Why it's called football, not soccer - CRAIG FOSTER


Why it's called football, not soccer - CRAIG FOSTER

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Gyfox wrote:
I am all for calling the game Football but Soccer was the round ball game game played in this country before the "effnicks", as some one put, it came. It didn't have negative connotations, it acquired them for whatever reasons during the mid 20th century. Changing the official name by which the game is to be referred to in this country is not the reason why the game is having a resurgence. That is happening because there has been a change in management structure and a recasting of the national expression of the game. We could still call it Soccer and it would make no difference to that resurgence. Foz should stop making mountains out of molehills and devote his time to a renewal of how football is portrayed by SBS. Maybe it is time to bury the dinosaurs of which he is one and bring SBS into the 21st century.

Basic semiotics as taught to ESL students describe the foot or feet as the things at the end of your legs - ( points down ).
Much the same with ball ( picture book "B" is for Beachball, Basketball, Cricketball, golfball etc........spherical objects " the earth was formed as a molten ball cooled "
Therefore to confuse English learners with some mythical ideal - soccer - is just re-inforcing superiority through language = pathetic x 10.

My father-in-law whose native language was Dutch lived in this country for 40 years but was eternally confused with the assortment of names for trousers - eg Jeans, slacks, trackydaks etc...
So I agree with Foster that following etymological principles it is called football, and if Aussie-rules or League lovers wish to call it soccer because of their own understanding of verbal and graphical communication skill it is their problem, as has been stated in this thread they usually know and are just using it to somehow claim superiority.

Edited by redcup: 8/8/2010 04:28:04 PM
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redcup wrote:
Gyfox wrote:
I am all for calling the game Football but Soccer was the round ball game game played in this country before the "effnicks", as some one put, it came. It didn't have negative connotations, it acquired them for whatever reasons during the mid 20th century. Changing the official name by which the game is to be referred to in this country is not the reason why the game is having a resurgence. That is happening because there has been a change in management structure and a recasting of the national expression of the game. We could still call it Soccer and it would make no difference to that resurgence. Foz should stop making mountains out of molehills and devote his time to a renewal of how football is portrayed by SBS. Maybe it is time to bury the dinosaurs of which he is one and bring SBS into the 21st century.

Basic semiotics as taught to ESL studebts describe the foot or feet as the things at the end of your legs - ( points down ).
Much the same with ball ( picture book "B" is for Beachball, Basketball, Cricketball, golfball etc........spherical objects " the earth was formed as a molten ball cooled "
Therefore to confuse English learners with some mythical ideal - soccer - is just re-inforcing superiority through language = pathetic x 10.

My father-in-law whose native language was Dutch lived in this country for 40 years but was eternally confused with the assortment of names for trousers - eg Jeans, slacks, trackydaks etc...
So I agree with Foster that it following etymological principles it is called football, and if Aussie-rules or League lovers wish to call it soccer because of their own understanding of verbal and graphical communication skill and it is their problem, as has been stated in this thread they usually know and are just using it to somehow claim superiority.


Its actually quite easy to simplify ity, as it already is, as AFL and NRL people call their sports by the yobbo slang term of Footy :) We can hold onto Football with no issue at all.
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redcup wrote:
Gyfox wrote:
I am all for calling the game Football but Soccer was the round ball game game played in this country before the "effnicks", as some one put, it came. It didn't have negative connotations, it acquired them for whatever reasons during the mid 20th century. Changing the official name by which the game is to be referred to in this country is not the reason why the game is having a resurgence. That is happening because there has been a change in management structure and a recasting of the national expression of the game. We could still call it Soccer and it would make no difference to that resurgence. Foz should stop making mountains out of molehills and devote his time to a renewal of how football is portrayed by SBS. Maybe it is time to bury the dinosaurs of which he is one and bring SBS into the 21st century.

Basic semiotics as taught to ESL students describe the foot or feet as the things at the end of your legs - ( points down ).
Much the same with ball ( picture book "B" is for Beachball, Basketball, Cricketball, golfball etc........spherical objects " the earth was formed as a molten ball cooled "
Therefore to confuse English learners with some mythical ideal - soccer - is just re-inforcing superiority through language = pathetic x 10.

My father-in-law whose native language was Dutch lived in this country for 40 years but was eternally confused with the assortment of names for trousers - eg Jeans, slacks, trackydaks etc...
So I agree with Foster that following etymological principles it is called football, and if Aussie-rules or League lovers wish to call it soccer because of their own understanding of verbal and graphical communication skill it is their problem, as has been stated in this thread they usually know and are just using it to somehow claim superiority.

Edited by redcup: 8/8/2010 04:28:04 PM


The term "soccer" was not invented to put other versions of football down. It was used from the late C19th as a common abbreviation of association which in English old school became soccer just as rugby became rugger.
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