The most boring World Cup Finals to date...


The most boring World Cup Finals to date...

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Jhayward wrote:
I was as excited as anyone about this World Cup, however, as I sit at lunch watching another less than inspiring group game, I have to say that I am finding this World Cup the most boring I have ever seen.

The facts:

Prior to play today, there have been 23 goals in 14 games. That is 5 less than any other World Cup finals EVER after the same amount of games.

There were 31 at the same point in 2006 (and 8 goals in the next 2 games also).

The problems:

The ball
No doubt a good deal to blame for some of this - the players cannot control it, I don't think I have seen one quality free kick yet. The Brazilian left back hit a shot from a free kick last night that behaved in a way I don't think I have ever seen before, and I am sure Maicon's (fluke) goal was at least partly due to the ball.

Squads
We have been unlucky with injuries - Robben, Nani, Ballack, Essien, etc, but...

No Ronaldinho, Pato, or Adriano for Brazil, no Cassano for Italy, no Benzema for France, no Nick Carle for the Roos?!?!? Some of the great entertainers in World Football have simply been left out of squads. Tell me Ronaldinho wouldn't have added a bit of spark to last night's match vs North Korea.

Tactics
4-2-3-1. We are over it. The 4-1-4-1 was bad enough, but what an idea to get a second holding midfielder in there to sure up the back. It is the tactic of choice for the majority of teams at the cup, and the primary reason for fans sleeping their way through matches. Dunga should be shot for putting this style formation into play for Brazil - bring back the flair, ffs, you have the players for it. The muppet nearly got what he deserved against North Korea last night because of his team's style of play. I am holding onto hope that Spain can knock a few in today, but I have read that they too are just going with the one up-front...

The Seeding System
The real problem though, is that the less quality teams are all just trying to park the bus when they play the better opposition in their groups. Is it time for Fifa to scrap this idea of having seeded teams in the group draw? Who cares if Brazil, Argentina and France (for example) were all in the same group? Does it really matter??

If the seeding system was scrapped, we will see more open games in the group stages, at the moment every group has at least 3 out of the 6 games as tepid, defensive affairs, where the unseeded teams try to hold out for a draw against the seeded teams. If the seeding system was abolished, then more groups are open, and more games interesting and exciting.

*** EDIT - I forgot
Vuvuzelas
Ok, great for South Africa's matches and I am all for the culture and all that, but do we have to hear trumpets at every, single, fricken game? When Brazil play, I want to hear the drums, when England, the singing, when North Korea, the politically sensored applause...

Anyway, just putting it out there as I sit here in the middle of another 1-0 snore-fest between Chile and Honduras. Maybe the second half will be better.

Edited by jhayward: 16/6/2010 10:45:23 PM

Playing infront of half full stadiums WTF!
Hosts being effectively knocked out on day 6!
Favourites (spain) may not even make it out of their group!
Crime!
Protests!
This is turning into a disaster, lets see if south africa and fifa can get the trein back on the tracks.
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it's a fair analysis, even though everyone has only played their first round to date (besides SA's group this morning), it hasn't been too spunky all round, low crowds at many games and those f..king horns and some quality of play at a few games has left a lot to be desired.
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I'm on neither side here, but fuckball is about the lamest "insult" I've ever heard.
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Hank wrote:
Jhayward wrote:
Hank wrote:
You strike me as the kind of guy who whinges while you're having a root...

We're 16 games in, maybe submit the poll AT THE END!? Just sit back be happy you can watch Spain play keep-ball...


Read the poll fuckball - I asked do you think it's the most boring World Cup SO FAR?

5/6 say it is, so I guess the poll is worthwhile.


Fuckball? Now that is clever... :roll:

I'm glad I stopped reading at Nick Carle being one of the true entertainers of world football... Tosser.


Tosser? Now that is clever... :roll:

If you didn't read the post, why are you being critical of the poll?

Fuckball.
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Jhayward wrote:
Hank wrote:
You strike me as the kind of guy who whinges while you're having a root...

We're 16 games in, maybe submit the poll AT THE END!? Just sit back be happy you can watch Spain play keep-ball...


Read the poll fuckball - I asked do you think it's the most boring World Cup SO FAR?

5/6 say it is, so I guess the poll is worthwhile.


Fuckball? Now that is clever... :roll:

I'm glad I stopped reading at Nick Carle being one of the true entertainers of world football... Tosser.
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Wothout knowing goal figures (to be honest its not the most important factor when assessing a game) but Italia 90 was pretty fucking boring. Brazilian flair? Went out the window with Socrates and Zico in the 80's where by the way Brazil won fuck all, even they changed their style to be successful.
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Hank wrote:
You strike me as the kind of guy who whinges while you're having a root...

