Saying England is shit is kind of naive anyway. But that debate has been aired hundreds of times on this forum.

The thing is, Capello is a man who always got the job done, he was sacked from Madrid despite getting the job done. But with england's players, that's exactly what you need, a man who gets the job done, nothing more and nothing less. Otherwise you start opening cans of worms that are completely irrelevant.

what's all that shit on the first page about easy groups, i probably missed it but i didn't hear anyone mention italy's group

Also throw in Jones at Blackburn, who is a very young and capable defender.