so u think paying Pim the tosser 2.5 mil to have his team play like this is ok? ,id rather pay someone less to get our asses haned to us, stefcep.

I don't know why everyone's so p*ssed off.

There have been negative c*nts on this website for years slagging off the team; slagging off the players; slagging off the coach.

In fact, just hours before the World Cup kicked off, people on this site were bitching and moaning and whining and slagging off the formation Pim had used in the past.

So, my question is this - shouldn't everyone on this site be happy?

They wanted Australia to fail. And now they have.

You're C*nts (you know who you are)

I don't know why everyone's so p*ssed off.

There have been negative c*nts on this website for years slagging off the team; slagging off the players; slagging off the coach.

In fact, just hours before the World Cup kicked off, people on this site were bitching and moaning and whining and slagging off the formation Pim had used in the past.

So, my question is this - shouldn't everyone on this site be happy?

They wanted Australia to fail. And now they have.

You're C*nts (you know who you are)

Because "the told you so brigade" are bandwagoners - people who know nothing or little about football itself, but who read someone's opinion online somewhere, circulate it, and then eventually pass it off as their own opinion.

You can't even spell "Tactics", and you want me to believe that you had fundamental problems with Pim's?

Please.

Everyone who got on the anti-Pim bandwagon 12 months ago - despite an almost flawless qualification for the World Cup are c*nts.

Plain and simple.

I sure you're happy.

C'mon New Zealand, show the greatest bullshit artist to ever coach the Socceroos how wrong he was not to include some young A-League legs in the national squad, by putting on a good performance in the World Cup.

During testing done in socceroo camps it was established that there was approximately 20% variance in heart rate recovery from sub maximal activity between European and A League players. When informed of this by my good friend Darren Burgess prior to starting at Sydney FC it was one of my goals for the players to not be put in this compromising situation. It couldnt be done overnight nor in one year as the players were behind the 8 ball after the previous season. However under the guidance of Vitja and other coaching staff we have seen this variance decrease. I have seen a 12-15% improvement in our initial testing and I expect by the completion of season 2011/12 there should be no difference between our players and those in Europe. I think the problem has simply been $ and the amount of $ spent on sport science in our country. Unfortunately you get what you pay for and although our structure is not rocket science I do feel being adequately educated in the sport science field is a necessity.
This year Melbourne Heart will do well as they have good people in this field a former student and colleague of mine has taken the position there and he will do well. Victory are always close to the mark and I think others are learning that the small percentage points gained from sport science can make a difference.

And people dismiss impressive wins over Uzbekistan and the thrashing of Ireland, not to mention beating the Dutch - the then third-ranked team in the World.

Guess what, Pim was in charge then.

Mouthing off on the internet isn't "fighting the good fight".

Despite your delivery I agree with your message. Everybody on here was blowing cows over how 'rigid' and 'boring' Pim's formation is. Then when he tries to change it in a game we were never really going to win anyway everybody has a cry that he didn't stick with the boring old formation. Confusing :-s

Hopefully this loss is exactly what we needed to make Pim realise he has to drop some players and risk others (like Kewell).

Dear KA, you're entitled to your opinion, which you have presented forthrightly and sincerity. Personally I admire Pim for making the choices he made against Germany. He had the conviction, aurhority and the justification to do what he did. He's also taken responsibility. Pure and simple, we were outclassed by a better side. IF we don't make it out of our group, there's another WC in four years time, who knows, new talent might be unearthed by then and a rematch against Germany would be a tasty treat. Australia is a far better football proposition than it was in 1974, but perhaps not a lot of difference from 2006. Football is a passionate game, and there are sides that will be leaving South Africa early, to the immense disappointment of their fans. We should all be right behind Pim and his Socceroos, willing them to win their next two games. Intense criticism at this stage can only be detrimental,,,come on Australia !

The next coach needs to be one who'll work with the A-League as the base for the squad, with the best of our Europe-based guys who are playing and not injured. This puts the onus back on developing the local league which is ultimately what's in the long term interests of football in Australia.

Its so easy to lay it all down on Pim... much harder to take an honest look at our squad and performance.

Well there have been a lot of comments about Pim and the Socceroos...I dare anyone to to better though.

and so it will be after the World Cup.

Should it be the responsibility of the national coach to strengthen the domestic competition?
At the moment international league development is better than that in Australia, so the guys playing aborad should have priority.

When youth development in Australia is stronger, we can start using the A-league as a launch pad for our nationals.

The performance was down to the tactics. The tactics were naive. The result was one that anyone with a rudimentary amount of football knowledge could have predicted.