Denis Law
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I'm disappointed that the World's media have not attached Manuel Neuer in the same way that they did Thierry Henry. This goalkeeper has got away with the worst cheating so far in the World Cup and yet he has escaped with little or no criticism. He is just as culpable as the linesman. I hope that in the years to come that the English fans will target him with banners and chants every time he comes up against an English team in the ECL/Europa Cup/European Nations Cup/World Cup.
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How many of us could say we wouldn't do exactly the same thing in his position?
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afromanGT
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Careful imno, this is another one of those whiney bitch englishman bleeding heart threads.
If it were David James that had done it, they'd be praising him.
Edited by afromanGT: 30/6/2010 03:58:37 PM
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Mickyroo
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Meh
When have you ever seen a keeper stop play to tell the ref it was a goal? Its not his job and if the flag stays down its play on.
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Hank
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Denis Law wrote:I'm disappointed that the World's media have not attached Manuel Neuer in the same way that they did Thierry Henry. This goalkeeper has got away with the worst cheating so far in the World Cup and yet he has escaped with little or no criticism. He is just as culpable as the linesman. I hope that in the years to come that the English fans will target him with banners and chants every time he comes up against an English team in the ECL/Europa Cup/European Nations Cup/World Cup. I thought this was a thread about Ronaldo??? Seriously tho, it's done and dusted. My parents are English and I don't think this could've happened to a nicer team... :-# afromanGT wrote:If it were David James that had done it, they'd be praising him. Spot on...
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Denis Law
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Afro, I can't remember a time when any England supporters were praising David James.
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LFC.
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Mickyroo wrote:Meh
When have you ever seen a keeper stop play to tell the ref it was a goal? Its not his job and if the flag stays down its play on. Spot on, your taught play till you hear the whistle is blown ! I really thought this thread was about the "actors" getting away with academy awards.
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earlier this season the ball crossed the line at 0-0 and the goal wasn't given against our team, the opposition were furious and our keeper and i admitted that the ball had in fact gone over the line and the descision was overturned, although it was only a pre-seaon...
there is no way you can compare henry with this, henry intentially hand-balled it, neuer never set out for the ref to make the wrong descision, he may of known it was over the line and didn't admit it but there is no way you can mention this and henry's handball in the same breath.
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martyB
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...but the ball didn't cross the line.
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afromanGT
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Denis Law wrote:Afro, I can't remember a time when any England supporters were praising David James. That's beside the point. My point was, if it was an english keeper, England would have been praising him.
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Denis Law
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afromanGT wrote:Denis Law wrote:Afro, I can't remember a time when any England supporters were praising David James. That's beside the point. My point was, if it was an english keeper, England would have been praising him. No they wouldn't. You obviously know nothing of the English press. Unbelievable though it may seem to people such as yourself, vestiges of the fair play ideal do remain in England. Cheating to win is still frowned upon.
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martyB wrote:...but the ball didn't cross the line.  :lol:
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Hank
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Mate, you are dreaming if there was a keeper ANYWHERE, let alone at The World Cup that would've said its gone in... Maybe not the point, but I think you're being a little melodramatic with the title of the thread.
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Denis Law
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Hank wrote:Mate, you are dreaming if there was a keeper ANYWHERE, let alone at The World Cup that would've said its gone in... Maybe not the point, but I think you're being a little melodramatic with the title of the thread. So you're saying he isn't a cheat ?
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You can say Tevez is just a big a cheat as the keeper is tbh....
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Hank
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Denis Law wrote:Hank wrote:Mate, you are dreaming if there was a keeper ANYWHERE, let alone at The World Cup that would've said its gone in... Maybe not the point, but I think you're being a little melodramatic with the title of the thread. So you're saying he isn't a cheat ? I think it is a little more grey than that, but at risk of not sitting on the fence; actually, yes. I am saying he isn't a cheat...
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martyB
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Hank wrote:Denis Law wrote:Hank wrote:Mate, you are dreaming if there was a keeper ANYWHERE, let alone at The World Cup that would've said its gone in... Maybe not the point, but I think you're being a little melodramatic with the title of the thread. So you're saying he isn't a cheat ? I think it is a little more grey than that, but at risk of not sitting on the fence; actually, yes. I am saying he isn't a cheat... Actually, what you said implies they (keepers) are ALL cheats - which is not inaccurate. This is as much of the game as diving is. Honesty in sport went out the window once people starting paying athletes.
