Another indefensible error adds to case for video technology


Another indefensible error adds to case for video technology

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Argentina v Mexico: another indefensible error adds to case for video technology
Sepp Blatter can remove Mexico from his list of places to visit this summer. The case for technology has irate advocates in Central America as well as in England.

Kevin Garside

By Kevin Garside
Published: 9:59PM BST 27 Jun 2010

Mexico - Argentina v Mexico: another indefensible error adds to case for video technology
Unhappy: Mexico's players protest following Carlos Tevez's opening goal, in which the Argetine striker was clearly offside at the time of scoring Photo: GETTY IMAGES

The ugly scenes that marred this occasion as the teams left the field at half time are on the conscience of world football’s governing body, Fifa, as much as the Mexicans protesting to the referee over a goal that was illegal.

It might be that Mexico would have fallen at this stage anyway but that does not justify Fifa’s refusal to consider the obvious. Carlos Tevez was two yards the wrong side of the defensive line when Lionel Messi clipped the ball towards him. His headed goal that gave Argentina the lead in a scrappy game of hitherto few chances, was illegitimate because he was active, yet it stood.

Against Germany in Bloemfontein, Frank Lampard scored a legitimate goal that didn’t. Both were avoidable errors that hammer away at the integrity of the game. England fell apart, Mexico never recovered. Within minutes right back Ricardo Osario played the ball into the path of Gonzalo Higuain on the edge of the Mexico box. Have that one on me, Gonzolo, Osario might have said. Higuain did and the game was over.

The linesman in Bloemfontein had some excuse since he could not travel at the speed of the ball and was unable to determine that Lampard’s rocket had come down off the bar behind the line. Here the official was almost in line with Tevez and made a grave error, one that cameras would have corrected at the press of a button and an injustice righted.

Oh no, says Blatter, since a decision has to be made by somebody why not let it stand with the referee. Besides, he adds, the game is about controversy. It needs its talking points. Well it has another now. The truth, Sir, is that the officials are not always in a position to judge. That the camera lens is not always the answer is no argument against its use. It only has to be one per cent better to make a difference. If the camera can’t decide then the referee’s decision stands. If it can then the referee says thank you very much and the game proceeds with justice done.

Blatter is making himself and the organisation he represents look ridiculous. It is not as if a fixture featuring the grand dame of touchline drama, Diego Armando Maradona needs a competing storyline. As the players gathered in the tunnel Maradona went down the line kissing each of them on the cheek, a Latin ritual that was followed by another in the centre circle when Manchester United’s new signing Javier Hernandez sank to his knees to commune with God. Why he didn’t just shake his hand is a mystery. Maradona is not hard to find. Follow the photographers is the usual rule of thumb.

The coaching ensemble he leads looks like it was picked from the cast of Goodfellas, all slicked back hair and crumpled faces, not obvious hosts for ideas. But at least there is life in this Argentina team, a side that pivots around the remarkable Lionel Messi. His first two touches saw him brutalised in the tackle, his third required the keeper to be on his toes to keep out a typically inventive chip.

The treatment meted out to Messi and his ilk is another item FIFA might want to add to their list of issues to address when the tournament is over. The default reaction of defenders to Messi is to go through the player regardless. Argentina have sauntered into the quarter-finals without a goal from him yet. Tevez provided the flourish last night with a strike that cheered adidas, the manufacturers of the maligned Jabulani ball, as much as him. There was little wrong either with the flight of the consolation scored by Hernandez.

This side of the World Cup draw heads next to Cape Town on Saturday, where Argentina meet Germany for a place in the semi-finals. None can complain that the best two teams did not progress in Bloemfontein and Johannesburg. The pity is that both games bore the stain of an unnecessary injustice.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/teams/argentina/7858045/Argentina-v-Mexico-another-indefensible-error-adds-to-case-for-video-technology.html

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I always thought this WC was going to be a good place to bring in some basic assistance for refs, but obviously Sepp sees things otherwise. Now I think the tide has turned globally. The debate has gone from whether or not to use video, to how best to implement the change. EG:

http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/video-games-is-it-time-for-football-to-embrace-technology.html

Best thing IMHO is a three-man panel who examine videos from all angles before delivering a verdict, with the ref having the option to make his own decision or ask the panel for help. Yeah, NRL style. If the ref is not 100% sure, he should signal for assistance.

