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O Pondios wrote:Song wrote:Cockerills first article was spot on the money. I cant see how anybody could argue with. As desperate as people must be for Kewell to get back to his glory days tonight and save Australia, the fact is we know it wont happen. If Australia get the result it will be because of Wilkshire, Cullina, Emerton etc...not Kewell. WE ALL KNOW THIS. Why are we so shocked to see it down on paper. Are people really questioning that Kewell is basically a myth? Cockerill mentions in the article, that he (and I am sure all of us), want Kewell to have a blinder. But he is right, his form and game time suggest it wont happen. Kewell Inc is way bigger than Kewell the player. Whats so wrong with these comments.
Its amazing that upon one loss people defend a journalist making a comment so stupid as to suggest sacking the coach after 1 game, and I note that the players didnt come rushing out against it, but when someone questions the fitness (yes he hasnt played in AGES) and form of Kewell, go forbid the journalist is evil.
I cant believe Kewell took such offence to the remarks. I think it suggests that Kewells head isnt in the right spot and Cockerill is dead on the money with the article. I just cant believe how unproferssional Kewells response was to an article, which realistically was reasonable.
All the other crap that follows is childish.
But thankyou to Cockerill for actually questioing the whole media push on Kewell. He didnt get caught up in the lime light of Harry the God, he put the facts on his form and fitness and questioned if he was the saviour. It could be worse, the 'football analyst' could of made stupid suggestions like sacking the coach one game into the world cup, or appointing a panel of ex players to choose the team. Couldn`t agree more,all the Cockerill bashing here is a little bemusing. All Mr Mandic is doing is throwing haymakers in a vain attempt to protect a rapidly fading golden egg going by the name "Kewell inc". The Cockerill bashing isn't as a result of the first article though - it's triggered by his childish response to Kewell's comments. Cockerill reacted in the manner you would expect of, erm, me on a forum, rather than that of a respected (he is, really) journalist from a national newspaper.
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aitkenmike
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Couple of things - "Totally wrong. He allowed Harry to do what ever external commercial work he needed to do while at the 2006 World Cup. No other player was allowed to do any" - Is this actually a good thing? And as already mentioned, in the greater scheme of things, "a couple of minutes" all though not technically accurate, is a fair description of how much Kewell has played this year IMO.
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O Pondios
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Song wrote:Cockerills first article was spot on the money. I cant see how anybody could argue with. As desperate as people must be for Kewell to get back to his glory days tonight and save Australia, the fact is we know it wont happen. If Australia get the result it will be because of Wilkshire, Cullina, Emerton etc...not Kewell. WE ALL KNOW THIS. Why are we so shocked to see it down on paper. Are people really questioning that Kewell is basically a myth? Cockerill mentions in the article, that he (and I am sure all of us), want Kewell to have a blinder. But he is right, his form and game time suggest it wont happen. Kewell Inc is way bigger than Kewell the player. Whats so wrong with these comments.
Its amazing that upon one loss people defend a journalist making a comment so stupid as to suggest sacking the coach after 1 game, and I note that the players didnt come rushing out against it, but when someone questions the fitness (yes he hasnt played in AGES) and form of Kewell, go forbid the journalist is evil.
I cant believe Kewell took such offence to the remarks. I think it suggests that Kewells head isnt in the right spot and Cockerill is dead on the money with the article. I just cant believe how unproferssional Kewells response was to an article, which realistically was reasonable.
All the other crap that follows is childish.
But thankyou to Cockerill for actually questioing the whole media push on Kewell. He didnt get caught up in the lime light of Harry the God, he put the facts on his form and fitness and questioned if he was the saviour. It could be worse, the 'football analyst' could of made stupid suggestions like sacking the coach one game into the world cup, or appointing a panel of ex players to choose the team. Couldn`t agree more,all the Cockerill bashing here is a little bemusing. All Mr Mandic is doing is throwing haymakers in a vain attempt to protect a rapidly fading golden egg going by the name "Kewell inc".
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MichaelB
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I am slowly starting to lose respect for Harry, never had any for Mandic. Just play the damn game and forget what Journos are writing. If he has a blinder, it is the best way to the prove the media wrong.
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Song
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Cockerills first article was spot on the money. I cant see how anybody could argue with. As desperate as people must be for Kewell to get back to his glory days tonight and save Australia, the fact is we know it wont happen. If Australia get the result it will be because of Wilkshire, Cullina, Emerton etc...not Kewell. WE ALL KNOW THIS. Why are we so shocked to see it down on paper. Are people really questioning that Kewell is basically a myth? Cockerill mentions in the article, that he (and I am sure all of us), want Kewell to have a blinder. But he is right, his form and game time suggest it wont happen. Kewell Inc is way bigger than Kewell the player. Whats so wrong with these comments.
