Now that quarterback Aaron Rodgers has propelled the Packers to their fourth Super Bowl title, his onetime Green Bay teammate, Brett Favre, wonders why it took so long.

The iconic former Packer, speaking in a radio interview Tuesday on Atlanta's 790 The Zone, said he always expected his previously untested understudy to become his equal in that most meaningful head-to-head statistic: Super Bowl rings.

"I'm going to be honest, I was not surprised," Favre, who won his only Super Bowl in 1997, said during the interview. "The biggest surprise to me would be that he didn't do it sooner."

Favre said he realized all along how good a quarterback Rodgers could be, and had high expectations for him in this position -- in the limelight, winning his first Super Bowl in January.

But he also intimated that Rodgers' rise into elite status has been aided by a supporting cast that was better than what he when he was in Green Bay.

"He's very bright and he got a chance to watch and see successful teams do it right," Favre said of Rodgers, who is among the league leaders this season with 12 touchdown passes and 1,325 yards passing. "And so he just kind of fell into a good situation. On top of that, he's a good player. I don't think there's any pressure on him now, the talent around him is even better than when I was there."

Favre has said previously that it wasn't his job to mentor his understudies, and had acknowledged some friction with Rodgers, but also that their relationship improved.

"Aaron had a chance ... even though the last couple years it's seemed like he's almost a rookie, he's been around a while," Favre said on the radio interview. "And I'd like to think that he watched, he learned, and then when he got a chance to play, he brought in his ability -- which is obviously very good or they wouldn't have drafted him in the first round."

Rodgers bided his time, then took over the starting job from Favre four years ago -- three years after being drafted with the 24th overall pick in 2005.

After winning over skeptical fans and media opposed to his starting, he is now as revered in Green Bay as the guy who wore No. 4 there.

"I'm really kind of surprised it took him so long," Favre said. "In the early part of last season, it hadn't quite clicked yet, and I didn't know it would. I just kind of figured when they hit their stride, they're going to be hard to beat. And that's what happened."

On Wednesday, 790 The Zone released a statement saying Favre's comments were taken out of context by the national media.

The team is 4-0 and has conceded 97 points. That's the highest total in something like 18 years. They won't be returning to the 'bowl with this kind of defensive coverage that's for sure. Having Nick Collins out isn't helping, but they need a better second CB.

And the O-line hasn't given Rodgers and the RB's nearly enough coverage this game.

Detroit's win today puts them 5-0 for the first time since 1956.

Stafford still didn't do enough for me to win in our fantasy comp. :twisted:
Typical that Schaub would finally pull his finger out after I benched him. #-o

Matt Schaub's been fucking useless this season. Probably symptomatic of their running game being their main threat.

This week was my first loss. I should still be top though.

Which is why I dumped him! He was only supposed to be the backup to Peyton Manning anyway. Shows how fantasy points and success on the field aren't always the same.

I wouldn't say the Texans have been entirely successful on the field

:? That was my point, Stafford led the Lions to a win but only scored 14.86 fantasy points, while the Schaub and the Texans lost but he scored 22.64.

MILWAUKEE -- Cheeseheads around the world might soon have a chance to own a piece of the Super Bowl champs.

The Green Bay Packers, the NFL's only publicly owned team, are moving toward a new stock sale by the end of the year to raise money that would help pay for $130 million in renovations at historic Lambeau Field.

Each share likely would cost about $200 and include voting rights, though the value wouldn't appreciate and there would be no dividends. Stockholders would be able to attend annual meetings at Lambeau, and they'd enjoy such perks as tours of the playing field and locker rooms.

Best of all, they could legitimately call themselves NFL owners.

That last reason seals the deal for Staughton Wade, 29, a lifelong Indianapolis Colts fan.

"I'd absolutely buy a share," said Wade, of Fort Wayne, Ind. "It's a unique thing having the opportunity to buy a share of any NFL team, and the Packers are the only team you can do that with."

The NFL planned to brief the other teams about the proposal at a league meeting Tuesday.

An owners' vote won't be necessary because the proposal meets the same conditions established in 1997, the last time Green Bay sold stock, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. He said the league allows the Packers to sell stock as long as the money is used only for capital costs such as stadium improvements.

The Packers plan to add thousands of seats and other stadium amenities in time for the 2013 season. While other teams often ask taxpayers to help pay for building upgrades, the Packers will foot the entire bill themselves through the stock sale and private financing.

That's one reason Michael Constantine, a 26-year-old Wisconsin native who now lives in Seattle, intends to buy a share or two.

