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Quote:Inglis racial slur is unacceptable * By Andrew Webster, David Riccio and Peter Badel * From: The Sunday Telegraph * June 13, 2010 12:01AM ANDREW Johns last night quit the NSW Origin team after he admitted a racist sledge towards Queensland superstar Greg Inglis was behind Blues winger Timana Tahu walking out of the side. After one of Origin's most dramatic days - with NSW team management at first trying to cover up the scandal - Johns said he had no choice but to resign as assistant coach after it emerged he had sledged Tahu's long-time friend at a bonding session at a Kingscliff hotel on Wednesday night. The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Johns told Blues centre Beau Scott: "You must shut that black c... down." A repentant Johns last night said: "Two nights ago, while trying to talk up the match, I made a disparaging comment about a member of the other team and in the process referred to the colour of his skin. "I should have thought more about what I was saying about a player I have always admired and respected. I hope to speak with Greg soon to explain what happened. "It is something I deeply regret and I will do all I can to repair my friendships with both Greg and Timana and to regain the respect of those I have let down." Inglis last night branded the sledge as "personal" and the sorry episode sets up a fiery Origin II at Suncorp Stadium on Wednesday night. "Me and T knew each other way back, when I was like 15, so it's just a shock to me that came out," Inglis said. "If that's the way it was, then it will probably be personal." Tahu stewed over Johns' comments for two days until he told coach Craig Bellamy at lunchtime on Friday he was leaving.Parramatta chief executive Paul Osborne spent yesterday consoling Tahu, who spoke to Johns late yesterday but will not return to camp. "Joey said something that he thought was just some banter amongst the boys that I took offence to," Tahu said. "It is something I feel strongly about. To sacrifice my NSW Origin jumper and to give up the chance of bringing the trophy back to NSW is obviously something I gave a lot of thought to. But I felt I had to make a statement that this sort of behaviour in any environment is unacceptable and as a senior player I had to show that. "The fact that it came from someone on the coaching staff that is highly respected in the game, and has such influence in rugby league, and someone I have known for a long time, made it more hurtful. We had a good talk over the phone today and we were able to explain each other's feelings." It is understood that Tahu has been simmering over Johns' alleged racism for years, and those close to him said he'd "had enough" when he decided to walk out. It was claimed Tahu told relatives yesterday: "He [Johns] has been using this term since I was 18. I can no longer look him in the eye." NSW team management did their best to cover up the story yesterday and even told officials in Sydney that Tahu had left because of a hamstring complaint. Team sources had initially suggested that Tahu had been over-sensitive and that Johns had only referred to himself as "white trash", before it emerged later in the day that he had sledged Inglis. "NSW team management were dealing with a number of issues yesterday and were trying to get the full set of facts," NSWRL boss Geoff Carr said. "Joey gave us a full confession but didn't mention what he said." Revelations about Johns' comments enraged the Queenslanders. Asked if Aboriginal players feel there are racist elements within NSW, former Maroons star Tony Currie said: "My God, there is a feeling about that, it's not just well known, it's not just a feeling with the Koori down south, it's a fact. "Our black magic does not fit in with the philosophy of the NSW hierarchy. Johns should have been more mindful. I can't believe a person of his status would say that. I applaud Timana for taking a stand and it is NSW's loss." http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/inglis-racial-slur-is-unacceptable/story-e6frexv9-1225878945387
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avy1990
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So thats what he said.
Johns was at least telling them the truth, they have to shut the indigenous cunt down.
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Joffa
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Quote:A repentant Johns last night said: "Two nights ago, while trying to talk up the match, I made a disparaging comment about a member of the other team and in the process referred to the colour of his skin.
"I should have thought more about what I was saying about a player I have always admired and respected. I hope to speak with Greg soon to explain what happened.
"It is something I deeply regret and I will do all I can to repair my friendships with both Greg and Timana and to regain the respect of those I have let down." More spin from the NRL's resident wanker....won't be long now till the Johns is a good bloke, he's just misunderstood brigade come to his defence. He and Wayne Carey are two peas in a pod Edited by Joffa: 13/6/2010 03:08:22 PM
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avy1990
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I still like Joey.
