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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
The one and only positive we can take from last night is that our away fan contingent are fucking amazing. Best away fans in the league.


They sung their hearts out, no passion? Go fuck yourself Samir Nasri.

The camera-man did like cutting to the disheartened fans a lot though.

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benelsmore wrote:
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The one and only positive we can take from last night is that our away fan contingent are fucking amazing. Best away fans in the league.


They sung thei hearts out, no passion? Go fuck yourself Samir Nasri.

The cameramam did like cutting to the disheartened fans a lot though.


I honestly couldn't believe them in that 2nd half, they were unbelievable. I can hardly a remember a point where they weren't singing 'We love you Arsenal we do'
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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The one and only positive we can take from last night is that our away fan contingent are fucking amazing. Best away fans in the league.


They sung thei hearts out, no passion? Go fuck yourself Samir Nasri.

The cameramam did like cutting to the disheartened fans a lot though.


I honestly couldn't believe them in that 2nd half, they were unbelievable. I can hardly a remember a point where they weren't singing 'We love you Arsenal we do'


Yeh well credit where credit is due.

The players can't say they had no support yesterday.

Wonder what Eastlands will sound like if City get on the rough end of such a scoreline?
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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The one and only positive we can take from last night is that our away fan contingent are fucking amazing. Best away fans in the league.


They sung thei hearts out, no passion? Go fuck yourself Samir Nasri.

The cameramam did like cutting to the disheartened fans a lot though.


I honestly couldn't believe them in that 2nd half, they were unbelievable. I can hardly a remember a point where they weren't singing 'We love you Arsenal we do'


They were fantastic, and our away support always has been. Just a pity that the fans that only turn up at the Emirates aren't as loud.
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Glad I'm not the only one that noticed this; the gooners who made the away trip were excellent.

Away games always bring out the true gooners, home games are simply too expensive and too hard to get tickets for.

I think we deserved nothing less then that result. Also, on a positive note: Coquelin didn't have a bad debut in my opinion. Certainly impressed me.

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Yeah have to say I did like what I saw of Coquelin. Decent debut from him.

Also credit to RvP who said how excellent the away fans were in his post match interview, and even more credit to him for forcing all of the players to go and salute them.
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KenGooner_GCU wrote:


I think we deserved nothing less then that result. Also, on a positive note: Coquelin didn't have a bad debut in my opinion. Certainly impressed me.


Well he wasn't reprimanded by the commentators for being any worse than any other players.

Did have Rosicky and Ramsay in and around him for support too. Shame you didn't have defenders to support Traore and poor Jenkinson, he really needed it.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Yeah have to say I did like what I saw of Coquelin. Decent debut from him.

Also credit to RvP who said how excellent the away fans were in his post match interview, and even more credit to him for forcing all of the players to go and salute them.


Van Persie is a true professional if ever there was one.

Walcott i was less impressed with, having a go at the kids is no way to encourage them to lift their game.
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benelsmore wrote:
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Yeah have to say I did like what I saw of Coquelin. Decent debut from him.

Also credit to RvP who said how excellent the away fans were in his post match interview, and even more credit to him for forcing all of the players to go and salute them.


Van Persie is a true professional if ever there was one.

Walcott i was less impressed with, having a go at the kids is no way to encourage them to lift their game.


Yeah if anyone is still doubting that Robin isn't the right choice as our captain needs their head checked.

As for Walcott, I didn't really have a problem with it, and Jenskinson gave as good as he got :lol:

Speaking of players talking about the away fans, Jack on twiter last night was nothing short of amazing.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:


As for Walcott, I didn't really have a problem with it, and Jenskinson gave as good as he got :lol:


Walcott is a dick though, he was in no position to have a go at the kids. I hope Jenkinson said "nice tumble in the box before you fucking fairy."

