Would you like some cream for that...?

I felt the need to sign in to concur personally with everythign being said by Guest.

oooooooooohhhh

Well...we need someone to bag the shit out of, and failing Foster... all we're left with is you and that's way too easy.

LOL.

If people hate Foster so much, why do you talk about him? You're giving him the attention that he is after. :roll:

And Elvis is still alive on an island with Harold Holt \:d/



Yeah because that is going to help the game progress in Australia. Can you please specify what is so unbelievable about what was posted? He may be saying that but if you hadn't noticed every year crowds have gotten bigger. Not to mention the fact that his paycheck comes from SBS, not the FFA...he's payed to espouse crap and attract attention to SBS, not the FFA. Don't kid yourself that he's trying to benefit the game. Craig Foster cares about one thing and one thing only...Craig Foster.




The A-League is of a rather high standard considering this is only its 3rd season, after evolving from a semi-professional league competing with various other sporting codes and having only just recently been built up from the charred remains of 50 year old ethnic wars that ruled the football landscape for years. Players like Djite, Zullo, Burns, Kruse and Milligan are all quality and we have seen with Leijer and Carney that the players can go and impress in Europe. Some drunken fools would argue that Carle should be on that list too.

We all know that those leagues would not lower there broadcasting standards to SBS's level. \:d/ \:d/

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Right... Some people on here must believe George Bush blew up the twin towers and there was never a moon landing. FFS people, some of what is being said is just ridiculous. Honestly, Fozzie is saying the standard is poor so less people will go to the game, hence FOX drop it... and then SBS pick up the scraps of what would be largely an unmarketable game...

See while maybe eventually you could convince me this is happening (on second thoughts you couldnt} it doesn't change the fact they speak the TRUTH. The A-league is of a poor standard, many many people have said that, not just Les and Fozz, nor just SBS.

Your conspiracy theory should also have them bagging out the La Liga, Bundesliga and Serie A, so they can gain those rights too.

Only, we were/are being sarcastic.

Hey, Guest, that was some article you posted there.

I agree with everything you had to say.

What some people seem to have missed is the fact that all the negative criticism targeted at the A-League and the FFA, comes from SBS and the spastics who work there.

Over the years SBS has opposed the changes that have turned the game around today. SBS was against switching the seasons to Summer and SBS fought tooth and nail to stop the old NSL clubs from amalgamating and changing their names and emblems away from ethnic symbolisms so they would be more acceptable to the wider community.

SBS had just about called David Hill a racist for trying to streamline the sport.

Wasn't it SBS and its "expert sokka commentators" who were telling everyone what a catastrophe it was for football to have all those "non-sokka" people involved with the sport as soon as the FFA and the A-League were formed?

Now "expert sokka commentators" like Craig Foster and Branco Culina are unfortunately fooling some people that they really care about the future of the game, when in fact all they care about is the future of their boss SBS. And some people believe them, which is sad.

But they are not fooling Frank Lowy and they are not fooling a lot of other users of this forum either.

That I am better than Craig Foster \:d/

Talk yourself up :roll:. Then again, you're just confirming what we all already suspect :P - oh the irony!

He had no place to attack any of them. He is only following the SBS mould though I guess. Remember Venables coaching Australia. Yeah nearly took us to a WC bar for that cock sucking serial pest.... what do SBS do... campaign to have him fired. They just want the A-League to fail so they can get their biggest rating show back on.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but there is such a thing as oversaturation, especially with such an undermining and poorly thought through opinion. It's all very well to say "The a-league isn't good enough" but he's not doing anything to improve it, and when he DOES make a suggestion, it's always foolhardy, most probably because he doesn't have ANY coahces bardges and has no idea what hes' on about. There are people on this forum who have better knowledge and better developed opinions that Craig Foster has.

Fozzie insults other countries such as England, Italy, Germany, The Netherlands, France and Hungarian acadamies but refuses to realise how these academies fit better into the Australian culture and will produce better players from this country. These players are also better team players as they come up as a unit. They learn team play and self sacrafice for the better of the team. The German, Italian, Dutch and English club sides work much better as a unit than the Spanish sides who rely on individual brilliance to carry a team (ie: Torres at Atletico Madrid or the Los Galacticos hoping that the star or in the case of Los Galacticos one of the many stars fires on the day). When was the last time you saw a Spanish team win a game on the back of a solid team performance?

The Brazilian development system puts children as young as 9 years old under immense pressure. These children literally fight for positions in the team. They go out their with the mentality that they must win and at all costs. They are brought up with a mentality that the harder they tackle the more likely they are to hamper the other players chances. This is why the disciplinary record of Brazilian players is far from perfect. Roberto Carlos was on the reciving end of more than his fair share of cards for example as were fellow fullback Emerson and Cafu. They all recieved higher than average carding.

Foster plays up the brazilians and latin americans as so brillaint, but what he fails to realise is that many of the players that we accept as "brilliant Brazilians" come from middle class ro affluent families. players like Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Liete, Ronaldo de Assís Moreira, Elano Blumer, Frederico Chaves Guedes, Antônio Augusto Ribeiro Reis Júnior are all incredible players, but they haven't had to fight tooth and nail for a way out of the lifestyle they lead. We hear about the clubs like Sao Paulo and Atletico Paranaense that belch out quality players, but clubs like Figueirense can hardly afford the fascilities they have got.

