This is exactly the problem. People assume he lacks judgement because he's 11 and therefore he's basically off the hook.
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salmonfc
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Update on the shaver. Apparently there's a mechanism in the shaver where, upon being activated, releases all the pieces to make the inside easier to clean and once you're done you can out all the pieces back in place. I'm a fuckwit.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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JP
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BETHFC wrote:JP wrote:No eleven year old has the same ability as an adult to make a judgment about life and death.
For that reason alone, it would be a massive injustice for that kid to serve the same sentence as an adult in that situation.
Edited by JP: 18/2/2016 05:45:32 PM This is exactly the problem. People assume he lacks judgement because he's 11 and therefore he's basically off the hook. How did you possibly come up with "he's basically off the hook" from "he should serve a lesser sentence than an adult?" Of course he lacks judgment because he's 11. He's halfway through his education. He hasn't even hit puberty. His brain will keep developing for another decade.
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Eastern Glory
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He may lack judgement, but you have to be a fucked up 11 year old to not know the consequences of killing someone.
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When you go to bang your misso in the Lakemba mcdonalds toilets but somebody knocks of the cubical door. Major block
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BETHFC
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JP wrote: How did you possibly come up with "he's basically off the hook" from "he should serve a lesser sentence than an adult?"
Either way it's still ridiculous. JP wrote: Of course he lacks judgment because he's 11. He's halfway through his education. He hasn't even hit puberty. His brain will keep developing for another decade.
If you're 11 and don't know better than to kill someone, you deserve to be put down because you're a danger to yourself and everyone around you :) But hey, don't let that stop you and the bleeding hearts of Australia for making excuses :roll:
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WGMG: People say "Do us a favour ......" when they want something done at work. I'll do it because I'm paid to not as a favour.
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JP
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BETHFC wrote:JP wrote: How did you possibly come up with "he's basically off the hook" from "he should serve a lesser sentence than an adult?"
Either way it's still ridiculous. JP wrote: Of course he lacks judgment because he's 11. He's halfway through his education. He hasn't even hit puberty. His brain will keep developing for another decade.
If you're 11 and don't know better than to kill someone, you deserve to be put down because you're a danger to yourself and everyone around you :) But hey, don't let that stop you and the bleeding hearts of Australia for making excuses :roll: What a simplistic world-view. I'm guessing you wouldn't have a problem with mentally ill/insane criminals being treated, tried and punished in the same way as mentally sound criminals? You don't need to be a 'bleeding heart' to see why that might be a problem - you just need to be thoughtful enough to look at the context.
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