Its amazing that upon one loss people defend a journalist making a comment so stupid as to suggest sacking the coach after 1 game, and I note that the players didnt come rushing out against it, but when someone questions the fitness (yes he hasnt played in AGES) and form of Kewell, go forbid the journalist is evil.
I cant believe Kewell took such offence to the remarks. I think it suggests that Kewells head isnt in the right spot and Cockerill is dead on the money with the article. I just cant believe how unproferssional Kewells response was to an article, which realistically was reasonable.
All the other crap that follows is childish.
But thankyou to Cockerill for actually questioing the whole media push on Kewell. He didnt get caught up in the lime light of Harry the God, he put the facts on his form and fitness and questioned if he was the saviour. It could be worse, the 'football analyst' could of made stupid suggestions like sacking the coach one game into the world cup, or appointing a panel of ex players to choose the team.
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Benjamin wrote:Getting very childish.
Funny that he thinks Kewell playing a whole 52 minutes of football since Christmas constitutes something worth mentioning though. Was thinking exactly that. Clearly he is upset at Mike Cockerill.
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Hey cockbreath!!! Stick to the kiwi's and leave the socceroos alone, u cock.
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Cant believe Mandic thought that it was worth replying at all.
But now that he has, I hope they keep it up. Funny stuff!!! And we all know that Harry plays better when he feels he needs to prove something.
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Damo Baresi
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"Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".Greg King
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference". Mark Twain
Bernie Mandic & Harry shouldn't have dignified it with a response but their reply gives the spat legs.( not twat).
Edited by Damo Baresi: 19/6/2010 01:35:54 AM
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"I'm a dickhead!" "I'm a bigger dickhead!" "No you're not!" "Yes I am!"
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Benjamin
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Getting very childish.
Funny that he thinks Kewell playing a whole 52 minutes of football since Christmas constitutes something worth mentioning though.
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Joffa
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Looks like the gloves are off...
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Quote: 'It must feel good to be even beyond papal infallibility' June 19, 2010 DEAR Mr Cockerill, There is nothing that Harry and I are more impressed with than a man who stands behind every single word that he has written. It must feel good to be even beyond papal infallibility. Only one problem, or nine to be precise, with your grand stand: On 16 June, 2010 you wrote that, ''Guus Hiddink never indulged Kewell''. Totally wrong. He allowed Harry to do what ever external commercial work he needed to do while at the 2006 World Cup. No other player was allowed to do any. Advertisement: Story continues below On 16 June, 2010 you wrote that Harry ''can't even complete a proper warm-up with the other players''. Totally wrong and without a shred of factual evidence to support your claim. On 1 June, 2010 in your opening paragraph you wrote that Harry's paymasters are Channel Nine. Totally wrong and without a shred of factual evidence to support your claim. He has no Nine deal and has not had one since 2007. Over the last month you have repeatedly stated that Harry has played ''only a couple of minutes of football since Christmas''. Totally wrong and without a shred of factual evidence to support your claim but you keep on repeating it. He has played 52 minutes. Considering that football is a game of numerous statistics and percentages I would have thought you might consider being out by 2500 per cent as a significant error. At the end of June, 2008 you wrote that Harry was signing with Roma. Totally wrong and without a shred of factual evidence to support your claim. At the end of October, 2007 you wrote that Harry was a ''fringe'' player and that ''it's on the cards'' he would be coming back to Sydney FC. Over two and a half years later, you are still totally wrong and not a shred of factual evidence to support your claim. In mid-February 2007 you wrote that Harry was in the last year of his contract and that Liverpool were looking to get rid of him. Totally wrong and without a shred of factual evidence to support your claim. At the time he had more than a year left on his contract and Liverpool never put him on the market. The week before the Japan game in June, 2006 you wrote that Kewell's World Cup spot was in jeopardy due to his Channel Nine deal. Totally wrong and without a shred of factual evidence to support your claim. He did every Nine request. Today you wrote that I told you, ''the football media was a joke, utterly irrelevant''. Again you are playing with the truth. Not only is the location of the conversation wrong but you have conveniently left out that I was speaking specifically about Australian newspaper journalists that cover soccer and quoted what Rupert Murdoch said about newspapers in general - ''Only 9 per cent [of the people] describe us as trustworthy, a scant 8 per cent find us useful, and only 4 per cent think we're entertaining (14 May, 2005).'' Standing behind every single word would be very impressive if your word actually stood for anything more than vindictive fantasy. Yours sincerely, Bernard Mandic http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/it-must-feel-good-to-be-even-beyond-papal-infallibility-20100618-ymq7.html Edited by Joffa: 19/6/2010 12:34:34 AM
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