We're 16 games in, maybe submit the poll AT THE END!? Just sit back be happy you can watch Spain play keep-ball...


Read the poll fuckball - I asked do you think it's the most boring World Cup SO FAR?

5/6 say it is, so I guess the poll is worthwhile.

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You strike me as the kind of guy who whinges while you're having a root...

We're 16 games in, maybe submit the poll AT THE END!? Just sit back be happy you can watch Spain play keep-ball...
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So we are over 4-2-3-1 are we? I thought Germany played it quite brilliantly.
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Jhayward wrote:
The ball
No doubt a good deal to blame for some of this - the players cannot control it, I don't think I have seen one quality free kick yet. The Brazilian left back hit a shot from a free kick last night that behaved in a way I don't think I have ever seen before, and I am sure Maicon's (fluke) goal was at least partly due to the ball.


It's not the ball, it's the altitude. The ball was used in several leagues last year and no one complained about it.
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WTF!?! It's not even over yet!

anyways switch it to sbs radio 2(tv) and it sounds great. less vuvuzela and more crowd singing "chanting" feels great. the english station pales in comparison tho when it comes to the background noise.

If only I could hear the same thing on SBS HD TV.

The ball seems to be playing a part in the game but who cares.. its not over yet!!!

the next couple of matches coming up are surely to impress and amaze and then you've got the knock out phase!!!!

Edited by Bryan: 16/6/2010 11:16:19 PM
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yamaha wrote:
yes it definitely is boring

if Croatia qualified for South Africa, it would be an exciting world cup


I agree all bulken nations have been disappointing as a croation decendent i have to say Slovakia and Slovania are terrable and Serbia are just chockers.

Croatia is better then all three! throw greece in there as well!

DW boys th football will get better then the next round starts

Edited by Davstar: 16/6/2010 11:00:20 PM

these Kangaroos can play football - 
Ange P. (Intercontinental WC Play-offs 2017) 

KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL

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yes it definitely is boring

if Croatia qualified for South Africa, it would be an exciting world cup
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I was as excited as anyone about this World Cup, however, as I sit at lunch watching another less than inspiring group game, I have to say that I am finding this World Cup the most boring I have ever seen.

The facts:

Prior to play today, there have been 23 goals in 14 games. That is 5 less than any other World Cup finals EVER after the same amount of games.

There were 31 at the same point in 2006 (and 8 goals in the next 2 games also).

The problems:

The ball
No doubt a good deal to blame for some of this - the players cannot control it, I don't think I have seen one quality free kick yet. The Brazilian left back hit a shot from a free kick last night that behaved in a way I don't think I have ever seen before, and I am sure Maicon's (fluke) goal was at least partly due to the ball.

Squads
We have been unlucky with injuries - Robben, Nani, Ballack, Essien, etc, but...

No Ronaldinho, Pato, or Adriano for Brazil, no Cassano for Italy, no Benzema for France, no Nick Carle for the Roos?!?!? Some of the great entertainers in World Football have simply been left out of squads. Tell me Ronaldinho wouldn't have added a bit of spark to last night's match vs North Korea.

Tactics
4-2-3-1. We are over it. The 4-1-4-1 was bad enough, but what an idea to get a second holding midfielder in there to sure up the back. It is the tactic of choice for the majority of teams at the cup, and the primary reason for fans sleeping their way through matches. Dunga should be shot for putting this style formation into play for Brazil - bring back the flair, ffs, you have the players for it. The muppet nearly got what he deserved against North Korea last night because of his team's style of play. I am holding onto hope that Spain can knock a few in today, but I have read that they too are just going with the one up-front...

The Seeding System
The real problem though, is that the less quality teams are all just trying to park the bus when they play the better opposition in their groups. Is it time for Fifa to scrap this idea of having seeded teams in the group draw? Who cares if Brazil, Argentina and France (for example) were all in the same group? Does it really matter??

If the seeding system was scrapped, we will see more open games in the group stages, at the moment every group has at least 3 out of the 6 games as tepid, defensive affairs, where the unseeded teams try to hold out for a draw against the seeded teams. If the seeding system was abolished, then more groups are open, and more games interesting and exciting.

*** EDIT - I forgot
Vuvuzelas
Ok, great for South Africa's matches and I am all for the culture and all that, but do we have to hear trumpets at every, single, fricken game? When Brazil play, I want to hear the drums, when England, the singing, when North Korea, the politically sensored applause...

Anyway, just putting it out there as I sit here in the middle of another 1-0 snore-fest between Chile and Honduras. Maybe the second half will be better.

Edited by jhayward: 16/6/2010 10:45:23 PM
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