Fantasy A-League - Transfer window pg 120/121.


Fantasy A-League - Transfer window pg 120/121.

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Gooner4life_8 wrote:
if i have not broken any rules then as zimbos said in signing the player, why should said player be taken away from me?

zimbos is talking crap... the argument over the 6 oclock thing is endless, because afro seems adamant, while others protest about it, two school's of thought over it... what are we counting by the time we submit or when it's posted?... also i wouldn't say he should be taken away from you, he doesn't have any clear ownership, i think if anything scouse can claim more ownership than you

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The Doctor wrote:
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but gooner himself said it took 5-10 seconds... im not stating the 2 seconds is applicable to apply to this but it's something to take into hand... the arguement isn't wether he post in time, he obviously click post when the window was open but the arguement is over the interpretation of the rules


fair enough, so Gooner hasnt broken any rules then.


if that is the case, is he not entitled to the player. The messenger was slow in getting to FFA headquarters and its not really the clubs fault.


well you might say it is because gooner didn't take that into account when posting... i don't think we should go by gooner or by anybody's hearsay in submitting a bid because then it becomes unreliable


take what into account?

you ran the post test. im assuming that on 2 seconds min delay, even 2 seconds would put him within the right time.
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just looking at the quote in the doc's sig

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You better lawyer up, asshole, because I'm not coming back for the 34%. I'm coming back for everything!


:lol:

zimbos, you're my lawyer for this case :p
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:
just looking at the quote in the doc's sig

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You better lawyer up, asshole, because I'm not coming back for the 34%. I'm coming back for everything!


:lol:

zimbos, you're my lawyer for this case :p

weird thing is i think i did that sig before the whole thing happened, quotes from this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j2r_TgsXhE

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No one gets him.
We can make them both pissed off
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if i lose akinfeev i demand compensation :p
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buddha69 wrote:
No one gets him.
We can make them both pissed off

we cut the player in half ;) ... co-ownership like they have in seria a?
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The Doctor wrote:
Gooner4life_8 wrote:
if i have not broken any rules then as zimbos said in signing the player, why should said player be taken away from me?

zimbos is talking crap... the argument over the 6 oclock thing is endless, because afro seems adamant, while others protest about it, two school's of thought over it... what are we counting by the time we submit or when it's posted?... also i wouldn't say he should be taken away from you, he doesn't have any clear ownership, i think if anything scouse can claim more ownership than you

Edited by The Doctor: 27/10/2010 06:01:32 PM


so if say arsenal submitted a transfer deal done thingo at 5:59 and the FA only received it at 6:00. would the FA reject it or approve it. Arsenal did everything before the time, but its the delay in the message that does not allow for it to show that way.

the way the deadline can be interpreted in this case leaves room for this transfer to be legit. afro has approved which means as of now Igor is in Tassie.

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just looking at the quote in the doc's sig

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You better lawyer up, asshole, because I'm not coming back for the 34%. I'm coming back for everything!


zimbos, you're my lawyer for this case


lucky for you my brother is actually a qualified solicitor.

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The Doctor wrote:
co-ownership like they have in seria a?


could work actually, some how!?

or not :(
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zimbos_05 wrote:
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just looking at the quote in the doc's sig

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You better lawyer up, asshole, because I'm not coming back for the 34%. I'm coming back for everything!


zimbos, you're my lawyer for this case


lucky for you my brother is actually a qualified solicitor.


see, the lawyer's brother is in my favour, i win

/case :p
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imnofreak wrote:
Mack, you obviously didn't read my post in full. If you choose to use the time that the bid was posted as the deciding time, then i don't think it should count. What I was saying, though, is that he could use the time the bid was submitted, which was prior to deadline.

Whatever, lets just note on.


Ah.

In that case. No.

The "bid" is comprised of the entire bid process:
*Choosing the player to bid on.
*Creating the post.
*Deciding what price to bid for.
*Submitting that bid.
*Confirmation of the bid when it appears in the forum topic.

A 'submitted' bid is not a complete bid.

Otherwise I could just wait until the deadline closes, post up 5/10 seconds later and just say the browser took too long to 'confirm' the bid, or timed out, and that it was just a co-incidence that I managed to up the bids by 100k. But since a 'submission' would be considered valid, then all my bids would be considered valid even if the proof of the confirmed forum post doesn't exist.

It's Gooner's responsibility to get his bids in on time. He should've made the bid 5/10/20 seconds earlier.

Instead, he tried to be cute, and it backfired.

So far:
*We have proven that the bid deadline was 'until 6pm'.
*The first second in a minute is the second between :00 and :01
*The last second in a minute is the second that starts at :59 seconds. Once that second ends, the minute is complete, the next minute starts, and when that minute is the 59th minute in an hour, a new hour starts.
*That 6pm starts at 6:00:00, not 6:00:01
*Thus, the deadline of 'until 6pm' closes at 6:00:00, not after.
*A complete bid is comprised of a series of steps that ends with the confirmation of the bid as it is placed into the forum and topic, not the submission of the bid with the server.
*Gooner may have submitted his bid before the deadline, but the confirmation of the bid on the forum topic was at 6:00:00, which we have shown is after the deadline closes.

Gooner had ample opportunity to submit and confirm a bid before the deadline passed.

Instead, he chose to cut it extremely fine.

The bid was confirmed on the forum at 6:00:00.

6:00:00 is after the deadline.

Gooner has no right to the player.

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He had 4 or 5 days to submit a bid or something.