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Denis Law
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Hank wrote:Denis Law wrote:Hank wrote:Mate, you are dreaming if there was a keeper ANYWHERE, let alone at The World Cup that would've said its gone in... Maybe not the point, but I think you're being a little melodramatic with the title of the thread. So you're saying he isn't a cheat ? I think it is a little more grey than that, but at risk of not sitting on the fence; actually, yes. I am saying he isn't a cheat... That says something about you.
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Hank
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martyB wrote:Hank wrote:Denis Law wrote:Hank wrote:Mate, you are dreaming if there was a keeper ANYWHERE, let alone at The World Cup that would've said its gone in... Maybe not the point, but I think you're being a little melodramatic with the title of the thread. So you're saying he isn't a cheat ? I think it is a little more grey than that, but at risk of not sitting on the fence; actually, yes. I am saying he isn't a cheat... Actually, what you said implies they (keepers) are ALL cheats - which is not inaccurate. This is as much of the game as diving is. Honesty in sport went out the window once people starting paying athletes. I actually didn't mean it like that, but reading it back, it does look like that... But, I still don't think he cheated...
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Hank
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Denis Law wrote:Hank wrote:Denis Law wrote:Hank wrote:Mate, you are dreaming if there was a keeper ANYWHERE, let alone at The World Cup that would've said its gone in... Maybe not the point, but I think you're being a little melodramatic with the title of the thread. So you're saying he isn't a cheat ? I think it is a little more grey than that, but at risk of not sitting on the fence; actually, yes. I am saying he isn't a cheat... That says something about you. :-({|= Yep, I would've done the same thing... I suppose you o:) would've kicked it back and said nice finish Fat Frank... Edit: And if you think you would've; you're having a laugh... Edited by Hank: 30/6/2010 05:52:54 PMEdited by Hank: 30/6/2010 05:55:53 PM
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Denis Law
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davidtorres wrote:You can say Tevez is just a big a cheat as the keeper is tbh.... Totally different. Tevez MAY have thought he was on side and could definitely argue he thought he was. The keeper saw it was way over the line and chose to continue.
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afromanGT
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Denis Law wrote:afromanGT wrote:Denis Law wrote:Afro, I can't remember a time when any England supporters were praising David James. That's beside the point. My point was, if it was an english keeper, England would have been praising him. No they wouldn't. You obviously know nothing of the English press. Unbelievable though it may seem to people such as yourself, vestiges of the fair play ideal do remain in England. Cheating to win is still frowned upon. I didn't mention the press. I was talking about the fans. Fuck off you wouldn't be celebrating if the shoe had been on the other foot, knocking out the germans.
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afromanGT
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Denis Law wrote:davidtorres wrote:You can say Tevez is just a big a cheat as the keeper is tbh.... Totally different. Tevez MAY have thought he was on side and could definitely argue he thought he was. The keeper saw it was way over the line and chose to continue. When you're a striker, you know EXACTLY where the last defender is. Especially when he's marking you. Tevez would have known he was offside.
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afromanGT wrote:Denis Law wrote:davidtorres wrote:You can say Tevez is just a big a cheat as the keeper is tbh.... Totally different. Tevez MAY have thought he was on side and could definitely argue he thought he was. The keeper saw it was way over the line and chose to continue. When you're a striker, you know EXACTLY where the last defender is. Especially when he's marking you. Tevez would have known he was offside. Tevez did know he was offside, he admitted it. But you can't call the German keeper and Tevez dirty, they did what anyone would do. You have a go at the ref/linesman not the player.
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afromanGT
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Exactly. This thread is just a bleeding heart englishman having a sook. Nothing to it at all.
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Denis Law
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I truly did not realise how dead the Corinthian Spirit was in this country.
Don't cry for me Joga Bonito.
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not much that can be done now. i wish more of these Fair Play examples could be done in the more mordern game... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWdf5ZLbtYo
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afromanGT
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Denis Law wrote:I truly did not realise how dead the Corinthian Spirit was in this country.
Don't cry for me Joga Bonito. You stop and tell us all, in your own words and in plain english that you would honestly stop and tell the referee that the ball crossed the line if you were in Neuer's shoes.
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I can't believe that this thread was created. Neither Neuer nor Tevez cheated. The officials were just incompetent. Move on.
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