Oh... Doom and gloom! get a grip!! the best result we could have hoped for against the Germans was a draw. Yes, 4-0 puts our goal difference in bad shape, but FFS! We can win against Ghana, and depending on the other results a draw can see us through against Serbia! Put on some pride and stop wallowing in self pity!

Verbeek is $hit.

so kewell got picked in a team and may never play a game, whilst mcdonald is sitting at home unable to play in the formation that he loves which pim has now adopted....4-4-2.

Batfink - I somehow don't think the whole football community thinks 4-2-3-1 sux. Germany were playing a 4-2-3-1, so did The Netherlands and there are definitely a number of other top teams who played that same formation also.

It's not the formation itself that is to blame, as the Germans showed you can play extremely well in that formation.

I feel the rage too. But to be honest the only guy who is qualified to respond to what has happened is Pim and his team. My take is that logical Pim knew exactly what he was up for, he took a risk cause he had nothing to lose. At the end Pim had a bad match, his team was obedient to his design and we got smashed. Pim took a risk and it failed.
Fall forward is my philosophy. Give the coach and the team some space now and let's hope it all comes together against Ghana.:-k

Edited by Giovanni Coppola: 15/6/2010 06:42:09 PM

Pimbicle you made my son cry. You better win the next two.