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Its worrisome that of our experienced players 3/11 (Bold) would get into other top 4 teams first 11 and that 4-7/ 11 aren’t good enough to play for a top 4 team even off the bench(red)

Experienced (25+)
Almunia 34, Squillaci 31, Arshavin 30, Sagna 28, Rosický 30, van Persie 28, Chamakh 27, Fabiański 26, Diaby 25, Vermaelen 25, Koscielny 25,

That of our 14 young players (20-24)4/14 would get into other top 4 teams, 2/14 have proven themselves not up to standard 4/14 would make the bench and 4 need to be loaned out to get experience (green)
Young (20-24)
Djourou 24, Gervinho 24, Song 23, Bendtner 23, Mannone 23, Walcott 22, Szczęsny 21 , Gibbs 21, Traoré 21,Coquelin 20, Sunu 20 Ramsey 20,Eastmond 20, Lansbury 20,

Of our teens 1/9 would make a top 4 team, 2-3/9 might make the bench and the rest need loans to get experience
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Wilshere 19, Jenkinson 19, Frimpong 19, Campbell 19, Özyakup 19 Miyaichi 18, Oxlade-Chamberlain 18, Afobe 18, Miguel 18


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Well played by RVP for yelling at Arshavin and rosicky when they walked down the tunnel to get back on the pitch and thank the travelling fans

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Wait I must have missed something, where is this Kaka talk coming from?
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last week it went around that we tried to loan him in, but real want him off their books all together, we can get him for 17m apparently but Arsenal (be it wenger or the board) dont want to pay that kind of money for a guy coming back from injuries who'll be 30 by the end of the season
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It's not the transfer fee for Kaka that's the problem. We'd pay 17m no worries, it's his wages that are the problem.
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proabaly a little from column A and a little from column b
If a VDVesque situation arises I think we might get him (with a big signon fee to offset the weekly wage drop). The commentators joked that when kaka scored for Real he was "bringing out his Arsenal"

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http://www.footballshirtculture.com/fantasy-kit-design/fantasy-kit-design/arsenal-12/13-npower-championship-kit-15256.html#joomimg


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Win. Lol.

Primark's a bit high class though. I'd be going for Le Coq Sportif.
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Rosicky can get the fuck out the team, too many average players who dont give a fuck
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arteta for bendter swap would be alright.
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Video, interviews and highlights (if you can bear it)

They say the darkest hour is just before the dawn. Let’s hope they’re right about that. They have a tendency to say a lot of shit which doesn’t make a lot of sense, unfortunately.

I said yesterday I was fearful of facing United with the squad in the state it was in. I wasn’t expecting to win the game. I thought, with a huge performance, we might be capable of nicking a draw. But I never thought I’d see an Arsenal side managed by Arsene Wenger get pummeled like that. It was painful, embarrassing, humbling and, in a strange, perverse way in the cold light of day, it almost feels necessary.

After this there can be no doubt in anybody’s mind that our squad is in serious need of reinforcement. Not just the addition of one or two players, but we need wholesale changes from front to back and we need them before Wednesday. There are players who were out there yesterday who really shouldn’t have been. From the ones who just aren’t ready for this level of football yet and are being done a disservice by the manager, to the ones who have never been good enough but because of our inaction in the transfer window are all we’ve got, to the ones who should be good enough but have underperformed time and time again during their Arsenal career.

That was a motley bunch of players out there and while it would be easy to go town on some of them, what’s the point? They don’t get up the day of a match and pick themselves to play for Arsenal Football Club. Arsene Wenger picks them. If these were the only players available to him then that’s his fault. Since the end of last season this team has been crying out for the addition of quality and experience and Gervinho aside it has had none. In fact, it has lost more quality and experience than it has gained, and frankly that’s unforgivable.

I’m not inclined to go over the match in any great detail. Maybe if we’d scored the penalty things might have been different. Maybe if Arshavin had scored to make it 3-2 when clean through it might have different. Maybe if Arsene had left on Coquelin who was doing a decent enough job in midfield we might not have been as overrun as we were in the final half an hour. But we didn’t, and he didn’t, and the only thing we can look at is the scoreline.