"I feel like the American public has spent enough over the last 20, 30 years to build and renovate stadiums," said Constantine, a staunch Packers fan. "I prefer the sale of stock to raising any sales tax."

The stock sale would be the fifth in Packers' history. There are currently 112,205 shareholders who own a total of 4.75 million shares.

Just as businesses have to enter a quiet period before going public, the Packers say they can't reveal much until regulatory issues are resolved.

"We intend to keep our fans informed of further developments to the greatest extent possible," said Jason Wied, the team's vice president of administration/general counsel.

If the team gets final approval, the stock sale could begin within weeks. Christmas shoppers take note, though: Shares of stock can't be resold, and transfer of shares is generally limited to immediate relatives and heirs.

Nathan Bitzer, 36, already is a shareholder, but he plans to buy a share or two for his daughters, ages 3 and 4. The St. Paul, Minn., resident said being a part-owner is a fun privilege even if the share has no resale value.

"I put 'NFL owner' in my Facebook profile," he said. "It's a pretty unique thing, even though I acknowledge it's pretty useless. I mean, it's not like I'm chumming with (Dallas Cowboys owner) Jerry Jones or (Minnesota Vikings owner) Zygi Wilf."

The Packers have been a publicly owned nonprofit corporation since 1923. The team held its first stock sale that year, followed by sales in 1935 and 1950 that helped keep the franchise afloat while other small-markets teams were going under.

The team's only other stock offering was in 1997. The team president at the time, Bob Harlan, was looking for ways to cover stadium renovation costs. He recalled that other owners balked, worried that the Packers would use the money to compensate their coaches or improve their roster in a way other teams couldn't.

It only was after Pittsburgh Steelers owner Dan Rooney joined commissioner Paul Tagliabue in supporting the idea that the proposal passed. Rooney argued that the Packers deserved unanimous support because they were a vital part of NFL history. The subsequent vote was unanimous.

Some 400,000 shares went on sale for $200 apiece. About 120,000 shares were sold, raising $24 million.

"We tried to come up with a figure that would be affordable to everyone," Harlan said. "We never got one complaint about them being too expensive."

While the Packers organization couldn't say much about a new stock sale, Aiello, the NFL spokesman, said the team plans to sell the shares left over from 1997. The new price hasn't been released but it's expected to be in the same $200 range.

Joel Tchao of Fremont, Calif., plans to buy in. Even though the software engineer is a San Francisco 49ers fan, he said the small-market Packers were a feel-good story in contrast to deep-pocketed Goliaths.

"It's nice to see the lone publicly owned team beat all the other teams that have rich owners, and win the Super Bowl," said Tchao, 37.

Wade, the Colts fan, acknowledged that he also had a slightly devious reason for wanting to be a Packers part-owner -- to needle his Indiana co-workers who are Green Bay fans.

"For them to know a big Colts fan has the ability to influence the direction of their team, that would drive them nuts," he joked.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7084560/green-bay-packers-expected-offer-more-stock-public

Honestly, I've got no points how they work out the QB points. 6 points for each TD is 12 points, less 2 for the interception. So 219 yards got him just 4.86 points, or a point every 45 yards.

Matt Schaub scored 2 TD's, threw 2 interceptions - so 8 points, scored 2 points for a fumble recovery and 416 yards make up the rest of his 12.64 points. So a point every 32.9 yards.

Do they calculate it on YPA?

I am so in if I get the chance to buy Packers stock. I LOL'd at the guy who puts 'NFL Owner' on this FB page.

When you set up the league it would have given you the option to customise the scoring settings. I assume you didn't change them, so it should be this:
1 point per 25 yards passing
Passing Touchdowns = 4 points
Interceptions = -2 points
Rushing & Receiving Yards = 1 point per 10 yards
Rushing & Receiving Touchdowns = 6 points

Don't lie, you'd do it too. I know I would.

I didn't change the scoring settings. Should have made it more than 2 points for a sack though.

Honestly, I think it should be calculated on YPA instead of just yards gained. That way guys like Newton and Hasselbeck who are airing it out for long but ineffective yards aren't as well rewarded as guys who are consistently scoring big passer ratings like Brady, Rodgers and Brees.

Edited by afromanGT: 14/10/2011 09:48:37 PM

To be fair, you're not factoring in a team's running game and QB's aren't the be-all and end all of a team. That said, Orton is probably the worst starting QB in the league. Cam Newton has huge potential and this season is just a precursor of what's to come.