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zimbos_05 wrote:
so if say arsenal submitted a transfer deal done thingo at 5:59 and the FA only received it at 6:00. would the FA reject it or approve it. Arsenal did everything before the time, but its the delay in the message that does not allow for it to show that way.

the way the deadline can be interpreted in this case leaves room for this transfer to be legit. afro has approved which means as of now Igor is in Tassie.


where not dealing with Arshavin and Arsenal where they were nailing out personal terms when the actual transfer fee had been agreed an hour earlier, Gooner had one thing to do, Arsenal had a number of things... you can't just think in your head, yeah i'm gunna make a bid for whoever and because of that it constitutes a bid in this game, what constitutes a bid is a post, and you can only go by the time of the post to go by it, otherwise there are too many outside factors such as your own internet speed, the 442 server, and your own computer (my computer often just gets confused because i've got so many apps open at once it slows down the operating speed) which can determine the time you hit post... the 442 clock is the only reliable source that you can take
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is this not the most epic argument in 442 history :lol:
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macktheknife wrote:
imnofreak wrote:
Mack, you obviously didn't read my post in full. If you choose to use the time that the bid was posted as the deciding time, then i don't think it should count. What I was saying, though, is that he could use the time the bid was submitted, which was prior to deadline.

Whatever, lets just note on.


Ah.

In that case. No.

It's Gooner's responsibility to get his bids in on time. He should've made the bid 5/10/20 seconds earlier.

Instead, he tried to be cute, and it backfired.


exactly and the space time continuum is slapping him in the face for it now
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i'll give the lot of you a free player of mine each if you just shut up and decide to back me instead of scouse ;)
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why cant you all let it be.

Afro has approved it as their is a loophole in the interpretation of the deadline time.

from the next transfer period we will know for sure. right now, Gooner was lucky. he has been approved by the FFA, the only board who can stop it is FIFA.
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:
i'll give the lot of you a free player of mine each if you just shut up and decide to back me instead of scouse ;)


i need a good striker. :d
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just making sure, you do realise this isn't real zimbos? it's not called 'fantasy' football for nothing :lol:
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zimbos wrote:
i need a good striker. :d


yeah, but you're already backing me aren't you!?

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Posting again in case anyone missed it.

imnofreak wrote:
Mack, you obviously didn't read my post in full. If you choose to use the time that the bid was posted as the deciding time, then i don't think it should count. What I was saying, though, is that he could use the time the bid was submitted, which was prior to deadline.

Whatever, lets just note on.


Ah.

In that case. No.

The "bid" is comprised of the entire bid process:
*Choosing the player to bid on.
*Creating the post.
*Deciding what price to bid for.
*Submitting that bid.
*Confirmation of the bid when it appears in the forum topic.

A 'submitted' bid is not a complete bid.

Otherwise I could just wait until the deadline closes, post up 5/10 seconds later and just say the browser took too long to 'confirm' the bid, or timed out, and that it was just a co-incidence that I managed to up the bids by 100k. But since a 'submission' would be considered valid, then all my bids would be considered valid even if the proof of the confirmed forum post doesn't exist.

It's Gooner's responsibility to get his bids in on time. He should've made the bid 5/10/20 seconds earlier.

Instead, he tried to be cute, and it backfired.

So far:
*We have proven that the bid deadline was 'until 6pm'.
*The first second in a minute is the second between :00 and :01
*The last second in a minute is the second that starts at :59 seconds. Once that second ends, the minute is complete, the next minute starts, and when that minute is the 59th minute in an hour, a new hour starts.
*That 6pm starts at 6:00:00, not 6:00:01
*Thus, the deadline of 'until 6pm' closes at 6:00:00, not after.
*A complete bid is comprised of a series of steps that ends with the confirmation of the bid as it is placed into the forum and topic, not the submission of the bid with the server.
*Gooner may have submitted his bid before the deadline, but the confirmation of the bid on the forum topic was at 6:00:00, which we have shown is after the deadline closes.

Gooner had ample opportunity to submit and confirm a bid before the deadline passed.

Instead, he chose to cut it extremely fine.

The bid was confirmed on the forum at 6:00:00.

6:00:00 is after the deadline.

Gooner has no right to the player.

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just take sinama pongolle and 5mill and STFU mack :p
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This has probably been one of my favourite parts of this whole game.
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more than ten pages of just this argument :lol:
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:
just making sure, you do realise this isn't real zimbos? it's not called 'fantasy' football for nothing :lol:


yes i do, im just trying to draw comparisons here...after all weve been doing news articles and all that crap.

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yeah, but you're already backing me aren't you!?

Edited by gooner4life_8: 27/10/2010 06:19:59 PM



i have been from the start....dsnt that entitle me to more.:p
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zimbos_05 wrote:
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yeah, but you're already backing me aren't you!?

Edited by gooner4life_8: 27/10/2010 06:19:59 PM



i have been from the start....dsnt that entitle me to more.:p


well, considering you're now my lawyer, i guess i'm gonna have to pay you something... :lol:
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To be honest I don't care which way this goes - Lets just settle it and move on. Once Afro comes back and makes a final decision, you all need to just accept it and move on.
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Solution : Teams in dispute get deducted points for bringing the game into disrepute.
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imnofreak wrote:
To be honest I don't care which way this goes - Lets just settle it and move on. Once Afro comes back and makes a final decision, you all need to just accept it and move on.


I'm taking this all the way to the prime minister!
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As an outsider looking in, pretty much agree with Mack/Doc/Scouse. And being a mod, that makes my opinion more important than any of you.8-[

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