Defensively our performance was abject. I felt for Carl Jenkinson, a young man being asked to make a huge step up with nobody to help him. Theo Walcott shouting at him just before their goal was hardly the kind of positive encouragement he needed and coming from Theo it must have been hard to take. Johan Djourou’s slow descent continues, alongside him Koscielny was ok but his refusal to put his head where it might get hurt for the opening goal was telling, while if you need any more evidence that we need a left back than the sight of the carefree, gum chewing, smiling-at-the-final-whistle Armand Traore in an Arsenal shirt there’s something wrong with you.

Yet as I said, it’s not their fault they’re out there. Sure, we had players missing yesterday through injury and suspension but all that did is highlight the shallowness of our squad. Arsene said after the game he couldn’t expect Gibbs to be out, Diaby to be out, Vermaelen to be out (amongst others). Really? Two of the most injury prone players at the club and a guy who spent 90% of last season injured and you can’t make contingency plans better than what we had yesterday?

The youth of our side is no excuse either. United’s average age was younger than ours yesterday. What they’ve got though is a decent mix of youth and experience and back-up players who can step up. Remember, there was no Ferdinand or Vidic yesterday. They had Johnny Evans and Phil Jones at centre-half with another centre-half at right back who, time and time again, found time and space down our left hand side.

Our squad was ruthlessly exposed yesterday. A couple of players aside that was a Carling Cup side out there for Arsenal. Fringe players forced into action because throughout this summer both the manager and the board have neglected their duties to the point where Arsenal Football Club found themselves on the wrong end of an 8-2 scoreline at Old Trafford. Remember when we used to go there, compete, battle, scrap and fight with players of similar quality to theirs? They were lambs to the slaughter yesterday. I’ve got sympathy for some of them and I hope the youngsters who tried hard but found it beyond them aren’t too damaged by it. Others, well, it’s hard to feel anything for them at all, as they clearly feel little for the shirt they are privileged to wear.

Ultimately though the buck stops with the manager and the board. The summer has been a huge disappointment and it’s impossible to look at it now and not think we haven’t mismanaged it completely. Deals that should have been done early dragged on and on, yet even with those situations hanging over us we were inactive. As I said yesterday, we all knew Cesc and Nasri were leaving. The sensible thing to do is line up replacements and get them in before, or just after, the sale of the players you know are on the way out.

Instead, we’ve let our captain and best player go and thus far replaced him with nobody. Such is the state of our midfield we’re having to throw in a young guy like Francis Coquelin for a debut at Old Trafford. We sold our flawed but highly experienced left back and failed to replace him. That we’re forced into playing a guy Wenger has wanted rid of for over a year and who he overlooked on Wednesday, preferring to play our first choice right back there, says it all. Reliance on Gibbs was always going to be a gamble. Three games into the season, that gamble has failed.

What must Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain have thought of his Arsenal debut yesterday? Wasn’t it asking far too much of this kid to have any influence at this stage? He comes on, we ship a further 5 goals. That’s going to do him the world of good, at 17 years of age, eh?

And the crux of it is this – even if Cesc and Samir Nasri had stayed at the club, Arsenal needed players to improve a squad that was close last season but ultimately found wanting. That they have left and we haven’t already spent the money their sales generated is just pitiful management. Everybody knew this squad needed to be strengthened, yet we seem to have been content to go through the summer, biding our time, playing games of brinkmanship with other clubs over their players, until we get within sight of the transfer window close when we can play our favourite game of ‘How cheap can we get a player?’

Even now, if we buy players before the deadline, doesn’t it feel like panic shopping rather than part of a well thought out plan to improve the squad this summer? We have three days left when we’ve had all summer. If Arsene had faith that his squad could step up and was strong enough, then he’s got it badly wrong. The evidence of that was the result yesterday. There was no gulf in age, only a gulf in quality and if he can’t see that then it’s bad news indeed. A shift in policy is needed and needed now.