Time some clever national federation started making its own pioneering moves in this direction????
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No technology. Our game cannot be slowed. Germany would not have scored 2 goals on counter last night. Sydney FC would not have scored against MVFC in the final last season.

The game is beautiful as it is, and I think the refereeing has been pretty good, aside from last night's offside goal and Lampard's effort. But neither would have changed the result. Germany are playing champagne football, as are Argentina. What a quarter final it will be!
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Don't bother with video technology just add another assistant referee behind the goal line each end. No Henry hand ball goals, no dives and no Lampard disallowed goals. Simple... and it keeps the game flowing.
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Edited by gyfox: 28/6/2010 10:48:20 AM
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For WC Euro Champs etc 4assistants half pitch each/thats 2 each side,easier for a linesman to cover half a field and keep up with play.....can still live without technology imo.

Edited by M.L.: 28/6/2010 10:55:19 AM

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Gyfox wrote:
Don't bother with video technology just add another assistant referee behind the goal line each end. No Henry hand ball goals, no dives and no Lampard disallowed goals. Simple... and it keeps the game flowing.


THIS plus infinity!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is such a simple solution and keeps it flowing.

Shit, even ALF doesn't have video referrals, they have extra umps to try and cover all angles.

It should be the same here. In instances like this the decision has to be made on the spot.

What the FIFA should also be doing is reviewing refs yellow/red decisions.

Sick of seeing tackles (like the one on Bresh against Ghana) only getting a yellow when it should have been a red, the Cahill tackle, that was borderline etc. Get the decisions right.

I thought there should be a natural course of justice. If the ref has cocked it up then the correct punishment needs to be dished out.




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Gyfox wrote:
Don't bother with video technology just add another assistant referee behind the goal line each end. No Henry hand ball goals, no dives and no Lampard disallowed goals. Simple... and it keeps the game flowing.


+1

The disadvantage of "Video Ref" is that the game will slow down, or need to be stopped. With a fixed official at each Goal Line, the "troublesome" area will be covered, hopefully freeing up the Referee and Linesmen to focus on more specified areas of the pitch.
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Never with the technology. Clearly we need to upgrade our Refereeing programmes and perhaps add another assistant behind goal or another on each flank but Video does not always get the angle of what is needed.

Football is beautiful because on the day it comes down to the humans involved. Sure they get it wrong and can cause a lot of controversy but this is the talk that keeps the game alive in the off season.
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I agree with Gyfox big no to video referal's it would slow things down too much and even with technology it is still not perfect would hate to see the game stoped for several minutes while someone looks at countless replays, also it could get to the stage that refs are scared to make even the basic of decision for fear of getting it wrong refering just about everything to a replay. On the other hand I think that goal line officials are a must
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Gyfox wrote:
Don't bother with video technology just add another assistant referee behind the goal line each end. No Henry hand ball goals, no dives and no Lampard disallowed goals. Simple... and it keeps the game flowing.


What about doubtful second yellows and straight reds away from the third assistant behind the goal? IMO second yellows and straight red should be automatically sent for video review, as should penalties. The ref and linesman-not the players or coaches-should have the option to ask for a video review in limited circumstances-such as doubt on offside that leads to a goal, or if the official simply "didn't see" if the ball fully crossed the goal line, which the official could admit too without any fear of blame.

Edited by stefcep: 28/6/2010 12:31:35 PM
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Why pick on second yellows... the first one might be the one that was wrong. If any incident is going to be reviewed every incident should be reviewed.

On another point, I had to laugh at the commentator who continued to have a shot at the assistant referee for being behind the play. He was 15m out from the behind line and in line with the last defender as he should have been when the shot was taken.
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I never used to think so, but in all honesty, i'm being wooed over to the 'Yes' side. Ia think especially in the recent Germany game against England it should be used - FFS they have cameras in the net's now. That's basically all you need, the technology is there, it can be placed whereever you want it too - they have net cameras, haven't FIFA ever thought, Hmmmm mabey we should be using those for contrversial descisions.

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Gyfox wrote:
Don't bother with video technology just add another assistant referee behind the goal line each end. No Henry hand ball goals, no dives and no Lampard disallowed goals. Simple... and it keeps the game flowing.


Yeah have 2 down each side and allow one of them to come onto the goal line side and use the other one for offsides and what not. Perfect

Video tech deosnt suit soccer. We still time the game off the referees watch rather than a timekeeper.
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