When he's runner, he's still our best half-back on the field.
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Oh c'mon, he coulda said worse. Make sure you pop a cap in that nigga's ass....
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!
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Mundine was right all along, love him or loath him he was right that racism is still riff in the game,
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Carlito
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same thing in afl as well . the team mates are fine its just the dickhead fans who abuse the aboriginal players and even on there own team
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scouse_roar
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Sounds like the fans at every rugby league match.
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socceroossupporter
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Who cares?
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socceroossupporter wrote:Who cares? Adam Goodes cares. So do I and so should you, even if only because you're a Swans fan. Players must keep fighting racism: Goodeshttp://www.sydneyswans.com.au/tabid/7106/default.aspx?newsid=96294
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socceroossupporter
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Well, sorry to disappoint you, Adam Goodes and all the other ideological loons out there, but I couldn't give a flying frick about racism.
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Carlito
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socceroossupporter wrote:Well, sorry to disappoint you, Adam Goodes and all the other ideological loons out there, but I couldn't give a flying frick about racism. u must be white ??? try being a ethnic who had to deal with names, physical violence and the like ! i did and i more aussie than the dickheads who taunted me !! and it suprises me that u dont give a fuck about racism when u live in japan ! i wonder what will happen if u called a japanese person a nip to their face??times have changed hombre move with them or ull be stuck in the era of if ya aint white get out of my country
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
u must be white ??? try being a ethnic who had to deal with names, physical violence and the like ! i did and i more aussie than the dickheads who taunted me !!
:-({|= Quote:and it suprises me that u dont give a fuck about racism when u live in japan ! Why does it surprise you? Japan is one of the most mono racial and mono cultural places on the planet. And I think this has contributed to the low crime, unity and general cooperation in this country. Did you know that the place I work actually don't need to lock their doors and leave the place unattended for most of the day? I much prefer living in a largely monocultural society as compared to a multicultural society because I prefer a peaceful, non-chaotic environment, even if I am contributing to the problem myself a little by being here (Although I do my absolute best to fit in, and I am pretty much the only European guy in the neighbourhood). Quote:i wonder what will happen if u called a japanese person a nip to their face?? I would imagine they wouldn't do that much. Japanese people aren't really that aggressive compared to Africans and Middle-Eastern people. They don't really have the belief that the world and the country they moved to owes them something. I call my girlfriend a Nip all the time (She is Japanese. Aka. She is from 'Nippon') and she doesn't care that much. She just laughs it off, as all ethnics in Australia SHOULD but don't do. It says to me that ethnics in Australia have no self-respect or dignity when they get all upset at racial taunts. And the Aussies that come out in defense of the ethnics have a depraved 'help those who are weak at the expense of our own happiness' morality. Quote:times have changed hombre move with them or ull be stuck in the era of if ya aint white get out of my country Yeah right. :lol: 'Times have changed.' Racism will always be around no matter how many speeches you make and how many people you 'enlighten.' Sorry to break it to you, but racism is human nature. People will always recognize differences in other humans no matter what happens, whether you are a different colour, whether you are fat, whether you are bald or whether you are skinny. You may think there is no racism in Australia or around the world anymore, but this couldn't be any further from the truth. Behind closed doors, and when people aren't in FEAR (Yes, you've managed to make them stop racism out of fear, not because they WANT to) of being criticized and charged (Due to the riduculous racism laws they have in place in a so-called free society like Australia) and being themselves, people are as racist as ever. I recognize the fact that people are different because I'm being honest with myself. If you actually believe in this 'equality for all' nonsense, then you are just lying to yourself and you're lying to the ethnics you're trying to protect. People like you talk about multiculturalism and anti racism like it's the highest morality human civilization can reach, yet I am completely and utterly unconvinced of this. From what I have seen so far in my travels, the opposite is actually true.
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Carlito
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socceroos supporter i aint gonna respond to ur small minded view of the world . to leave in that world is just sad
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Carlito
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so u wnt australia to be a one race nation like it used to be huh?