Yet for all the criticism of Arsene, much of it warranted, what of our new owner, Mr Kroenke? Silent Stan, haha. Not. Silence is not good enough any more. Since he took over he looks less and less like the custodian Danny Fiszman hoped he’d be and more like an asset stripper. Arsenal is a club on the verge of making an £80m+ profit in a transfer window when the team needed investment. Where is the leadership? Where is the demand for the highest standards on the pitch? Why has a situation been allowed whereby we went to Old Trafford with the kind of squad we saw yesterday?

Since Kroenke took over he has presided over a footballing collapse and neither he, nor his management team, seem capable, or willing, of doing anything about it. Since the Carling Cup final Arsenal’s league form is: DDDWDDLWLLDDLL

By any standards, let alone the ones set by Arsene Wenger down the years at this football club, that’s atrocious. We hear from Ivan and Arsene that “we’re working very hard” on transfers. If that’s the case then you have to question the people doing that work. If this is the state we’re in after a summer of working very hard then we need some new people to do it, some better people. Or maybe we’re just not working that hard, who knows?

There’s a very real danger that this defeat could precipitate further problems but there’s also the possibility that it’s a wake up call. Overdue and all as it might be, it must tell those at the top, especially the ones who make the footballing decisions at Arsenal, that things need to change. And quickly.

The whole club needs a lift. The first job now is to do that by spending the money we have available to us. If it proves more difficult to sign players after taking an 8-2 pounding then that’s our own fault, it doesn’t make it impossible though. We must add quality throughout the squad. At least one centre-half, a left back is as essential, a couple of midfielders and even if the Korean guy from Monaco arrives we could do with another striker.

I’m not generally one for ‘marquee’ signings, the quality of a player is far more important than the name, but a big player with a big reputation would do far more than lift the spirits of the fans, it would lift the team. It would lift the players, signal some ambition, and improve our squad. That, above all else, is the most important thing right now. Arsene says he’s open to signing players as long as he can find ones better than the ones he has. On the evidence of yesterday that gives him plenty to choose from.

The clock is ticking. We can either go back into our shells, play the ‘we worked hard but couldn’t find super quality’ card, or take yesterday on the chin and come out fighting, using all the resources available to us to make us better. So, Arsene, Ivan, Slovenly Stan, what is to be? Do you continue to oversee the demise of this Arsenal team or do you do something about it? And you realise, of course, that question is rhetorical. Tick-tock, gentlemen. Tick-tock.

Finally for today, a word for the Arsenal fans who went to Old Trafford yesterday, sang their hearts out and showed the real spirit of this football club. You, at least, did us proud. Hats off.



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In a 20-team PL season, no side has ever finished in the top 4 after gaining only a point from their opening 3 games.
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Europa.
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Thankfully for Arsenal fans Armand Traore is having a medical at QPR
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dizzy_red wrote:
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lol


Win. Lol.

Primark's a bit high class though. I'd be going for Le Coq Sportif.


I would have gone for Warrior, personally.
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scouse_roar wrote:
Thankfully for Arsenal fans Armand Traore is having a medical at QPR


What are you on about 'thankfully'. It's fucking ridiculous that he's going there on loan. We aren't even selling him ffs.
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He is absolute rubbish. Didn't even try. Do you want a player like that?
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[size=6]Arsenal thanks 'fantastic' fans for support[/size]

Arsenal Football Club has announced it will be writing to fans who travelled to Old Trafford on Sunday with an offer to cover the cost of a match ticket at a future Barclays Premier League away game.

A Club statement issued today said: "Sunday's result was obviously disappointing for everyone connected with the Club. Our travelling fans were magnificent throughout and we want to recognise their fantastic support. We will be writing to them shortly with the details."
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-thanks


=d> At least the board can do one thing right.
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scouse_roar wrote:
He is absolute rubbish. Didn't even try. Do you want a player like that?


I'd rather have him than no fit left back.
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Sagna playing out of position was twenty times the player he was there.
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