These players after coming up through the academy become egotistical and self important. Rivaldo for a start caused many a player to leave the club he was at. He had to always be the star of the show, never the bridesmade, never taking a back seat, it was always about the necessity for him to prove his brilliance rather than that of the club and the brilliance of the team working as a whole and heaven help us if someone else put in a better performance.

Also when was the last time you saw Ronaldo chase down a pass that has gone askew. He has to have the ball at his feet or chest, not his head, not for him to run onto. It has to go to him, otherwise he is not going to chase it. Exactly the same with Romario. (has he gone bald yet?). On the other hand you have strikers like Klose, Luca Toni, van Persie, Johnson, Saha and now the upcomers like Giovinco and Rossi coming out of Italy, Caroll from England, Gomez from Germany and Babel, John and even Huntelaar for The Dutch. They all have a top class workrate and will chase every ball down.


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Wow all this Fozzie bashing really makes me laugh. Everybody wants to talk about how negative he is and how much he whinges...

"This season won't be remembered for its quality of football but when crowds are up and good kids are coming through the ranks, there's always tremendous hope for the future."

Hmmmmm yes they sound exactly like the words of a man who hates the league and is conspiring to take Aussie football back to the days of the NSL so SBS can be the sole football network once again. #-o
Come on guys it would be reasonable to actually listen to someones opinion before you decide to rip into it.

Besides the only thing he 'whinges' about is that the technical quality of Aussie football isn't yet at a level where we can compete with the best on the world stage (I think most would agree with that at this stage)and that he is worried that we aren't yet going in the right direction. That is why he attacked Ange, Butcher, Arnie etc and judging from past comments made here most of us agree that those guys weren't up to scratch. I can understand why hes not everyone's cup of tea because sometimes he does get carried away but a lot of what he says is actually quite true if you really listen and don't just write him off as mad straight away.

Guest wrote:

Fossie has not even atained a junior coaching liscence. At least when Breeze speaks at the refs meetings he has the qualifications to do so. It is rather contradictory that he insults the league standard but does nothing to help it.

Fossie couldn't even improve Nerds FC when he was looking after them. They went from bad to worse and forgot the little they knew about the game by the time he finished with them.

But there's hope. Fossie is having a go at the standard of play in the A-League because there are no many negatives to find in the A-League at the moment. The crowds are huge, the tv ratings are great, Fossie must be getting frustrated trying to find issues to whinge about.

Fossie has not even atained a junior coaching liscence. At least when Breeze speaks at the refs meetings he has the qualifications to do so. It is rather contradictory that he insults the league standard but does nothing to help it.

Fossie spoke at a coaches group meeting in our area a few months back & was generally very well received - until he bagged out Arnie who I believe is seen as a former local. His passion & love for the game was obvious. His articles on youth development are worth reading.
He is filling an important role in the development of our game - "keeping the bastards honest" - he is opinionated, controversial & abrasive, isn't that what is needed for healthy debate? You can love him or hate but he is an important cog! It would be exceptionally boring without him.

8-[:-"

only when there's a chance of getting a response like that one.

Fuck you marty. You're guilty of doing exactly the same thing with that comment you hypocrit :lol:

When it suits him. If the situation doesn't warrant a response beyond an arbitrary threshold for the growth of his ego, he won't respond. But, being the tight-arse he is, that threshold is apparently very low. So, yes.

afroman do you always overule everyone else comments[-x

Caprice or Statesman, depends on the paycheck.

No politician is good enough to deserve a BMW, they're all stuck with Caprices (or whatever Holden... *waits for correction*)

Read the thread in full?? Half the fucking posts in this thread are me!! :lol:

It was a sublte allusion to the fact taht he gets paid for his opinion, i'll be more blunt next time for your benefit.

I've been told that before, but I don't like public speaking so much.

Foster aspires to technical excellence?? When did that come to be? If that were the case then he would have been a far better player.

You mean side from "The National team is doing shit...we need a better coach."...ah...no.

You do seem a little paranoid there though ton.of.bricks.

So you think Fossie aspires to technical excellence?

Why is that? You think Fossie or anybody else at SBS care about the future of the game in this country?

Is there a single time, just a single f****n time, that anyone at SBS in the days of the old NSL, expressed a view of what was wrong with the game then and how to fix it?

Do you understand the concept of, from being the exclusive "sokka station", thanks to the limited market the ethnic teams created, to being an outsider in the new football world of the A-League, really means to SBS people?

Just think: Would SBS be better off if "sokka" went back to the old NSL days, when they were the one and only football station or not? Has the A-League f****d them up completely or not?

Then remember this: Fossie works for SBS. He gets paid to be negative. Treat the spastic the way he deserves.

Just quick point on Erebus comment the crowds only go to see mariners because they are winning. They have won 1 out of 7 i think even though the last 3 mariners home games all topped each other for crowd numbers they were all losses. Punters and fans go for the excitement and enjoyment of the game which to some iws the technical excellence fossie aspire to. But for mine i think its a bit of sour grapes???

The same EPL he as head football analyst refuses to watch?

I suggest before you make 'foster' like stupid remarks, you read the thread in full.



Whats the BMW got to do with it?

Afro, you should become a politician, you would be good at it, (only showing half the picture, the half that suits your needs) you would get paid for that and may even be given a BMW with a driver.

The technical level of NSL may have been better due to the slower pace of the game back then, thats what Fozz is craving for.He hates the EPL style.

Has become a complete joke.

He became a joke back at Crystal Palace...it takes the news a little longer to filter through to some than others.

Foster "becoming" a joke.