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Who cares what Adam Goodes thinks? He's a fucking arrogant wanker. Played pool against him once and he had a sook because after sinking the white, I didn't put it back on the table on the line for him. :roll: Quote:People like you talk about multiculturalism and anti racism like it's the highest morality human civilization can reach, yet I am completely and utterly unconvinced of this. From what I have seen so far in my travels, the opposite is actually true. Ironically, it's racism and ethnic intollerance that inspires what you're talking about. Sadly, you're right. It's countries that have the least cultural diversity that have the least problems ie places like Japan, South Korea or Sweden have a large populace with very similar moral values and are seen to be very evolved communities on a global scale. Compared to countries with varied backrgouns like Pakistan, Sudan, the USA, Russia or Australia with a variety of ethnic origins who are socio-political minefields for political correctness, racism etc. Quote:'Times have changed.' Racism will always be around no matter how many speeches you make and how many people you 'enlighten.' Sorry to break it to you, but racism is human nature. But in 20 years, much of western society will be so inter-woven with various cultures that people won't know who to hate regardless.
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Carlito
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damn afro if i didnt know better u be a student:P
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afromanGT
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I'm not quite sure what you're on about.
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Carlito
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im saying that ur speech reminded me of a student i knew ..hence the student thing
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avy1990
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Adam Goodes is awesome, I've met him and he was very nice.
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I heard a good analogy from an old teacher the other day at school.
"If he was in frontline and someone said lets kill the Jews would he walk out? The first thing you learn in the army is never leave ur mates behind, and thats what Tahus done, hes left his mates behind and should never be picked again."
I can understand where Tahu's coming from but the political correctness in society today is remarkable. Im not condoling Johns actions but the outcry is a bit over the top.
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avy1990 wrote:Adam Goodes is awesome, I've met him and he was very nice. He was probably just shitty because we were owning him at pool :lol: Quote:"If he was in frontline and someone said lets kill the Jews would he walk out? The first thing you learn in the army is never leave ur mates behind, and thats what Tahus done, hes left his mates behind and should never be picked again." +1. It's not Tahu's place to get shitty over something that wasn't directed at him.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:so u wnt australia to be a one race nation like it used to be huh? Honestly, from a purely selfish point of view and my choice of lifestyle, I would prefer it (Admittedly though I do like a bit of Greek and Italian influence in Australia. I like East-Asian influence in moderation, they're really nice people, in particular the North East Asians). Quote:Adam Goodes is awesome, I've met him and he was very nice. I like him as a person, seems nice enough, but I disagree with almost everything he says politically.
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afromanGT wrote:
But in 20 years, much of western society will be so inter-woven with various cultures that people won't know who to hate regardless.
I actually get the impression that multiculturalism supporters and anti racists really have no idea what they're doing in regards to this. They really have no clear goals on how to actually get to this position. They always say, "oh yeah, all we need to do is throw everyone together and then after twenty years we'll be holding hands and whistling zippity doo da and spend our days together finger painting." Easy to say, but difficult in practice. They rely way too much on theory/faith and give very little attention on how to practically carry out their so-called 'noble goal.' America have had Africans living there for hundreds of years and yet they're still segregated in most parts of America. Even fifty years after Martin Luther King, white flight takes place across almost all western nations and very little integration occurs. Aesop said thousands of years ago 'birds of a feather flock together,' and it rings true even to this day. Even if you force all the third-worlders into European neighbourhoods (Which is often what western Governments do, they FORCE multiculturalism and multiracialism onto people to further their own unproven ideology), people will still formulate their own groups and will naturally form 'mini-nations' within their own nation. I can see it with my own eyes happening in Japan, I can see it happening within Australia and I can see it happening all over the World. It's not because people are 'evil,' people just like what they know and feel most comfortable. Heck, I have very few Japanese friends because I tend to drift to people who are more outgoing, speak good English and Japanese people tend to have 'in-groups' that I am never part of. I've often tried to make Japanese friends, but their friendship doesn't seem to be very deep.
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Quote:I actually get the impression that multiculturalism supporters and anti racists really have no idea what they're doing in regards to this. They really have no clear goals on how to actually get to this position. There should be a goal into mixing interracial couples by a deadline for the benefit of society? That's just stupid.
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